posted December 10, 2016 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, I will quote you and we will see what happens.

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posted December 10, 2016 03:10 PM            

Keep harassing me, then. LOL

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posted December 10, 2016 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sorry, Faith

Keep harassing me, then. LOL

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posted December 10, 2016 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, I consider deliberate and repetitive lying as harassment, and your behavior in IA and here as astrological cyberbullying.

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posted December 10, 2016 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Lol

Public forum

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The only people who will really stop them are the LL community.

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posted December 10, 2016 03:14 PM            

PLEASE RANDALL DON'T ALLOW A GROUP OF PEOPLE HARASS SOMEONE ELSE.THIS HAS HAPPENED MANY TIMES ON THIS FORUM AND OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON LOST CONTROL..WHO WOULDN'T???HOW COME YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN YOURSELF CALM WITH SIX OR 7 MAKING FUN OF YOU???

posted December 10, 2016 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Okay, back track.

Ami posts wrong chart facts. LeeLoo and I post corrections. Ami goes on the attack instead of simply apologizing or correcting.

Soren gets playfully involved.

CinnamonSky defends Ami.

Conversation continues with CinnamonSky.

KilowJay and Orange and you come in to defend Ami.

Meanwhile Lee and I are fending off criticism from Ami's defenders, and we are outnumbered. Ceri comes in and her opinion is in line with ours.

How is this "everyone ganging up on one person"?

Maybe you are just construing it that way because it's a cultural meme or something?

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I didn't make the decision of posting to DEFEND Ami. No. I posted because i saw the ugly turn this thread took. I don't know any of you so i have no personal feelings involved.

However, i do read subtext. This is all an objective analysis on my part. From what i've gathered, You and LeeLoo have went on unnecessary rampages where none was needed. You claim that you make it your mission so to speak, to dispel all nonfactual information, but in that 'objective' endeavor(ignoring the alleged many others who spoke out against Ami Ann)it became VERY personal.

As i said, it was not neccessary to make comments such as

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Originally posted by Faith:
I believe she could heal herself but chooses not to.

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One of many, not even the worst, but really? Heal from what exactly, if that is not provoking then i don't know. And then still proceed to say that SHE 'Pounced' and attacked You. That is bullying.

Anyway this is no direct attack on you or LeeLoo, but you guys are plain out being douchebags. If i was completely new here, and saw your 'corrections' to the 'false information' I would not even take you seriously. Not that i do right now honestly. I just don't have the respect due to the way you go about it. Is all. Think about that, if you wish to carry on with this journey of yours to spread FACTUAL information. People will not think highly of you.

Ultimately, be nice to people. In whatever it is that you do. Remember the cliche line, karma is a ***** . You receive what you give. If you spread negativity all you invite is negativity. Lets be positive, life is too precious to be spending it making anothers horrible. Focus on healing and loving yourself and then that will easily translate into loving others(That was a little message for everyone )

posted December 10, 2016 03:21 PM            

Word

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posted December 10, 2016 03:28 PM            

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posted December 10, 2016 03:31 PM            

No one is free from criticism, and if you disagree with an astrological view it is your right to say so. However, it is wrong to bring up personal attacks against someone.

posted December 10, 2016 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What rampage, Kilowjay? The OP apologized 48h ago for posting fake astrology articles. Now she comes and makes a bigger one. The whole thing an obvious lying act of defiance you defend. Enjoy it!

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NO WAY DID I APOLOGIZE FOR WRITING FAKE articles. YOU never stop, Lee Loo!

I mixed up a couple in synastry.

I hate lies. I just hate lies.

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posted December 10, 2016 03:32 PM            

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posted December 10, 2016 03:37 PM            

I'll admit that Faith can come across as being somewhat harsh at times with the things she says. HOWEVER, when Ami Anne posts things like this that can easily be taken as offensive...

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Facing yourself is accepting what the chart says--No whitewash

If you have nessus conj the ASC, you will be an abuser or struggle with wanting to be.

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When people are depressed,Dop, the REASON is being they are in denial

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I don't see any reason as to why she shouldn't be harsh with her. If you just had a baby and had a chart reading done on your baby, and the astrologer told you that the baby was going to grow up as a terrorist, you wouldn't be very calm, would you? I'm sure you wouldn't, especially if they continuously insisted that it was the truth and that you should just accept it and stop "being in denial". Now, I understand that this current argument is not entirely focused on this specific argument, but you have to take it into account in order to understand why this whole thing would break out in the first place.

