posted September 17, 2016 06:43 PM            

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posted September 17, 2016 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Isn't one of the things 11h rules "wishes fulfilled"?

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posted September 17, 2016 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You could be married to a missionary

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posted September 17, 2016 07:56 PM            

You could have a group you are both involved with.

You and he could travel abroad to do work there etc

I don't think it means anything dire.

What do other people think?

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posted September 18, 2016 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hi,
i think the planet ruler of the 7th counts too.

What is on the cusp of the 11th? What planet is there? And what is the cusp of the 7th?

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My 7th house is ruled by Gemini. My moon in Cancer is also in my 7th house.

posted September 18, 2016 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
I guess the part that I read that I didn't like was falling for people that you can't have. That does seem to be a theme for me

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I never heard that but will be on the look out for it in charts.

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posted September 18, 2016 10:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
My 7th house is ruled by Gemini. My moon in Cancer is also in my 7th house.

For the cusp of the 11th, do you mean planet closest to the start of the 11th house? My Scorpio sun is about a degree away from my 11th house.

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For the 11th house cusp, I meant the sign that BEGINS the 11th house cusp.

posted September 18, 2016 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
For the 11th house cusp, I meant the sign that BEGINS the 11th house cusp.

From what I can deduce,Mercury is in Scorpio?

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posted September 18, 2016 10:21 AM            

Anyways during this decade, he would every once in a while get drunk and message me. Everything has always been respectful. I just have never felt anything towards him, other than friend stuff.

I did finally hang out with him alone about a month or so ago. He messaged me again and I thought to myself, well I should try and see how I feel. I mean, he has been trying for so long. We hung out and I still felt nothing. So that was that. He wanted to hang out again, but I did ignore, which was wrong. So I told him this morning, that I am not interested and I am sorry. Apologized for ignoring him. But it made me cry and I started to wish I could feel something for him. It is just always, the guy that is in to me, I feel nothing towards them. The one that feels nothing towards, I feel in love. Just made me sad.

posted September 18, 2016 10:36 AM            

In other words,you feel most bonded(7th) to people that feel like friends to you(11th). Or your partnerships/romantic couplings(7th) may feel like a friendship(11th).

Mercury in the 11th suggests that you may have many friends.But we also have to take into consideration the more introverted nature of Scorpio.

So we can rephrase this and say that your friendships(11th)though few and far between in actuality(Scorpio),may be intellectually stimulating and very communicative(Mercury).

Or you may bond with people because of shared beliefs(11th)that are profound and deep(Scorpio likes to dig). But they have to be able to articulate those beliefs or ideal(Mercury).

The more profound and insightful they are (Mercury in Scorpio),the more bonded with them you feel(11th house). So the more people there are like that, the wider and more interactive the circle of friendship is likely to be(Mercury).

No when we introduce the 7th here, we can see how friends (11th)can turn to lovers (7th) and vice versa.

Ruler of the 7th house is Mercury. So you desired partner/ close associate is articulate ,well spoken and well versed (Gemini).

But with Mercury in Scorpio, its not just about giving good lip service.But offering insight,depth and the ability to transform self/or others(Scorpio)through the spoken word or ideas(Mercury).

If the 8th house cusp is Cancer and the Moon is in the 7th house(as stated), the partner(7th) may turn you on(8th).

Or there could be a strong attachment(Moon) to the partner(7th)that may go through various up/down(8th)

And since the ruler of the 7th is in the 11th, this may "spill over" to friendships. So friendship(11th) and associations can become your security blanket that you are emotionally bonded to.

Follow where the ruler of the 11th house is to see where the story ends.

posted September 18, 2016 10:49 AM            

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Ruler of the 7th house in the 11th house suggests that relationships(7th) and 11th(friendships) are intertwined.

In other words,you feel most bonded(7th) to people that feel like friends to you(11th). Or your partnerships/romantic couplings(7th) may feel like a friendship(11th).

Mercury in the 11th suggests that you may have many friends.But we also have to take into consideration the more introverted nature of Scorpio.

So we can rephrase this and say that your friendships(11th)though few and far between in actuality(Scorpio),may be intellectually stimulating and very communicative(Mercury).

Or you may bond with people because of shared beliefs(11th)that are profound and deep(Scorpio likes to dig). But they have to be able to articulate those beliefs or ideal(Mercury).

The more profound and insightful they are (Mercury in Scorpio),the more bonded with them you feel(11th house). So the more people there are like that, the wider and more interactive the circle of friendship is likely to be(Mercury).

No when we introduce the 7th here, we can see how friends (11th)can turn to lovers (7th) and vice versa.

Ruler of the 7th house is Mercury. So you desired partner/ close associate is articulate ,well spoken and well versed (Gemini).

But with Mercury in Scorpio, its not just about giving good lip service.But offering insight,depth and the ability to transform self/or others(Scorpio)through the spoken word or ideas(Mercury).

If the 8th house cusp is Cancer and the Moon is in the 7th house(as stated), the partner(7th) may turn you on(8th).

