posted December 11, 2016 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i just remember the time she said me and spongebob were trolls and we are not welcome and have no place on the forum.

but i didnt really care. but i like most of the people who get banned

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Not every person who gets banned, gets banned because of me.

posted December 11, 2016 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I know. I have an appointment in a few minutes, AE and I have a great article to write later. Love you xoxoxo

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Good Luck. It's gym time in my region's time zone

posted December 11, 2016 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh I take care, that is the reason I finally spoke up after 6 years of the same stuff all over again.

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posted December 11, 2016 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
As i said: no (i too have mars in gemini, i must repeat myself )

You even stand up for people getting bullied; you used to stand up for Ami as well http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212701.html

Post 8 i think

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posted December 11, 2016 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I deeply regret that.

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I can imagine

But see, you are by no means a bully- you would stand up for those in need.

I do know that it must look from the outside far differently than it is actually; for that reason i have created 2 very long posts - see the OP - to show people our side....

posted December 11, 2016 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i just remember the time she said me and spongebob were trolls and we are not welcome and have no place on the forum.

but i didnt really care. but i like most of the people who get banned

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Spongebob was banned because Randall had asked her to not continously insult people, otherwise he would ban her. She acted out and continued to insult him, resulting in her ban.

I haven't seen Faith state that anyone should be banned in what I've experienced on here. She even stated that LBC shouldn't have been banned, even though LBC kept telling everyone to never speak to her again.

posted December 11, 2016 01:42 PM            

I had my reasons and maybe some people will think I shouldn't get involved.

If anyone wants to judge my comment, here's the context:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/006265-3.html

posted December 11, 2016 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I've fought with people before.

Hi Lonake, if you are reading.

But they fought back and often provoked. That is not bullying.

I have called people "trolls" before Randall decided to ban these people for his own reasons. They were going around making very hurtful comments to others. I'm not going to sit there watching that happen, without telling them to knock it off. I do have that right.

Really who else here believes I am a bully?

Tell me.

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posted December 11, 2016 01:48 PM            

Soren, sorry for mistaking you for a troll, if I did. I actually don't remember saying that out loud, but I do remember thinking that.

posted December 11, 2016 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
We've disagreed on a few things, but never have I thought you were a bully. You have never been rude to me, and in fact you've helped me quite a bit on other threads. I actually have a lot of respect for you.

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Thanks and likewise.

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
I remember when I was a newbie I posted an article about race and that got a lot of pushback, but I think it's important as a learner of astrology and as a good person to be open to hearing criticism and to be able to change behavior/words.

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Yes, we disagreed but kept it cordial, would you agree?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/233407.html

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Defensiveness gets you nowhere if you are trying to grow as a person. Until the defensiveness stops with Ami, and she decides to listen, there will be no end to the conflict.

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I don't feel defensive towards Ami.

Nothing she can say against me personally bothers me in the slightest bit.

Well it's BAIT, and sometimes for the sake of forum clarity, I respond to it, but I think it's clear, if you look at my reactions, she is not triggering my defenses.

She calls me a coward. I ask, "In what way?"

posted December 11, 2016 02:01 PM            

In all seriousness, I have never experienced Faith as being anything but lovely and kind, not just to me but to others. She doesn't hesitate to tell the truth or call people out on their you-know-what. But, she is often coming to people's defense when she does. Clearly, making this thread just to defend another poster, she cares a lot about others.

Meanwhile, I have witnessed enough of Ami's behavior to treat her with a grain of salt. No offense to anyone but I'm quite wary of people who really profess to be so full of Christian-fueled love. I've known very religious people who used it as a cover to be covertly nasty, judgmental, or bullying. Not saying all religious people are like this, of course. But, I tend to know that "type" when I see it. I've seen Ami in disagreements with others before and I have noted a lot of passive-aggression, gaslighting, and manipulation on her part. The last thread in question is only one example of that. I remember a big blow-out that happened last year over her highly biased opinion on Libra Moons (which was promoted as some sort of "educational article" when it was really just her dumping on Libra Moons) and how she consistently only fueled the fire of the argument with her baiting, victim-playing, mocking, and refusal to be wrong.

