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Faith
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posted February 04, 2017 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
Women don't really have it all that easy either.

For example...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtR_-MINR1o

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posted February 04, 2017 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciate your respect, Venusincap, and this is why I am going to be honest with you. I find the fact that you don't know you live in a world where men and women don't have equal rights/status yet and that there is much to be done for it not cool for a scientist. I expect scientists of all genders to be an inspiration for nondiscrimination, science is a place of the freedom of the mind.

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posted February 04, 2017 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Okay and Miss Red speaks for all women, I suppose?

I honestly think MGTOW and the radical feminists are just playing off each other while most people consider both camps extremists.

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posted February 04, 2017 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
For example...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtR_-MINR1o


GOLD!! I love the way the women high-fived each other. I'm going to save this video. Funny thing is many women don't even react THAT way during labour. Some manage to get through it without screaming, which is testament to their super toughness.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I honestly think MGTOW and the radical feminists are just playing off each other while most people consider both camps extremists.

Oh yeah, makes sense if you think of them as simply two warring factions like any other.

To bystanders, their propaganda taken at face value is extreme. But maybe that is the point - attack & counter-attack, no matter the principles.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Okay and Miss Red speaks for all women, I suppose?

ETA: I am sorry bout whatever discrimination you may have faced at school. But, hey, if they did get ahead on false pretenses - how far can they really get anyway?
Why should you be worried about that?

Accolades built on falsifications crumble of their own accord, sooner or later.


I did clearly state that I PERSONALLY have not come across a woman that I could talk to fairly. and I also clearly declared my desperate wish to come across a woman that is fair.
Come to think of it Ronda Rousey is a very fair lady, and she is the only fair woman that I witnessed in my entire life time. But that makes her a 1 out of 999999999999999 and she is a celebrity.

"Accolades built on falsifications crumble of their own accord, sooner or later"

It's been about half a decade since this type of behavior became acceptable everywhere, and I don't believe this trend will end anytime soon. Many organizations including Buzzfeed and many more will come up with bull**** reasons to why men should completely disappear, like man-spreading

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posted February 04, 2017 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I did clearly state that I PERSONALLY have not come across a woman that I could talk to fairly. and I also clearly declared my desperate wish to come across a woman that is fair.
Come to think of it Ronda Rousey is a very fair lady, and she is the only fair woman that I witnessed in my entire life time. But that makes her a 1 out of 999999999999999 and she is a celebrity.

"Accolades built on falsifications crumble of their own accord, sooner or later"

It's been about half a decade since this type of behavior became acceptable everywhere, and I don't believe this trend will end anytime soon. Many organizations including Buzzfeed and many more will come up with bull**** reasons to why men should completely disappear, like man-spreading


Oh, I meant their academic accolades..

Do you have something in Libra btw? All this talk of fairness..

Also, I believe you're letting their propaganda get to you. Who cares if XYZ website says men should disappear? There are always going to be people who hate you/discriminate against you for belonging to some or the other denomination.
For your gender, race, cast, creed, physique, things you love - there's no end to what people will judge you for and try to make you feel bad for. Doesn't mean you have to take them seriously.

Haters gonna hate.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I appreciate your respect, Venusincap, and this is why I am going to be honest with you. I find the fact that you don't know you live in a world where men and women don't have equal rights/status yet and that there is much to be done for it not cool for a scientist. I expect scientists of all genders to be an inspiration for nondiscrimination, science is a place of the freedom of the mind.


all I am saying is you have no proof to your claims.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've heard several times on average men make about 18+% more than woman statistically. however venusincap might not be thinking about the past but the present where change is already happening and woman are wreaking more equal rights benefits and more advantaging.

not sure if it is happening yet or not.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I honestly think MGTOW and the radical feminists are just playing off each other while most people consider both camps extremists.

Why and how are MGTOW considered extereme????
MGTOW literally means Men Going Their Own Way.
In contrast to feminsts, we don't forcefully impose our ideology, we simply wish to have nothing to do with females.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
all I am saying is you have no proof to your claims.

Ehm..
Exhibit A
B
C

There's plenty more.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Oh, I meant their academic accolades..

