posted December 13, 2016 03:40 PM            

On this subject, one can, only, really understand one’s own deepest feelings. However, I do have a Master’s Degree in Counseling and have been doing Astrology charts, professionally, for five, or so, years. People tell me their deepest secrets. The chart holds one’s deepest secrets. I suppose we all would be healthy if we could SHARE your deepest secrets and not feel ashamed of them. Probably the adage that we are only as sick as the secrets we keep is true.

I am not an authority on mental health because I struggle to overcome childhood abuse. I have messages that tell me that I can never do things well enough. I have messages that tell me that I am inherently “bad”. This is shame. One can counter it in the mind, but the problem is not in the mind. The problem is in the heart. We live in our hearts. Hence, we can and should use Astrology to uncover what is in our hearts. In doing so, we can face our demons, so to speak.

I don’t know if everyone struggles from feelings of low self worth. I don’t know if it is on a continuum,which I expect is the case. I am writing from my own perspective, first and foremost, as we all do, really. So, please read this article with that caveat and I hope you find something of value within.

1. Dejanira(157) Conjunct the Moon
I use the Moon a lot when I discuss emotions because the Moon is our deepest heart, which is the seat of our emotions. When it is all said and done, we ARE our Moon. I believe this. I am a Gemini Sun, Mercury and Venus in the Ninth House. You may see someone with a crazy sense of humor and a friendly manner, but I am truly a very sensitive and kind soul, at the core. I hate to hurt the feelings of others. I cry very easily, at happy or sad things. I am very emotional. I say this to say that when we deal with self worth, nothing cuts us as much as something very difficult conjunct our Moon. Dejanira conjunct the Moon is the single most difficult aspect in the entire chart, in my opinion. I have seen abuse in all cases with the close conjunction and, usually, sexual abuse. Hence, if one has this aspect, one needs to know that it is NOT one’s fault. One came into the world with a kind of deep wound that one should try to accept, in the manner of one’s having a heart valve issue or something physical of that nature. We seem to have much more empathy for ourselves when we have physical issues, rather than emotional. We blame ourselves for emotional issues. I do and I doubt I am alone.

2. Nemesis(128) Conjunct the Moon
I see this as betrayal by the mother, but it may, also, be a turning against the self. I need your experiences on this one. I have it and we can discuss it together. I suspect it may make one an enemy of oneself.

3 Venus Conjunct Saturn
This aspect seems to make for a person who feels she has to be too “perfect” before she can be loved. It seems as if the person is, always, kind of remodeling her house, so it can be acceptable for visiting guests. However, it seems as if the floor is never clean enough or the baseboards never sufficiently dusted. Hence, she never invites guests. Remember that close conjunctions intensify these traits and wider ones mitigate them.

4 Moon Conjunct Saturn

Saturn in conjunction and in hard aspect( opposition and square) to the Moon can make one very self critical. Saturn is very much of a mixed blessing. Eating raw broccoli is a discipline. I love broccoli and it is good for you.This may be broccoli in trine. However, if I had to have broccoli three times a day, I would feel very oppressed( and depressed) Strange analogy, maybe. However, what is excellent in small measured doses can be life defeating and vitiating in larger ones. I think most people have experienced their own voice telling them that they cannot do anything right: that they are a failure. I have and I struggle with this. The inner critical voice is a major factor in low self esteem. It may be the primary factor.

5. Blewit(22927)
I have this lovely fellow conjunct my Moon. I have, recently, started using it, so have not seen it play out very much in charts. However, one of my clients tells me that it does show what one would expect from the name– mistakes/ failures/ blowing it. The Moon represents the mother. I had a very hard relationship with my mother. It would be hard to have much worse, although I know people have. This asteroid would show the relationship with my mother, but does it show my personal feelings of failing. It may! I would love for you to put this in your charts and give me your opinions!

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posted December 13, 2016 03:44 PM            

I think 12th House planets would be one, especially Mar, which needs to assert itself and the Moon, too.

