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Topic: Can You Tell a Malignant Narcissist From the Chart?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 06, 2017 05:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: look at what targeting people does to them. faith was targeted by ami; faith non stop fights and combats. i was targeted; i defend my place. VIC was targeted by many; he defended himself. but he let the hatred out power his being.and i'm not talking about how the targeting was done or how it looks like. we all live in expressions of the heart and each targeting was as hurtful as any other; no matter how it 'looked' like whether you make it look "nice" and "appropriate" does not take away that it is targeting. we all live from the heart, not "logic" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqju2mB_0GE&t=00m08s&t=00m04s
Exactly, Faith targets people. When they go crazy and insane and say things, SHE cries victimhood. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18913 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 06, 2017 05:55 PM
I was counting myself. The thread was dying, Ami, right? What a choking feeling for you. Second-rate well-poisoner. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3105 From: a can Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 06, 2017 05:56 PM
ami the only thought i have is everything is going as it should. all this is not because of faith but natural current. faith is a part of the current. and that was a target. but i am not muting people- that is how you hurt them. let them say what they want. or are we afraid of truth? i'm here to debate what truth is. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 06, 2017 05:59 PM
Anyway, I am sick of the 3 of them going around and BULLYING/TARGETING people and then crying that the person "exploded"------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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soren Knowflake Posts: 3105 From: a can Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 06, 2017 06:00 PM
all these people that act out acted out before they crossed path's with these girls. if they are reading: there is nothing inherently wrong with you- it's just not allowed here. and not from mine but others views: it shouldnt be here. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21701 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 06, 2017 06:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: The thread was dying, Ami, right? What a choking feeling for you.
Yeah, poor Ami. --- Just wanted to sneak in a hug and a thank you, Lee. Honestly, you are amazing. Thanks so much. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1369 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 06, 2017 06:14 PM
Soren I can see a lot of worth in what you say. I also did think he was quite distressed and wanted to ease that but then you mentioned the part about people sensing when you have other thoughts so I told him what I thought. Which by then was that most of the anger was about not getting what he wants from women. At least the misandry op reflected and showed some concern about her feelings. Ami I think you are hurt about previous experiences on here or elsewhere but you don't need to fight this any more. At least, not in this way x IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18913 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 06, 2017 06:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Yeah, poor Ami. --- Just wanted to sneak in a hug and a thank you, Lee. Honestly, you are amazing. Thanks so much.
YOU are (thank you ) I am so distressed you have become a target for so long, some are trying to prey on decency, true sensitivity and involvement, together we will find a way to change this here. There is so much light in LL and you are how this light looks like. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3105 From: a can Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 06, 2017 06:25 PM
i'm aware that there are mods watching and pertaining to this thread. we have to thank them for their kindness. they are just like us and not sure when to close or when to let it go on. they are reading this and present. logically it was good to let it go so we can reach some kind of agreement. heart-ly it was good because there is nothing wrong with this debate. it's good to occur but not from a "appropriate" perspective. but we live from the heart not logic. so thanks mods and i think peace on LL will prevail. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 06, 2017 06:26 PM
My last comment. I had a friend who came on here for a few hours and was bullied off. IT IS NOT RIGHT!------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21701 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 06, 2017 06:33 PM
@Lee What's the girl version of Bromance? So much I wish we could talk about but I don't want soren's commentary. And some of this, I'm just beyond words, and exhausted, and want to just flop down next to you on a sofa and sigh and laugh about all this in person...and nothing else in lieu of that will suffice. Cheers to astrology and cheers to all the well-adjusted astrologers here, I really appreciate everyone. Bye again for now Signing off and *proudly* hoping this thread gets hit by a bus and then eaten by fire-ants followed by a hungry Yeti. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 06, 2017 06:33 PM
Anyway, if anyone wants to go back to the subject of the Mal Marc, please do. Put up charts, if you want, too. I am not gonna let people hijack a great thread and a NEEDED subject!------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 824 From: CH Registered: Jul 2016
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posted February 07, 2017 05:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Faith, "With sun square Jupiter, which I have, the pattern does not seem to be that these people are malicious and dark, as alleged here."