Do you have something in Libra btw? All this talk of fairness..

Also, I believe you're letting their propaganda get to you. Who cares if XYZ website says men should disappear? There are always going to be people who hate you/discriminate against you for belonging to some or the other denomination.
For your gender, race, cast, creed, physique, things you love - there's no end to what people will judge you for and try to make you feel bad for. Doesn't mean you have to take them seriously.

Haters gonna hate.


No I sincerely believe the women's lack of empathy towards men are too common

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posted February 04, 2017 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
No I sincerely believe the women's lack of empathy towards men are too common

Okay.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Ehm..
Exhibit A
B
C

There's plenty more.


I guess I should really give up trying to reason with ladies, it is just not possible

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posted February 04, 2017 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Why and how are MGTOW considered extereme????
MGTOW literally means Men Going Their Own Way.
In contrast to feminsts, we don't forcefully impose our ideology, we simply wish to have nothing to do with females.

MGTOW focuses on women obsessively and hypercritically.

Ripping women apart from every single angle.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I guess I should really give up trying to reason with ladies, it is just not possible

You said she had no proof. I thought I was giving some.

But, okay. I too give up trying to reason with you.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
No I sincerely believe the women's lack of empathy towards men are too common

I still don't understand why you think this is an 'all women thing' instead of a 'general people thing'
You just want to channel your discontent towards a group. (Which is apparently a very natural thing, look at all of politics, for example)

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posted February 04, 2017 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I think no matter what is said, you will be determined to disagree with us. So as far as I'm concerned, feel free to go your own way. The only person you're hurting at the end of the day is you. The fact that you feel the need to prove the validity of MGTOW is quite telling. It's almost as if you're trying to justify it to yourself more than anything. But keep going with it. Others will just forget about you and move on with their lives, leaving you alone with your internal pain.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we need more males in here to say their opinion. in the past woman commonly said men had much more power, and had undesirable behaviour. i only live with a very masculine woman which might be why i am more powerful than her. but someone i know is more feminine and always leads. we need more males in here to say.

in a time of submission and help to others; woman lead. they take the attention and leadership. men will follow in their lead. 20 years ago men would enforce their power. now. they submit. they help. and woman lead. as men submit, woman lead.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
Honestly, I think no matter what is said, you will be determined to disagree with us. So as far as I'm concerned, feel free to go your own way. The only person you're hurting at the end of the day is you.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I still don't understand why you think this is an 'all women thing' instead of a 'general people thing'
You just want to channel your discontent towards a group. (Which is apparently a very natural thing, look at all of politics, for example)

and I still don't understand why you don't think you are being a hypocrite

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posted February 04, 2017 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
GOLD!! I love the way the women high-fived each other. I'm going to save this video. Funny thing is many women don't even react THAT way during labour. Some manage to get through it without screaming, which is testament to their super toughness.

I felt bad for laughing at them but they could escape if they wanted and we can't.

And I love them for doing that.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
and I still don't understand why you don't think you are being a hypocrite

Things that I said:

"But this has nothing to do with any absolute truth about men"

"Yeah, I think it's a people thing."

"gender bias is only going to hurt everyone"

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Anyway, I think you're trolling so I'm gonna stop feeding

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posted February 04, 2017 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I guess I should really give up trying to reason with ladies, it is just not possible

Hm I feel here the next thing will be a more direct insult coming from you, sadly. I hope I am wrong.

Not sure why you think gentlemen will accept your denial of mathematical facts. I don't think your problem here which appears to be very painful to you is gender-related, or related to other people, men or women.

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posted February 04, 2017 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Things that I said:

"But this has nothing to do with any absolute truth about men"

"Yeah, I think it's a people thing."

"gender bias is only going to hurt everyone"

...

Anyway, I think you're trolling so I'm gonna stop feeding


I just said I felt same as you did with men, with women. AND I TOO MADE IT CLEAR THAT I WAS NOT GENERALIZING AND THAT MY OPINIONS ARE BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. BUT EVERYONE HERE IS ASSUMING THAT I AM A SEXIST
JUST LOOK AT HOW HARD I AM GETTING GANG BANGED RIGHT NOW

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