posted December 10, 2016 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Cinnamon sky:
I don't believe in absolute truth either.

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But if someone claims to be a professional astrologer and they say, "Tom Petty has a Capricorn ASC," then Tom Petty ought to have a Capricorn ASC, wouldn't you agree?

If he had a Cap ASC, credible astrology sites like astrotheme would have his birth time on record, and explain the source and level of credibility of the birth time.

But they say it is unknown, and you can trust with a reasonable degree of assurance that there is no hint of his birth time within the astrological community.

And it wouldn't be so bad except these mistakes are common in Ami's "articles" and part of a larger pattern of dishonesty.

And yet, warning people of dishonesty is considered bullying, which is a more egregious offense. Who wants to be a bully? Not me.

posted December 10, 2016 11:43 AM            

I dont know if there was bullying, but it was joking, and I was doing what was best for all.

posted December 10, 2016 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Cinnamon sky:
Faith, I understand your passion for accuracy, it makes sense to me what you are saying.
Letting people know about inconsistencies you noticed is one thing, but in my opinion it went further than that, and it seemed to get personal.

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Cinnamon, I understand you are touched by the emotional impact of this unpleasant situation, as all of us are deeply touched. But saying it is "personal" leads to a victimization of the one who speaks the truth. It's as if you are saying some people are profoundly disturbed by an astrological article on physical appearance (ASC) where all the examples are fake, while others don't mind.

Is that so?

Personally, I am shattered by this article, since there has been a painful and embarrassing dispute the other day, one that took several days to be exact, because the OP posted a similar article claiming false astrological facts about 6 famous charts in a row. The OP apologized in the end. I cannot wrap my mind around what is happening here, all I can think of is this article here being an act of bullying, confrontation, defiance and total lack of respect, putting all of us in an impossible position.

Being an astrological forum, the reason we post here is to discuss astrology. Astrology can't happen at all if we don't even check the astrological positions we discuss.

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posted December 10, 2016 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by KilowJay:
To be fair, Ami Ann didn't necessarily claim the named celebrities to HAVE the placements, but (what i interpreted it as) just an example of someone who would 'represent' the placement. I don't think that she actually believed these people had the ascendants. Just examples.

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In astrology, only people who have a placement can "represent" that placement. How absurd can we get here?

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posted December 10, 2016 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by KilowJay:
To be fair, Ami Ann didn't necessarily claim the named celebrities to HAVE the placements, but (what i interpreted it as) just an example of someone who would 'represent' the placement. I don't think that she actually believed these people had the ascendants. Just examples.

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So, you think people read this:

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Farrah Fawcett is classic for a Leo Ascendant.I think she has one, as does Robert Redford, both of whom look like lions.

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And come away thinking they do NOT actually have Leo ASCs?

You read:

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My classic Capricorn Ascendant favorite is the amazing Tom Petty.

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But you do not automatically suppose Tom Petty has a Cap ASC?

Okay, but...

I still think other readers might be curious about what the actual ascendants are, instead of the imaginary, pretend ones.

And if Ami didn't get so hostile when people supplied context to her deficient and overly influential "articles," and if she didn't frame the people who disagree with her in a certain way, there would be zero drama. She would write, people would correct, everyone could draw their own conclusions.

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Lee:

posted December 10, 2016 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:

There are 3 or 4 people on this forum who consistently attack Ami no matter what she says, it's just pure hatred, even when she doesn't address them at all they would chase her in her own threads almost like ganging up on her, and when she tries to defend herself they start pointing fingers......grown a $$ women.
so no point of even discussing that.

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Well, she kisses your a$$ from here to Kingdom Come, so of course, you misrepresent what is happening, to skew public favor towards her.

Fact is, her articles continually suck and continually receive the criticism they deserve, and her playing the victim is just inappropriate. A real astrologer would be able to handle being told contrary opinions or have their wrong chart information corrected, but Ami digs her heels in and claims superiority, ie "I know The Truth, and charts do not lie, and GOD ALMIGHTY is behind this, so you all can go pound sand."