Or there could be a strong attachment(Moon) to the partner(7th)that may go through various up/down(8th)

And since the ruler of the 7th is in the 11th, this may "spill over" to friendships. So friendship(11th) and associations can become your security blanket that you are emotionally bonded to.

Follow where the ruler of the 11th house is to see where the story ends.

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I agree with all of that. I do not have a lot of friends, only a few. I must be able to go deep with them. And a friend as a lover sounds perfect to me.

posted September 18, 2016 11:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
I guess the part that I read that I didn't like was falling for people that you can't have. That does seem to be a theme for me

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(In my opinion), this is not about your 7h ruler in 11h.....this is about having a Cancer Moon in the 7th.

7h Cancer Moons don't actually have a pattern of falling for people we can't have. If we write an actual list of names of people we've been interested in or who have been interested in us, we'll find examples on that list of
A) people we wanted and COULD have, who got into relationships with us--relationships that did or didn't work out for various lengths of time
B) people we wanted but couldn't have
C) people we wanted and had, but then they left us (and we pined for them unhealthily)
D) people who wanted US, but we didn't want them.

This spectrum of relationships is normal for the various moon signs and houses, but we just take it waaaay harder. If our Aries Moon friend gets rejected, she's just mad for a few months....we just hang on to the after-the-fact misery for so much longer.

for me (I have Moon-Saturn, so I'm worse), the only way I can let go of something is if *i* 100% decide that *i* don't want it. A guy not being interested (or not being interested anymore) is an occasion for my 7h Cancer Moon-Saturn to grieve and mourn and agonize, and my 8h Leo Sun to seduce him back......which is so unhealthy, because the two times in my 42 years that a guy was not interested/not interested anymore/done before I was done, the guys were really troubled and not good partners for anyone. the universe was protecting me! But I just couldn't accept it or see it that way--still can't--my Leo Sun wants me to be validated as radiant and important and irresistible, and that 7h Cancer Moon thinks partnerships should last forever and ever.

I'm surprised it said somewhere that 11h is connected to wanting people you can't have---I would think it would be fulfilled wishes and friendship, but also represent a level of detachment in the 11h person, a need for space and freedom in relationships.

Sometimes with my 7h Cancer moon (maybe because I have 7h Cancer Venus square 9h Uranus in Libra, maybe because I have Moon-Saturn), I make MYSELF claustrophobic with my clinging and hanging on.

posted September 18, 2016 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
I agree with all of that. I do not have a lot of friends, only a few. I must be able to go deep with them. And a friend as a lover sounds perfect to me.

So the ruler of the 11th house is Scorpio. Is that Pluto or Mars? Pluto is in my 10th house. Mars is in my 12th.

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I tend to read both and see which applies as Pluto is the "modern" ruler of Scorpio whilst Mars being the traditional.

So if 11th house ruler is Mars and situated in the 12th(as stated),it is harder to make friends or see exactly where you fit in/belong.

Mars in 12th produces some frustration with self-assertion or confidence.And when it rules the social 11th house,you may associate with people who are shy.

There could be difficulty voicing your own opinions-so people don't really get to know who you really are.

If the 11th house ruler is Pluto and situated in the 10th,the friendships you make have a profound effect on your status/image.

So with Pluto in 10th,the status is often seen as someone who is intense, "scary" and likely to not be easily approachable (according to others)

If Pluto is the ruler of the 11th, your friends have powerful egos(no matter how few they may be) and are the type who want to make a lasting impression on others(whether "good" or "bad")

With Pluto in 10th,you may be "guilty by association"(11th house ruler is Pluto). So your status is elevated greatly because of the connections you have with your friends and their repertoire(11th) adds to your image(10th) for good or ill.

Conclusively- if Mars rules,then your position in friendships is challenged and you feel very much "in the background" and wanting to always assert yourself.

posted September 18, 2016 01:55 PM            

I recently decided to go for whole signs house system, and that puts my DC in the 12th. LOL. Even worse. But kinda fits.

posted September 18, 2016 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I have this and I've had terrible luck in love, but I always thought it was because my DC ruler was conjunct Neptune and the South Node, not particularly because of the 11th house. I usually make my lovers my best friends, I never had a friendship turn into romance, but now I am sort of developing feelings for my best friend. :/

I recently decided to go for whole signs house system, and that puts my DC in the 12th. LOL. Even worse. But kinda fits.

I don't consider the 11th a bad house at all.

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posted September 19, 2016 02:37 PM            

Uranus conjunct moon in 7th house in sagittarius and jupiter in aquarius in 11th house.

I am attracted to eccentric unstable men (sort of bad boys who act like a clown). Usually the relationship don't last. I tend to run away from guys who are nice and "stable".

posted September 20, 2016 07:00 AM            

I consider it really important that my lovers, above everything, are able to be my best friend or mate. Most guys i have been with say friendship between the sexes does not exist. I beg to differ, i think it gives a strong base to build on.

Generally, 7th house ruler in the 11th means that you will find your partner(s) in your social circle.

I can safely say that this position has alloweded me to remain in contact and on friendly terms with all of my exes (except for one).