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Topic: Chiron through the houses (for Dopgang)
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 6379 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 10:27 AM
Ceridwen is probably THE most peaceful, objective, open-minded member I've seen on LL (sorry, not trying to embarrass or kiss up to anyone, it's just my opinion), so... If she's got something to say about someone, even if it's tongue in cheek, I would consider thinking about why that is.That's about all anyone is going to hear from me on all of this.  Oh. And it gave me a good laugh.  IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6479 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 10:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I will tell you guys something, honestly. I don't really worry when people treat me badly cuz I know they will get karma. I have seen so many cases of people thinking they hurt me and got one over on me and they did hurt me, but I have seen bad things happen to them. This is MINI KARMA 
Thanks for wishing me bad stuff. Actually and honestly, i swear on my sisters grave, i never wished you anything bad (despite in some angry impulsive moments when i was talking to myself but i don't mean it) but that you would STOP lying and being NO racist and NO Islamophob. Especially considering vulnerable clients who come to you for warmth and compassion. Even now, at this moment i don't wish anything but what i just said.  You have no idea what parody is. Okay, the following is parody:
I know I have done evil to Ami Ann, and I fear the wrath of the Lord will come upon me. 1. I know i have done evil to Ami Ann, a wonderful, alway HONEST person, that never lies: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236910-8.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203773.html (she does not have a fire singleton in either of these charts) etc. etc. (space wouldn't be sufficient to post Ami's many placements that shift every now and then) 2. I know i have done evil to Ami Ann, a wonderful, always COMPASSIONATE person, especially toward the most vulnerable fellow human beings, like a drowned toddler: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/233420-4.html -> not a word about the little boy but she always posts angels, hearts, anything. okay, she could have "forgotten" but let's see point 3 (also, some people who already left said that she had been really cruel to them; also i once talked to her via facebook where she said that she hates some LLers and really wishes them bad stuff; so i am not buying that she forgot any sympathy expressions)
3. I know i have done evil to Ami Ann, a wonderful, TOLERANT, and Christian fellow human being, who only wants peace and understanding among the people and who is by NO means a religious fanatic, let out an islamophob (she has banned from 2 subforums because of this): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/001676-14.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/231214-7.html etc. etc. i could find more. Also, look at her homepage + facebook
4. I know i have done evil to Ami Ann, a wonderful, always SOFT and HELPING, person, that helps with her astrology, shows you a way out, only uses explored tools http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/006265.html see post 4. Poor Astrokeen had been told her son would become an abuser- never happened and all because of Nessus. Later Ami stated it didn't happen because the 2 of them didn't get married. Yeah, Nessus needs a piece of paper 
Ami, again, i personally, really don't wish you anything bad. I am just afraid of the clients you gonna chock, i am upset by your lies and your racist attitude. That's all
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 6379 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:06 AM
Wtf, there's like an entire page missing here. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5670 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:07 AM
And now the posts have started disappearing, LOL! it's all happening.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20329 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:07 AM
I created a part II thread if anyone wants to continue: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236928.html IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69807 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 11, 2016 11:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: And now the posts have started disappearing, LOL! it's all happening.
This is about the 4th time this has happened. When people attack me, the pages glitch LOLOL
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5670 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:10 AM
^ Must be MINI KARMAIP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69807 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 11, 2016 11:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: ^ Must be MINI KARMA
Exactly :laughing 
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5670 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:20 AM
Karma's a biatch they say, never expected her to delete posts though, they disappeared right before my eyes POOFIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30073 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:26 AM
 Was it a parody? Was it not?
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Thanks Violet. And thank you Enneline, Leeloo and Faith.
And thank you, Dop Gang.
And thank you, too, Orange and Ami. That was THE most hilarious exchange I ever read. (as far as I have read it at least) Karma, Ami? But wait, you don`t believe in Karma. You`ve said yourself like a dozen times. This thread (my first post at least) just shows the simplicity of astrology. Yes, you can do it like that, and you will somehow be right, but never in any kind of individual sense.
It`s .... vague and unspecific. it has no real interpretative value on its own without consideration of the aspects to Chiron for example. But I found the reactions interesting - did not expect so many, so thank you guys, for keeping that silly thread (it was never more than that) at the top of the page. 
Just in case anyone wonders what I was doing by not replying, well I was just learning about the responses to the thread cause I spent a wonderful afternoon with my parents, my brothers, my aunt, the girlfriend of my brother and their wonderful cute ray of sunshine, having an extended pre-christmas lunch, and I had been baking bananabread (first time for me), and I just had the best afternoon!  How was yours?
