posted December 13, 2016 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I am looking now to see the integrity and accuracy LL wants.

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posted December 13, 2016 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Voix, I can't express enough how I appreciate you making this thread, the help you're providing and your love for LL, and the kindness, wisdom and patience you show in this thread

I support/propose (for astrology forums)

- accuracy and due-diligence (mentioned in some kind of LL disclaimer for astrology, in general)

- chart data sourcing for articles

- explanation/backup research of educational articles upon request

- anyone can correct errors

- identified errors to be corrected before the conversation continues, with an apology

- moderator intervention if the above fails, with thread closing (+ disclaimer) if errors not corrected

- Violets's idea with disclaimer + backup research presentation for professional astrologers (promoting a professional site). Here I need Violets's help Or other formula for professional accountability.

Not necessarily with these words, but that's the idea.

I am looking now to see the integrity and accuracy LL wants.

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posted December 13, 2016 05:41 PM            

I hope Randall pops in and gives some feedback.

I feel like I could say a lot, but want to wait it out as you guys continue. You're doing well.

Faith, I agree with Voix_de_la_Mer that your contribution is worthwhile. I appreciate that maybe you wanted to stop posting to avoid more bad blood in a good discussion, but I hope you will continue following and give input at some point.

posted December 13, 2016 05:58 PM            

Also, I have confidence you guys can work it out. Starting tomorrow I'm taking a 3 month writer's vacation from all astrology work and activities. So I won't be in this forum for at least that long.

Voix, thanks for your leadership on this. You're stellar

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posted December 13, 2016 07:30 PM            

My Leo Asc is blushing and fluffing a little, lol.

I've been thinking on it, but Mercury loitering around has me a bit foggy. But I think many of us are agreeing on some of the same basic principles.

posted December 14, 2016 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Just very good ideas here, and good comradery from a lot of people.

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Great Job Everyone!

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posted December 14, 2016 06:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Starting tomorrow I'm taking a 3 month writer's vacation from all astrology work and activities. So I won't be in this forum for at least that long.

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Enjoy your time Kannon. And enjoy your successes even if you aren't there to witness them. You can celebrate your intention. Thank you for everything. You have helped me change my life. I hope others will continue to benefit from your healing generosity the way I have.

posted December 14, 2016 09:05 AM            

Enjoy your vacation, Kannon.

My thoughts, building off the very good ideas that others came up with here:

- I would be shocked if Randall decided to get involved or help implement anything we are saying here.

- What we COULD do is create our own "sticky," a thread that states what we expect from articles that claim to be written by professionals. We can keep that bumped.

- That way if anyone is using LL partially as a marketing platform and a means of promoting their own "brand" of astrology and their own business, they will know they are being held to higher standards by the community.

- And then, if that person makes an error, and they are corrected in keeping with how they were told they would be corrected (as stated on the "sticky" thread), they cannot claim that they are being witch-hunted, bullied, or mistreated. Well of course they can claim it, but others will see whether or not the correcting party was adhering to community-defined standards.

So that's my thinking: we craft the community standards and behave in line with them. Everyone accountable for ourselves. Then everyone can see more clearly what is going on with the corrections.

- Of course, I suspect another form of manipulation will spring up that works around whatever solution we have come up with. But, that's for another day. One thing at a time.

posted December 14, 2016 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

My thoughts, building off the very good ideas that others came up with here:

- I would be shocked if Randall decided to get involved or help implement anything we are saying here.

- What we COULD do is create our own "sticky," a thread that states what we expect from articles that claim to be written by professionals. We can keep that bumped.

- That way if anyone is using LL partially as a marketing platform and a means of promoting their own "brand" of astrology and their own business, they will know they are being held to higher standards by the community.

- And then, if that person makes an error, and they are corrected in keeping with how they were told they would be corrected (as stated on the "sticky" thread), they cannot claim that they are being witch-hunted, bullied, or mistreated. Well of course they can claim it, but others will see whether or not the correcting party was adhering to community-defined standards.

So that's my thinking: we craft the community standards and behave in line with them. Everyone accountable for ourselves. Then everyone can see more clearly what is going on with the corrections.

- Of course, I suspect another form of manipulation will spring up that works around whatever solution we have come up with. But, that's for another day. One thing at a time.

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I don't think that's a bad idea at all. Obviously, people will want to know why we haven't taken it up with Randall, and we'll have to either explain that repeatedly or add it to our "sticky".

I really do think this is a reasonable solution, assuming Randall isn't going to respond to the basic concerns here (if he does, well that's fantastic).

I wish there were a way to "sign" the sticky, as a way of showing support for it. Without adding a million pages to it, lol.

posted December 14, 2016 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
there's no need to implement anything.

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Okay, maybe not in your opinion.

posted December 14, 2016 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Thanks, and good morning, Violets. We'll see if anyone else likes the idea.

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Good morning.

posted December 14, 2016 11:26 AM            

Second, saying one person's discussions are more important than any others' discussions would be the antithesis to what Linda stood for (and what Lindaland stands for), which is free expression. For example, some here may think Vedic is not worthy of serious discussion, and so on and so on. If you don't like anyone's brand of Astrology, simply avoid those threads. I'm not sure why people want to pass so many restrictions on free expression, but that would definitely destroy LL. The only restriction on free expression at LL (aside from the usual no spam and no porn rules) is to avoid personal insults. I personally don't agree with a lot of stuff posted on LL. But I agree on everyone's right to express what they believe.

posted December 14, 2016 11:35 AM            

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Second, saying one person's discussions are more important than any others' discussions would be the antithesis to what Linda stood for

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posted December 14, 2016 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well since our discussions are just as important as anyone's, I assume we can continue with any plans to address content in a way we find agreeable.

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posted December 14, 2016 11:40 AM            

Randall: This topic is too advanced for this section. Moving to advanced astrology!