Basically, after that whole incident, I learned to engage with her very little and not take her seriously. People like or dislike whoever they want on here and that's fine. But, I'm just saying, as someone who's been on this board, on and off, for almost five years, I know that Ami attracts these kinds of situations quite regularly and there are certainly reasons why.

posted December 11, 2016 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Whoa, all this drama and I don't even have my popcorn.

In all seriousness, I have never experienced Faith as being anything but lovely and kind, not just to me but to others. She doesn't hesitate to tell the truth or call people out on their you-know-what. But, she is often coming to people's defense when she does. Clearly, making this thread just to defend another poster, she cares a lot about others.

Meanwhile, I have witnessed enough of Ami's behavior to treat her with a grain of salt. No offense to anyone but I'm quite wary of people who really profess to be so full of Christian-fueled love. I've known very religious people who used it as a cover to be covertly nasty, judgmental, or bullying. Not saying all religious people are like this, of course. But, I tend to know that "type" when I see it. I've seen Ami in disagreements with others before and I have noted a lot of passive-aggression, gaslighting, and manipulation on her part. The last thread in question is only one example of that. I remember a big blow-out that happened last year over her highly biased opinion on Libra Moons (which was promoted as some sort of "educational article" when it was really just her dumping on Libra Moons) and how she consistently only fueled the fire of the argument with her baiting, victim-playing, mocking, and refusal to be wrong.

Basically, after that whole incident, I learned to engage with her very little and not take her seriously. People like or dislike whoever they want on here and that's fine. But, I'm just saying, as someone who's been on this board, on and off, for almost five years, I know that Ami attracts these kinds of situations quite regularly and there are certainly reasons why.

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posted December 11, 2016 02:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Much appreciated, the89freespirit!

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You're welcome! I feel like I post a lot on here more so as an observer and don't actually have a particular bond with many people. But, you are one of the few people here that I feel like I have always connected with. Maybe it's us both having Saturn in the 12th.

But, the truth is that many people are not very perceptive and only see the superficial version of a person. With all my Scorpio energy, I'm a very good judge of character and basically know who's full of it and who's not. I'm not going to shout it from the rooftop or try to overly convince someone of a person's character. But, I know what it's like to be in a situation where some "saint" is actually acting with a lot of negative energy and not everyone can see it.

So, I like to stand up for people in situations like that.

posted December 11, 2016 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
You're welcome! I feel like I post a lot on here more so as an observer and don't actually have a particular bond with many people. But, you are one of the few people here that I feel like I have always connected with. Maybe it's us both having Saturn in the 12th.

But, the truth is that many people are not very perceptive and only see the superficial version of a person. With all my Scorpio energy, I'm a very good judge of character and basically know who's full of it and who's not. I'm not going to shout it from the rooftop or try to overly convince someone of a person's character. But, I know what it's like to be in a situation where some "saint" is actually acting with a lot of negative energy and not everyone can see it.

So, I like to stand up for people in situations like that.

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It's true, and often frustrating. Things about a person that are obvious to me are somehow invisible to others and it's frustrating. Someone could be orchestrating a game this whole time and nobody would know.

posted December 11, 2016 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't feel defensive towards Ami.

Nothing she can say against me personally bothers me in the slightest bit.

Well it's BAIT, and sometimes for the sake of forum clarity, I respond to it, but I think it's clear, if you look at my reactions, she is not triggering my defenses.

She calls me a coward. I ask, "In what way?"

She calls me a bully. I say, "Who else thinks so?"

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I would agree we were always respectful in our disagreements. I'm not saying you are being defensive, I'm saying Ami is. You have a lot of good points that you brought up to her but she responds with defensiveness, and I think she needs to listen more. I know her cancer mars can put up that shell, but it's important to take criticism. I think maybe if people brought it up to her in a lighter manner she might be willing to listen. I don't think she means to be so abrasive, but that just happens with cancer mars when they feel attacked the put their guard up.