posted October 19, 2016 04:35 AM            

They do all have that eyebrow area!

posted October 19, 2016 04:51 AM            

but yeah this exercise sheds a lot of light on what the energy actually is- because each body is actually made up of different elements and particles and it instills a different effect based off of that- so when someone discovered it, they had to give it SOME name, synchronisity may have guided them to make a similar name to what it's energy is in us, but the chances of that happening for all 60 000+ asteroids is pretty slim! so to me i dont really see pallas as stategizing, to me, i disregard all past notions when i look at these. because these are the strongest signifyers of what the planet's energy are, and not from the (often random) names that were given to them.

just because they were given the name "pinnochio" wont change the energy that the elements that planet is made of is making metaphysically on us.

But we still get the planet's common descriptions accurately because the god "saturn" (which the planet was named off of ) is actually just about sowing a lot of crops and having a good harvest. that alone, doesn't say much about what saturn actually is.

But they put a lot more thought and can feel the planets when they look at them a lot more strongly than how fast we named the asteroids and how subtly felt the asteroids are in comparison. so that is why they named most of the planets fairly accurately. synchr

Oh theres also the very possible thing that the whole motivation and understanding and creation of the god archetypes was actually because of the planets inherent existence in our lives. we cant have people in our society that are "nebula"( made up planet name) influenced to create a character off of it, but we do have plenty of saturn people in society and we all feel saturn in ourselves which lead to the motivation of the creation of these gods in the stories.

I'm absolutely sure now that the planets weren't based off of the gods but the gods were created off the energy of the planets that they felt and saw in the world

posted October 19, 2016 05:50 AM            

With Pallas, now I can't unsee that .. I feel like they've all been temporarily pulled from a strategy meeting. That they've got balls in courts somewhere. So, I'm obviously constructing a narrative through the assoc. with Pallas.

I've Pallas conjunct vesta and Neptune (but by 3) .. Feel an affinity to it but not for the strategy so much as pragmatic creativity and patterns. I know it's not associated with Taurus but I do anyway.

I'll reply to the other part in another window

posted October 19, 2016 06:20 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i dont see the strategy thing but also whats interesting to note is you might have pallas opposing the sun, so you can see their energy and what they are using it for, meanwhile my pallas is 140 degrees from my sun, i dont know, it goes for each energy, when someone with sun conj mars sees the mars set they might look at them as brothers, meanwhile maybe someone with mars opposing sun they might see them as enemies, i have no clue cause i only have my own perspective, there is also the chance that we all see them similarily. or some we can get different vibes based off our own charts, more attracted to some than others. i find that the saturn ones really make me feel happy. im not sure why but they seem to live for the best of existence. i have saturn conjuct asc 6 degrees so maybe that is why, i also have saturn making the tightest conjunction in my chart, to mercury 1.6 degrees.

but yeah this exercise sheds a lot of light on what the energy actually is- because each body is actually made up of different elements and particles and it instills a different effect based off of that- so when someone discovered it, they had to give it SOME name, synchronisity may have guided them to make a similar name to what it's energy is in us, but the chances of that happening for all 60 000+ asteroids is pretty slim! so to me i dont really see pallas as stategizing, to me, i disregard all past notions when i look at these. because these are the strongest signifyers of what the planet's energy are, and not from the (often random) names that were given to them.

just because they were given the name "pinnochio" wont change the energy that the elements that planet is made of is making metaphysically on us.

But we still get the planet's common descriptions accurately because the god "saturn" (which the planet was named off of ) is actually just about sowing a lot of crops and having a good harvest. that alone, doesn't say much about what saturn actually is.

But they put a lot more thought and can feel the planets when they look at them a lot more strongly than how fast we named the asteroids and how subtly felt the asteroids are in comparison. so that is why they named most of the planets fairly accurately. synchr

Oh theres also the very possible thing that the whole motivation and understanding and creation of the god archetypes was actually because of the planets inherent existence in our lives. we cant have people in our society that are "nebula"( made up planet name) influenced to create a character off of it, but we do have plenty of saturn people in society and we all feel saturn in ourselves which lead to the motivation of the creation of these gods in the stories.

I'm absolutely sure now that the planets weren't based off of the gods but the gods were created off the energy of the planets that they felt and saw in the world

Hey I made an edit in my previous reply, check that out , XD

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Saturn does seem to have a reassuring presence. (I've Saturn conjunct MC) I also like Venus, Jupiter (my dispositior houses in pullen). I'd like to be around Pluto, can see the magnetism now. And Chiron .. There is a familiarity there I feel safe with. Moon I feel some disjuncture with. Maybe it's possible to diagnose untuned energies in this way like an eye test.

So .. With planets it's like we've given a name to energies we feel / identify and those energies we feel are the planets, firstly? I can see that, what you're saying and it does sound right.

I used to be ambivalent with asteroids - saw them as fun and significant only through interpretation. What I've noticed, and it might be still interpretation, is that they often coincide with superficialities, with a narrative rather than an essential energy.

For example, I've desdamona on my asc I think or somewhere significant. That's attached to the character in Shakespeare thought to be set up as though she's having an affair because of someone having her handkerchief. I've had a relationship similar, in the past, and like the story was suspected because someone had an object that belonged to me. So the deeper energies might be the same from the story to my experience, but it's the details I'm amazed are the same and that similarity bracketed in an asteroid placement.

That's not that great an example but recently was looking at the Nessus myth in relation to Kim kardashians jewellery theft and the *wearing* that makes vulnerable, the misplaced protection seemed to come through. But not the jealousy or obsession most associated with the myth/asteroid

im not sure yet but I'm starting to see asteroids as a lenormand version of tarot, where tarots more embedded in the fabric of reality like planets but tarots still an interpretative frame and lenormand X more literal

Went on a bit if a tangent. Lots to think about. Anyway, I do agree with you, about planetary energies.