Of course, her chart placements add up to her tendencies so well, with her making things more needlessly complicated than need be, continuously victimizing herself over unusual claims of "being attacked" and all that air in her chart allowing her to so easily persuade anyone to be on her side, it's no surprise, AT ALL. Libra Ascendant, Cancer Moon, Gemini Stellium, it all fits.

This is not about being attacked, for had she actually had factual articles in the first place, this would not be happening. Even if her articles weren't completely factual, instead of bringing up all of this useless drama to make things chaotic, she could've easily tried to prove her point and tried to back up her claim using logic. Someone with a Gemini stellium is completely capable of that; I've seen it done before. The real question is, why does she choose not to?

I think that claiming that Faith is attacking Ami simply because she pointed out all the fallacies in her article is ridiculous. Like I said, this feud has been going on forever, and I know than an evolved Aquarius Mercury would not senselessly attack someone for no reason at all. I don't hate Ami Anne, I really don't. I just don't understand why she doesn't use logic to prove herself right.

**Had her articles been right, and had she PROVED them to be right with factual evidence, I'm sure that Faith would be sensible enough to see that her initial claim and would've accepted that she made a mistake. Come on now...

posted December 10, 2016 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I'll never understand why people feel the need to shove their 'facts' (ie, religious dogma) down other peoples' throats. Pis*es me off more than anything. It's just astrology, which is based off of confirmation bias and mythology. There is no need to be outraged by someone else's subjective interpretation of celestial bodies.. ¯\_(ツ _/¯

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While I understand where you're coming from, the real issue here is that she used examples that were not coherent with what she claimed them to be. We already proved that Adam Sandler was not confirmed as a Scorpio Ascendant, and when she states that he is, it can be seen as misleading. That's the root of the frustration here.

posted December 10, 2016 03:41 PM            

yes.

posted December 10, 2016 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Okay, I personally think everyone needs to just take a step back and agree to disagree. There is wrong doing on both sides, and I think everyone needs to stop being so defensive and to start being more willing to see things from the other side.

No one is free from criticism, and if you disagree with an astrological view it is your right to say so. However, it is wrong to bring up personal attacks against someone.

I really want to see LL become a more welcoming place, but thathe can't happen if people continue to be be so abrasive. Please, everyone take a minute to cool off because I know this is a deeper issue that goes back years, but it should be dealt with somewhere else (perhaps in a different forum).

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posted December 10, 2016 03:52 PM            

For me at least, I have no problem with them disproving her claims and correcting her, but its more about the way its done. One can get their point across without resorting to slandering and, because i cant find a better word right now, attacking someone. There is no need. Simply get your point across and if you feel the person is not listening then ignore them( I know you or someones probably going to say, but we cant let her decieve the readers etc. it clearly isn't working right, let it go).

In the end Selenite is right.

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Originally posted by Selenite:
There is no need to be outraged by someone else's subjective interpretation of celestial bodies.. ¯\_(ツ _/¯

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posted December 10, 2016 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Cinnamon sky:
Faith, I understand your passion for accuracy, it makes sense to me what you are saying.
Letting people know about inconsistencies you noticed is one thing, but in my opinion it went further than that, and it seemed to get personal.

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I agree. for some days i have followed these discussions and it just looks like a gang of women are chasing ami inaccuracies to "protect" the astrology community. to be honest, when people go to astrologers, most of the time, they use it as an alternative opinion. I never heard anybody planing for a wedding or a funeral because their astrologer told them so.. astrologers are perceived by the non-astrologers as fortune tellers.. at least among the people i know...and the ones who knows astrology knows how to check for themselves.. so what is the big deal? My perception of Ami style is an intuitive person who uses her intuition as main tool and use astrology as a support.. (in my view).. if that helps people or not, who can tell? so why chase Ami.. just leave her doing what she is doing. if he is so bad as you said, worth of mouth will spread among her clients.. so what is the problem.. really? to whom are these critics protecting? the only thing I see protected here is BIG EGOs nothing else!!!!

posted December 10, 2016 03:55 PM            

Neither of the celebrities mentioned in the OP have those placements.

In the article 48h ago, the Newmans, the Burtons and the Windsors don't have those placements.

Another poster commented on that, and the OP ignored her comments and went about offering more astrological advice. Didn't correct the OP either. This is why I thumbed down her article, without comment, after which she chose to attack me instead of addressing the issue in any way. Eventually she apologized for posting fake astro info, asked for us to move on. No one else commented after she said that. But she moved on here and made a bigger fake article. This is defiance, bullying, betrayal.

Honest mistakes are not a problem, we correct each other all the time, at least in IA where I mostly am. This is something else.

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