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StubbornVirgo
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posted December 23, 2016 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus conjunct Mars:

Tracy Morgan, Robin Williams, Rihanna, John C. Reilly, Jason Isaacs, Jeff Bridges, Geoffrey Rush, Don Cheadle, Robert Knepper, John Wayne, Amanda Peet, Brooke Shields, Marilyn Monroe, Emily Deschanel, Ava Gardner, Ethan Hawke, Mike Myers, Hugh Laurie, Piper Perabo, Michael J. Fox, Joaquin Phoenix, Jamie Bell, Lady Gaga, Scott Eastwood, Johnny Depp, Ryan Reynolds, Keith Richards, Jim Morrison, Prince Harry, Katharine Hepburn, Jenny McCarthy, Steve Martin, Nick Cannon, Michael Bloomberg, Chris Cooper, T.I., Lou Reed, Princess Diana, Jeff Buckley, Trent Reznor, Brad Paisley, Nelly, Usher, Ryan Adams, Kathleen Hanna, Piers Morgan, Ella Henderson, Brett Eldredge, Alicia Silverstone, Shirley MacLaine, Helen Hunt, Robert Downey Jr, Teri Hatcher, Jon Cryer, Eric Dane, Owen Wilson, Sarah Jessica Parker, Andy Griffith, Martin Lawrence, H.G. Wells, Van Morrison, Lil Wayne, Gabby Douglas, Bobby Flay

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posted December 23, 2016 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to those 2 lists, Ryan Reynolds and Van Morrison should be the ultimate mad men.

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posted December 23, 2016 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

What sign is the Mars/Moon conjunction in, A?



Jemini

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posted December 23, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Yes. I think the same.

I have sun square pluto wide aspect, and thankfully it is 8°xx so the energy is less intense than my close friend who has closer aspect (but I think his scorp moon may contribute the energy but for sure he is obviously a control freak to anyone & anything than me who's only a control freak to my inner demons lol).

My opinion is, if you ever saw the sun square pluto people lose their anger or like a volcanic anger? well, I don't think it comes from this aspect alone. As I have one, the energy of this aspect tend to chill or gives strong cold manner if someone crosses the path. If I don't have one, my Aries moon might be an uncontrollable fire or some would say in bad tempers, so yeah, thanks to Sun square pluto who imprison all the demons inside, it resists the volcanic. LOL.


I have the square as well. Mine is 3 degree.

I agree, I don't think it comes from this aspect alone either. This aspect might be responsible for the suppression of anger, as sun-pluto is about controlled expression, until one day it builds up to the point where it can't be controlled anymore, add an afflicted mars to this aspect and yeah things might get volcanic.
Aries Moon is a rather healthy placement for expression of anger, me thinks, unless afflicted. Yeah there might be few temper tantrums thrown here and there but they are over within few minutes. Some of my close friends have Aries Moon.

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posted December 23, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
According to those 2 lists, Ryan Reynolds and Van Morrison should be the ultimate mad men.

Truth is, virtually everyone is made up of good and bad aspects, and hardly anyone is violent. If they are violent, we look to their background more than their chart. Because any chart can create a monster or a saint. We are more than just our charts. We all have the potential to transcend beyond ourselves.

But if we're looking for clues about what could make a person volatile, everyone please note that trines and sextiles can be more dangerous than squares: the square is a resistance energy, and trines are permissive and freely expressed. So you'll see lots of interesting trines in the charts of serial killers. But of course, that doesn't mean we should be putting out public warnings like this "article," advising people to walk on eggshells around people with Mars trines, or whatever.

To illustrate how a trine can go either way:

Joran Van Der Sloot is about a week older than Tim Tebow, and their charts are similar. Both have Leo sun-Mars trine Uranus. One is a successful athlete and sports reporter; the other's a convicted murderer.

It's the same for squares or any aspect. They can be directed any number of ways.

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posted December 23, 2016 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill Watterson:

Sun square Mars, moon more or less opposing Pluto

Richard Scarry
Mars square Uranus, possibly in t-square with the moon

LeVar Burton (Reading Rainbow) has Mars square Uranus.

Fred Rogers has Mars tightly quincunx Uranus.

Just showing, it can all turn out rather innocently...

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posted December 23, 2016 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes A

A mutable sign would mitigate the effect.

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posted December 23, 2016 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yota13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

Truth is, virtually everyone is made up of good and bad aspects, and hardly anyone is violent. If they are violent, we look to their background more than their chart. Because any chart can create a monster or a saint. We are more than just our charts. We all have the potential to transcend beyond ourselves.


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posted December 23, 2016 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

Truth is, virtually everyone is made up of good and bad aspects, and hardly anyone is violent. If they are violent, we look to their background more than their chart. Because any chart can create a monster or a saint. We are more than just our charts. We all have the potential to transcend beyond ourselves.

But if we're looking for clues about what could make a person volatile, everyone please note that trines and sextiles can be more dangerous than squares: the square is a resistance energy, and trines are permissive and freely expressed. So you'll see lots of interesting trines in the charts of serial killers. But of course, that doesn't mean we should be putting out public warnings like this "article," advising people to walk on eggshells around people with Mars trines, or whatever.

To illustrate how a trine can go either way:

Joran Van Der Sloot is about a week older than Tim Tebow, and their charts are similar. Both have Leo sun-Mars trine Uranus. One is a successful athlete and sports reporter; the other's a convicted murderer.

It's the same for squares or any aspect. They can be directed any number of ways.


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posted December 23, 2016 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun square pluto but I actually dont know if im a control freak i think my aquarius moon just makes me more laid back more often lol

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posted December 23, 2016 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alludeu:
I have sun square pluto but I actually dont know if im a control freak i think my aquarius moon just makes me more laid back more often lol

How close, A?