That is her constant approach.

posted December 10, 2016 01:53 PM            

Ami tells people they are ABUSERS, or their loved ones are ABUSERS, merely based on their charts (!!!) and some of you sit there hugging her and saying she is so awesome. When you know full well what a mind-f*ck is going on around here, and how many victims there are!

posted December 10, 2016 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:

There are 3 or 4 people on this forum who consistently attack Ami no matter what she says, it's just pure hatred, even when she doesn't address them at all they would chase her in her own threads almost like ganging up on her, and when she tries to defend herself they start pointing fingers......grown a $$ women.
so no point of even discussing that.

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posted December 10, 2016 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by KilowJay:
Thats what i feel too Orange. I'm not very active on Lindaland and i can see that this matter of Ami being accused of false information is not a new thing. I do however feel that the way the lot are going about this is quite mean. Not to say that you guys are mean, but honestly, i see alot of Ami Ann's articles and they seem quite harmless. Whether you claim she is misleading people with wrong information is all up to the people. If someone is serious about learning astrology(or anything) they will take the time to research whether the claims are true or not. Don't attack her. She stopped replying cause she's hurt. I don't think this was gone about the right way guys. Just my two cents. No need to attack me.

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All I did in the beginning here is correct her.

She started quoting me like a maniac.

It often happens like that.

One tiny correction gets whipped up to a frenzy with others taking the blame.

posted December 10, 2016 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:

There are 3 or 4 people on this forum who consistently attack Ami no matter what she says, it's just pure hatred, even when she doesn't address them at all they would chase her in her own threads almost like ganging up on her, and when she tries to defend herself they start pointing fingers......grown a $$ women.
so no point of even discussing that.

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Thank you, Orange. I hate when newbies see them and they tell the newbies they are trying to "help" and the newbies think"whaaaaa?" Thanks for standing up, Orange. The only way to stop them is when people stand up. I hate to bother Randall who has a lot of his plate xxx

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posted December 10, 2016 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:

There are 3 or 4 people on this forum who consistently attack Ami no matter what she says, it's just pure hatred, even when she doesn't address them at all they would chase her in her own threads almost like ganging up on her, and when she tries to defend herself they start pointing fingers......grown a $$ women.
so no point of even discussing that.

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This is absurd. If someone right now posts a single famous chart which is incorrect, you will be one of the first to point this out, it happened before, it will happen again, and it is quotable, and the right thing to do, even when an honest mistake. What are you doing??? and why?

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posted December 10, 2016 02:06 PM            

This was on another thread
from Faith
You're a Christian. How do you feel when you lie to smear people to cover for yourself?

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posted December 10, 2016 02:07 PM            

It's really distressing to see Ami when she is in a downward spiral and upward spiral at once. Splitting in two.

From a human standpoint and as one whose sister is bipolar, she gets my compassion and a sincere wish that she will seek help.

From a forum standpoint, the issue is constantly crying out for help, like a spoiled child who demands everyone's attention all the time. And it drives people away from a site that would otherwise be a great resource to astrologers.

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posted December 10, 2016 02:07 PM            

As I've been saying for a long time, you are a liar.

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posted December 10, 2016 02:08 PM            

What in God's name is going on here, with you bragging about being the number one "Christian psychic" who defrauds people? Do it where you want, but you have some nerve to do it here, as if it's no man's land, and not a community of astrologers. Don't you make this about Faith or anyone else, you or anyone else. This is about deliberate lies and fraud, not taste. You can't hide them, they will be pointed out every time they happen. Why do you keep talking here, instead of taking a bloody moment of silence with your conscience, Christian psychic, it's beyond disgusting have at least a second of decency!

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posted December 10, 2016 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by KilowJay:
Thats what i feel too Orange. I'm not very active on Lindaland and i can see that this matter of Ami being accused of false information is not a new thing. I do however feel that the way the lot are going about this is quite mean.

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This kind of approach is not harmless, ever.

What do you suggest the readers/posters of an astrological forum do when a poster creates outrage a little while ago by posting fake astrological information, apologizes and then within 24h makes a bigger article, with even more fake astrological info?

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posted December 10, 2016 02:13 PM            

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posted December 10, 2016 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This kind of approach is not harmless, ever.

What do you suggest the readers/posters of an astrological forum do when a poster creates outrage a little while ago by posting fake astrological information, apologizes and then within 24h makes a bigger article, with even more fake astrological info?

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Like i said

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Originally posted by KilowJay:
If someone is serious about learning astrology(or anything) they will take the time to research whether the claims are true or not.

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