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Faith
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posted September 28, 2016 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point.

If I understand correctly.

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posted September 28, 2016 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
orbs still have an effect. even if its a little north or south of the equator by a bit.

if we take away orbs, say 0 degree orb,

then 12.0 d north only is parrallel to other planets that are 12.0 d north. and contraparellel to other planets that are 12.0 d south. so it only has 2 aspects (of being contraparallel or parellel)

and the same number of aspects is for 0.5 s. which would be parellalel 0.5 d s. and contraparellel 0.5 d N. only 2 aspects.

they are getting the same number of aspects. and the orb since 0.5 d north is such a similar making an angle to the equator as 0.5 d s, its still considered in orb of being parralell, its still felt and resonating that kind of thing. its both parellel and contraparell basically, the angles 0.5 N and 0.5 S

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posted September 28, 2016 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in other words you arent getting gypped and losing any aspects with contra or parallel

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posted September 28, 2016 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand you, but I think astrologers would just stick on the technical dividing line, where if they share the same direction, N or S, they are parallel, and if it's a different direction, they are contraparallel.

Even though their meaning might be more similar to a parallel than contraparallel, if they are that close.

But that's just hypothetical to me. I have no knowledge or experience with analyzing things this way. I really just look for matching numbers and don't care about N or S.

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posted September 28, 2016 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
in other words you arent getting gypped and losing any aspects with contra or parallel

My previous point stands, though.

I think a 0° planet does receive less aspects.

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posted September 28, 2016 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i disagree.

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these 2 angles are no where close to being parralel to one another.

yet

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the 2 lines in the center are closer and in orb of being parellel

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posted September 28, 2016 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay you lost me there.

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posted September 28, 2016 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put yourself in my shoes and imagine conversations with other astrologers. You hear things like...

Example 1) Their moon is parallel my 18°S sun by one degree, their moon is at 19°S.

Then they talk about someone else....

Example 2) Their Jupiter is contraparallel my 18°S sun by one degree, it's at 17°N.

And someone else....

Example 3) Their Mars is parallel my 18°S sun exactly, it's at 18°S.

See, there are three different numbers they can talk about: 17, 18, 19.

But then I say....

Example 1) Their Uranus is parallel my 0°31'S moon, it's at 0°31'S.

Or I could say,

Example 2) Their Venus is contraparallel my moon, it's at 1°31'N.

But there is no third number, there's only 0 and 1.

Because -1 is not a number. I understand what Ceri was saying about how the negative can be used to signify declination. But it's not its own separate number.

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posted September 28, 2016 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12 d N and 12 D S are no where close to being parellel (as 12 D N is parrallel with 12 D N)


But the bottom section, 0.5 N and 0.5 S, are very close to being in orb of parralel

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posted September 28, 2016 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Faith, anyone who has their Uranus at 0.5 N is making 2 strong aspects at once,

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posted September 28, 2016 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
But the bottom section, 0.5 N and 0.5 S, are very close to being in orb of parralel

I get that, but they are not parallel, they are contraparallel. So to count them double as if they are both parallel and contraparallel and say that's how a 0° planet gets compensated is a stretch.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
@Faith, anyone who has their Uranus at 0.5 N is making 2 strong aspects at once,

Well I'm pretty sure you're the only person who would say that.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Look at an inidividual Parrellel aspect which are the 2 dots on the north of the left circle. its one measly aspect.

The ones on the right circle are much more powerful than just the one parralel aspect on the left circle.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well that's great for quality of aspects but not for the quantity, which is what I was complaining about here.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in orb, 0.5 S is still considered parralell of 0.5 N.

IM sure of it. The angle is SIMILAR. let me do another one to show you. hold on. you'll know what im trying to say

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posted September 28, 2016 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Faith that is correct. However, statistical likelihood isn't much help in delineation, since a planet either makes an aspect or it doesn't.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 28, 2016 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we use an orb of 0 all angles north or south of the equator recieve the exact same number of aspects from potential objects north or south.

Nothing is getting aspected more or less.

With an orb of 1 degree, IMO, 0.5 S does extend to 0.5 N. The angle itself is not exact, but as we arent using an exact orb, we are using an orb of 1 degree, and so it is still similar of an angle.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So from my opinion, the angle on the 2nd circle is making 1 exact contra-parrallel aspect, and one parralel aspect with an orb of 1 degree (if the objects were 0.5 N and 0.5 S)

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posted September 28, 2016 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meanwhile the object in the first picture is only recieving 1 parrallel aspect. So when your moon gets aspected tightly, its getting strongerly aspected


It's getting 2 connections at once, rather than the typical 1.

It means when you do find someone (if contraparallel and parrallel planets are really that significant when aspect to one another) who aspects your moon, they may be rare and far between, but you willconnect with them more than others.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes, Faith that is correct.

Thank you, Kannon!

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
However, statistical likelihood isn't much help in delineation, since a planet either makes an aspect or it doesn't.

But it's a help in delineating my life, and how it seems that aspects to my moon in declination are less common than aspects to other planets.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
in orb, 0.5 S is still considered parralell of 0.5 N.

IM sure of it. The angle is SIMILAR. let me do another one to show you. hold on. you'll know what im trying to say


Geometrically parallel.

Not astrologically parallel.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
But it's a help in delineating my life and how it seems that aspects to my moon in declination are less common than aspects to other planets.

Less common to make either a contraparallel or either a parallal aspect individually, but more powerful when either aspect is made, as it will make both when it does occur, yet it happens twice as much for any indiivdual either parralell or contraparrell,but it half as powerful, which ultimately equates to Equal energy if you ran into a lot of people in your life and met

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posted September 28, 2016 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:

It means when you do find someone (if contraparallel and parrallel planets are really that significant when aspect to one another) who aspects your moon, they may be rare and far between, but you willconnect with them more than others.

I've had some crazy experiences with that, which are difficult to articulate, and which end up making me look nutso. Socially I'm still at a net loss.

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posted September 28, 2016 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Geometrically parallel.

Not astrologically parallel.


haha theres no difference. the only where theres a difference if it would be like on the cusp of a sign.

say the upper half of the earth had some type of leo energy.
and the bottom of the equator for example had aquarius. then i'd agree with you.


but you never know. maybe there is something seperate and sacred about being on the same side of the equator, and not.

who knows.

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