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30073 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: Wtf, there's like an entire page missing here.
Don`t worry. I haven`t read all the posts anyway and don`t intend to. Somehow I doubt there will be a serious loss of meaningful information in the missing pages. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:38 AM
but how about the sun through the houses, surely there are specifics there. even though chiron is 1/57 millionth of saturn's mass and can fall twice as far away as it (1.5x as far average) i think that would be the reason nothing would be discernable from what house it fell in. The sun though. there would be noticeable traits. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 6379 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Don`t worry. I haven`t read all the posts anyway and don`t intend to. Somehow I doubt there will be a serious loss of meaningful information in the missing pages.
Good point.  Right. Back to my life, then!  Lots of love to everyone, I'll have to pry myself away from sneaking in to see how these threads are progressing, it messes up my energy.  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30073 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: The sun though. there would be noticeable traits.
Yes, but you would still have to take the aspects to Sun into consideration, before coming to a conclusion about how the Sun-position really manifests. NOt every Sun in 1st house will be completely the same, even though there may be some similiarities of course. But then again I share a similiarity with roughly a half of humanity, too. I am female, so that is a characteristics, but it`s just a tiny part of the equation of my personality.
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soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:44 AM
Well in my eyes, most second house suns would express their will power of collecting material things. All 1st house sun's would be more energetic and self concious (isn't that a trait?)Etc. It's noticeable for the sun because it's so powerful. imo IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:48 AM
my 6th house sun man i know has always been a server. always focused on "completing tasks" like fixing up houses, fixing up his car, gaining money and focused on the material. my 4th house dad has always been a home body. my 8th house friend was incredibly deep into "invisible energy connections" and as you might know i'm a first house sun and i can be pretty silly, IRL as well. These things are pretty powerful IMO. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:49 AM
And I found out Ami is a 6th house Sun-- Her main expression planet is Saturn. It's her outlet planet, hence all the responsibility and focus she puts into this land. Neptune is there as well but the main outlet is saturn as it has 80x the pull (against the sun, moon, venus, jupiter, it provides a much stronger pull against those larger ones) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30073 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:52 AM
I don`t doubt that Sun-position will play a role, a major role, but its expression will be filtered through the more specifics of its aspects/ dispositors etc. So Soren, tell me, what do you think which house is my Sun in? IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:53 AM
I always thought you seemed a fair bit water. I know you told me it's in the first, but i checked and it's also in the 12th (which is what you reminded me of) in the equator house system, which might be the most powerful one. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30073 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 11:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: Well in my eyes, most second house suns would express their will power of collecting material things.
I disagree. Some might do that, but actually the 2nd house most basic trait is "values", that CAN be material things, but also your own personal value, how you value yourself, even how valuable you feel inside your body etc.
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soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:55 AM
Yes well whatever the description is I just think they would likely come off much much different than a first houser. --and simply because of just the house placement IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:59 AM
If you want to see that she's likely a certain rising of one that has the least differences to all 4/4 look here http://gifmaker.cc/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2016121021zvuncBAgVoTQu3C HHvW22s&file=output_b87SJv.gif that one would be the 3rd row down. it's cap risers IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30073 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2016 12:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: I always thought you seemed a fair bit water. I
Yes itīs interesting, isn`t it? I donīt really have a lot of water in my chart (though I always score in test highest in water). Personally I think it might have to do with Neptune on the ASC as well as the dispositor of every personal planet in a water sign. I have stated to pay a lot attention to the equatorial system as well. Interestingly in the beginning of my astrological studies I would have sworn I was a 12th houseer, and then I wasn`t. lol Well I see both now in different contexts, but yes the equatorial housesystem is VERY interesting, and I am keeping it in my sights. I have Venus on the equatorial ASC interestingly enough. Whatever that really means. lol
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 6006 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted December 11, 2016 12:01 PM
The responses to your thread were indeed interesting! People loved it and congratulated you how accurate it was. Ooooh well Guess it all dependents on who writes it.IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 12:03 PM
When my sun was still progressed in the first, I was not spiritual at all. When it merely only shifted into the 12th in the equator system (still in first in placidus+equal houses) i became much m uch more spiritual, quiet, depressed, thinking interesting thoughts, and had a major damper on my personality. Just the equator house system did that, so you have that natally. IP: Logged |