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posted December 13, 2016 04:53 PM            

I checked the asteroid as you suggested.
It trines ASC (1'), squares Moon (1'), and opposes Neptune (1').

But it is spelled "Blewett" and if my memory serves me correctly, I think it is the name of a student who won a science prize.
As there is no mythology attached, and it is literally named after someone's surname I would be hesitant to use this in reading charts TBH.

If it was actually spelled Blew-it, then I may be swayed, but it's too much of a stretch for me as "Blewett".

posted December 13, 2016 06:56 PM            

One of my clients said it worked amazingly well as a "blew it" I take things and try them and then try to see patterns and make theories.

She used it in all sorts of charts--natal, synastry, comp and said it was very accurate.

The Venus sq saturn--how close it is?

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posted December 13, 2016 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am writing from my own perspective, first and foremost, as we all do, really. So, please read this article with that caveat and I hope you find something of value within.

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posted December 13, 2016 07:44 PM            

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posted December 13, 2016 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

5. Blewit(22927)
I have this lovely fellow conjunct my Moon. I have, recently, started using it, so have not seen it play out very much in charts. However, one of my clients tells me that it does show what one would expect from the name– mistakes/ failures/ blowing it. The Moon represents the mother. I had a very hard relationship with my mother. It would be hard to have much worse, although I know people have. This asteroid would show the relationship with my mother, but does it show my personal feelings of failing. It may! I would love for you to put this in your charts and give me your opinions!

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No such asteroid: "blewit"

Blewett
http://markandrewholmes.com/blewett.html

posted December 13, 2016 07:49 PM            

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posted December 13, 2016 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by EMMindigo:
I think hard Saturn aspects to any of the personal planets (except, perhaps, Mars) would result in low self-worth in that area.

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Welcome Newbie

Can you please explain, giving your personal perspective, if you care to.

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posted December 13, 2016 07:56 PM            

Not you, Faith. Just...
I tried, man.
So, okay.

posted December 13, 2016 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Oh dear God...

Not you, Faith. Just...
I tried, man.
So, okay.

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posted December 13, 2016 08:01 PM            

But I see the thing here, so there's nothing to be done of it.

But I will say I'm glad for your initial introduction that I quoted.

posted December 13, 2016 08:08 PM            

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posted December 13, 2016 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have no bad feelings to Faith or Enneline or anyone. When I struggle with someone, I pray for them and ask God to give them everything I want for myself. I do this until bad feelings dissipate and then I welcome anyone back into my sphere lol

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posted December 13, 2016 08:26 PM            

I am acting from my Higher Self now

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posted December 13, 2016 09:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Please ask him to spare me from the devastating Mini bad karma I caused for myself in having done evil to you. Thanks

I am acting from my Higher Self now

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posted December 14, 2016 04:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
I'm not a person who refuses to give credit where it's due, so I will say that I really appreciate this upfront acknowledgement in the thread, in light of the recent discussion that Voix started, Ami.

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posted December 14, 2016 04:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I don't have any of these. I do have Venus *square* Saturn though, which I credit with never feeling beautiful enough. It's not so much of a problem now, as I am more focused on the tangible things I can offer the world, but I did go through a phase where I thought I was so ugly. I had severe cystic acne at the time to boot, so it was kinda hard to argue back at the critic!

I checked the asteroid as you suggested.
It trines ASC (1'), squares Moon (1'), and opposes Neptune (1').

But it is spelled "Blewett" and if my memory serves me correctly, I think it is the name of a student who won a science prize.
As there is no mythology attached, and it is literally named after someone's surname I would be hesitant to use this in reading charts TBH.

If it was actually spelled Blew-it, then I may be swayed, but it's too much of a stretch for me as "Blewett".