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posted December 24, 2016 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How close, A?


It is 6 degress

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posted December 24, 2016 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:


Healthy anger however is a pretty good source of energy and doing something constructive.

PErsonally I don`t really hold onto my anger long, not the fiery kind at least, but I do draw my conclusions and consequences. And that`s that. really.


I see what you mean, I am the same, I have noticed over the years anger is a big thing for me, it doesn't come out of nowhere, it's not easily aroused, I've learned to respect it as a transformation tool, there are usually important conclusions and consequences after it, and not just tantrums.

You have a Venus/Pluto sq, right? I think it is important how Vulkanus relates to it, I would see it as a theme, it's pretty...volcanic. And you have Pluto/MC? That is a powerful aspect, I often see the MC as the "tip of the arrow" of the chart (well, one might discuss MC and ASC for that, but I see the MC as the point where things are being dispersed in the outer world, like the "statement" of one's chart). How do you feel this Pluto?

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posted December 24, 2016 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 degrees would lower the intensity. A!

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posted December 26, 2016 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elise3090     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me too.
i have moon square mars
i'm learning to control my anger now

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posted December 26, 2016 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Elise, that can be a challenge but facing it is the first step. Some people never face their charts, so know you have courage!

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posted December 26, 2016 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about when someone with many Taurus planets gets upset?

Chris Brown is a perfect example. He has Sun, Moon and Venus in Taurus. When the Bull gets angry, watch out, because he will do damage.

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posted December 26, 2016 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainer Maria Milke hehe

*Rilke

:whistling: Mars square Saturn...

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posted December 26, 2016 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew that, for real.

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posted December 27, 2016 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought ya must!

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posted December 27, 2016 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is interesting, B!

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posted December 27, 2016 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I see what you mean, I am the same, I have noticed over the years anger is a big thing for me, it doesn't come out of nowhere, it's not easily aroused, I've learned to respect it as a transformation tool, there are usually important conclusions and consequences after it, and not just tantrums.

You have a Venus/Pluto sq, right? I think it is important how Vulkanus relates to it, I would see it as a theme, it's pretty...volcanic. And you have Pluto/MC? That is a powerful aspect, I often see the MC as the "tip of the arrow" of the chart (well, one might discuss MC and ASC for that, but I see the MC as the point where things are being dispersed in the outer world, like the "statement" of one's chart). How do you feel this Pluto?


Interesting perception of the MC, and pretty much the same as I have. It`s what you see, something there can`t simply being kept hidden.

How I feel it?
Well I do not really consider myself as very Plutonian, but Imight be wrong about that.
And yes, Vulcanus in 7th house opposing venus in 1st squaring Pluto on the MC (actually they are both more closely squaring the Pluto/MC-mp.

Anyway, I noticed that people tend to "push" me into situations of authority, I mean I have been trying for years to step down from being the spokesperson for the Latin-teachers at our school, and sort of happened to just end up in that group hearing and deciding about things, if pupils have really misbehaved (ranging from little things really to setting wooden houses on fire or violence), it gives an interesting insight into what is REALLY Going on underneath the surface of certain family structures and also school as a social entity, in particular in terms of the pupils, and believe me, us teachers and often parents only see the tip of an iceberg sometimes!

But interestingly especially the so called "difficult pupils" seem to flock to me and it usally just takes a certain look of me, or a few words (never shouted - my pupils know that as long as I am loud, I am in a good mood, they are getting too close to danger in crossing a line, if my voice gets really quiet) and they listen.

It`s not even something I do intentionally, it just happens.

I guess it also means that sometimes I come across as more defensive or unpenetrable or untouchable as I actually am, though it seems this doesn`t work so well anymore, as it seems people are bent on hugging or touching me all the time lately. lol

Though I still can pull the Pluto-stare out if I want to, and it`s not a nice one. Actually I can`t really stand it myself (I`ve tried it out in front of a mirror, and had to look away. LOL )


But I guess that might be Pluto?
The silent observational attitude, which people mistake for me being very competent? (even if I am not)
Thus ending up in positions of authority, though I try to fend them off and do not really want them.
Plus me sometimes coming across as having walls that are very difficult to penetrate.
or as someone said to me once: "You just are so independent, that you seem to need just nobody."

Well it`s not really me. But hey I guess the ruler of MC in Capricorn, even adds to that.

On the other hand I also come across as really passionate in an internalized, focusing way. And people seem to be surprised to learn just how shy and insecure I really am. Though the thing about shyness, not sure how much that really applies to me, maybe I have a warped perception of myself in this regard. lol

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posted December 27, 2016 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I see what you mean, I am the same, I have noticed over the years anger is a big thing for me, it doesn't come out of nowhere, it's not easily aroused, I've learned to respect it as a transformation tool, there are usually important conclusions and consequences after it, and not just tantrums.

You have a Venus/Pluto sq, right? I think it is important how Vulkanus relates to it, I would see it as a theme, it's pretty...volcanic. And you have Pluto/MC? That is a powerful aspect, I often see the MC as the "tip of the arrow" of the chart (well, one might discuss MC and ASC for that, but I see the MC as the point where things are being dispersed in the outer world, like the "statement" of one's chart). How do you feel this Pluto?


This is interesting, and I can relate to some degree.

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posted December 27, 2016 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe its the mOon square pluto mentioned here but my sister gets angry fast and loud - then she calms down quickly also - I have the same but I don't think I react as vulcanic as she does

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posted December 27, 2016 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Maybe its the mOon square pluto mentioned here but my sister gets angry fast and loud - then she calms down quickly also - I have the same but I don't think I react as vulcanic as she does


Are the degrees(the orb) different for each person, H?

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