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Ami,

This is going to bring the same old issues again. I just want to play devil advocate and bring a new perspective to the problem. The way I see it is that you used your intuition for counseling clients and astrology is a supporting tool, not the main one. From that standpoint it does not matter if the asteroid is named Blewett or Blew it. Why? because if as a psychic you are giving that particular asteroid a particular meaning, by synchronicity it would give some meaningful response to you. I believe that this is the way intuitive people work. and from that "accuracy of data" is not the main issue as long as you can give an intuitive useful advice. I have done that myself sometimes when I see the hour in the clock and see a number and look for the asteroid. then, when the asteroid has no mythological meaning, I search for the meaning of the name itself. it gives me some insight into what the universe may be telling me at some point in time. However, this is not astrology whatsoever. I see that the folks who get angry at you is because they want your articles to be astrologically based, but in fact they are not. Astrology is brought to the equation as supporting the intuition you have on energies. Am I right?

I am not saying this in a dismissive way. I believe that the universe talks to us in many ways and some people grasp meaning in a less down-to-earth fashion. Actually I see nothing wrong with that and I have found some of your insights useful. I see that in your introduction you have stated that it is an intuitive interpretation. I would try to reinforce that this is your approach, intuition. Probably people may want to move then your articles to another section of the forum that is less astrologically based? I do not know, but I would suggest a huge disclaimer in all your introduction stating that this an experimental approach to astrology where you as a professional counselor use intuition as a guide and astrology as a supporting tool. or something similar.

I am not going to comment more on the sideline, but wanted to use this opportunity to bring an alternative solution to what it seem an endless issue.

on the astrology part

regarding your description of saturn-venus I like how you put it, clear and makes sense. with the moon-saturn I would say that not only the hard aspect but the soft aspect always create that self-doubt feeling.

best

posted December 14, 2016 07:43 AM            

I am trying to be a wiser person lol

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posted December 14, 2016 07:49 AM            

For example, I have to think like Mercury Retro. I am not "trying to"

I have to study Astrology and then see it play out and then try to get behind the EYES of the placements and then I form theories on how the aspects will act in the future.

Then, I WATCH and if they do, I write about them as if they are true because I SAW them play out every time, basically.

Once I see something happen over and over, I will not be "cajoled" from my understanding by people being angry, which is what happens on here lol

That is where I will not be budged. If people want to argue with what I have seen manifested time and time again on actual charts, I won't give in, even if everyone is against me, which has never really happened cuz there are some people who won't really allow this, like you, for one, and other people, too

However, I think I was born to do Astrology--Astrowizard conj the ASC and I think I was meant to do it in my way and so that is why I persist.

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posted December 14, 2016 07:58 AM            

This is how I found Chiron to be the way I believe it to be.

I have been doing charts for 7 years like, probably, thousands because I do them for people all the time in the various groups I am in.

OK--I have the THEORY that Chiron is pain.

I have the Astological THEORY/STUDY of what the houses mean.

I ask people. Tell me about your Chiron in that House.

99% of the Chiron conj the ASC with a close orb) were bullied as children.

The closer the orb, the more so.

Then, if I find a person who was not bullied and "argues" with me, I will approach it one of two ways.

If they are not fighting me or trying to "go after " me, I will ask to look at the chart and pick their brain.

There are times when people are in denial and I have to factor that in.

If 95% of people with Moon sq Moon have a very hard time in a relationship and one person comes in all fa, la, la that Moon trine Moon has been great in a relationship, then I don't really believe it lol

I think that person is in denial.

Also, people will tell me that OTHER people have a great relationship and no one really lives inside the head of other people *sigh*

Hence, it is not an easy prospect but this is my life purpose and I do love it lol

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posted December 14, 2016 08:14 AM            

When I do a professional chart, I interview each client beforehand to make sure we are on the same wavelength and if I feel we are not, I refer them on.

So, all my chart experiences are great learning experiences and wonderful warm experiences for me and for them, by what they say in their testimonials.

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posted December 14, 2016 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

There are times when people are in denial and I have to factor that in.

If 95% of people with Moon sq Moon have a very hard time in a relationship and one person comes in all fa, la, la that Moon trine Moon has been great in a relationship, then I don't really believe it lol

I think that person is in denial.

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And you really don´t see what could be wrong or at least debateable with this, do you?