The reason for this is that it is not within its astrological symbolism. Neither Sun nor Jupiter are dark energies at all, so you can boost them as much as you want, they won´t turn dark, as an isolated aspect. the square is pumping up their volume but it can only pump up what is within the symbolic range. The risk or danger with Sun-Jupiter in challenging aspect is not darkness or malice at all, but too much expansive energy. It can expand to a degree that it gets too much. Of course some people with Sun-Jupiter-square could exhibit dark traits (though we still have to define those), but this not the result of the Sun-Jupiter-square, but of a combination of another aspect, which may be prone to darker manifestations, and then the presence of Sun-Jupiter could magnify what is there. As Jupiter expands what it touches anyway, in squares it really lifts up, and Sun energizes what it touches, so with Sun-Jupiter-squares we have a LOT of energy to deal with. But like you said in most cases this usually gives an extra dose of optimism, an ebullient sense of humour and the need to expand and have a lot of space to express themselves.
Sometimes it might be a bit overly enthusiastic though, and even overly confident (but other aspects have to confirm that too). I don´t even think that Juptier on its own deals with religion or philosophy so much as the need to find a meaning in things and a way of expansion of the mental sphere (which of course could be found on these areas, but does not have to). usually if it means religion or philosophy, we would find a strong link to the 9th house (rulership or tenancy).
jupiter is knowledge, when in challenging aspects to the sun or the AC/MC specifically, the person can turn self-righteous, thinking that all they believe and do is okay.
true that other aspects in the chart can intrigue this aspect as well, but aspects to the sun are one of the biggest part of a person's character. the jupiter square definitely gives the person a lot of energy, but it's the person who chooses how to use it. the easiest way most choose to deal with this aspect of course is a malicious sense of knowing it all, and shrugging off other people's feelings for their own laughter/fun, and pursuing their own often wrong/selfish ideals at the expense of a whole community's cause.
I dislike to add to the already negative atmosphere of this thread, but I'd like to share these information for the sake of astrological education: some of the most evil human beings who have ever lived, and true malignant narcissists at that:
Benjamin Netanyahu sun square jupiter Dick Cheney sun square jupiter David Rockefeller (born 1915) sun square jupiter George W. Bush sun square jupiter other aspects:
Henry Kissinger jupiter square the MC Adolt Hitler and Donald Trump sun trine jupiter Marquis de Sade sun conjunct jupiter George H. W. Bush sun opposite jupiter Hillary Clinton jupiter square the MC - but personally I believe she's a virgo AC so it might be jupiter square the AC some useful links http://www.unsilentmajoritynews.com/david-rockefeller-an-illuminated- life-of-immorality-evil-and-treason/ https://soapboxie.com/social-issues/David-Rockefeller in case you research about them and still doubt they're evil, just look at their pictures, a person's soul WILL be seen in their face * I so hope Ami doesn't modify my response, if she cares at all about astrology/knowledge/God as she says, because I know she's a Trump supporter IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6815 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 07, 2017 06:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Anyway, I am sick of the 3 of them going around and BULLYING/TARGETING people and then crying that the person "exploded"
Bullsh*t. you are the racist, islamophobic, unethical and incorrect "astrologer" who cries around of being a victim when having been critized to be an unethical and incorrect astrologer- not to mention your racist and islamophobic bullsh*t IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21701 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2017 07:29 AM
quote: some of the most evil human beings who have ever lived, and true malignant narcissists at that:Benjamin Netanyahu sun square jupiter Dick Cheney sun square jupiter David Rockefeller (born 1915) sun square jupiter George W. Bush sun square jupiter
Four bad guys? I can find that many for any placement or aspect whatsoever. Thanks for helping Ami frame me as a Mal Narc. I was never anything but nice to you, but I guess Ami-allegiance causes people to do weird things (against me, especially). IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6306 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted February 07, 2017 07:40 AM
Kanye West _ another famous Sun - Jupiter, I think a square. He doesn't feel like a bad person at all, no. ...but that super inflated ego and god complex.. Tz tz IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18913 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 07, 2017 07:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Unfortunately, some recent examples were here:1. This person has no empathy. 2. This person enjoys hurting others. Normal people may like getting power over others but EMPATHY stops them from brutality, usually. In the case of the person with no empathy, there is nothing stopping them. 3. They have boatloads of empathy for themselves. Hence, they will cry and wail when someone hurts them, but they will have no compunction hurting someone else in the very same manner. 4, This person has NO self reflection i.e insight into themselves. They may appear to have insight into themselves, but it is a shallow show. In reality, they don’t 5. They blame others for what THEY do. This is a psychological defense mechanism. It is the “food choice” of the Malignant Narcissist. etc. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89: I DON'T GIVE A FUCM IF MY HATRED AGAINST LEELOO AND FAITH CREATES SOME KIND OF KARMA. I WILL ******* CHASE THEM INTO HELL IF I HAVE TO. MARK MY WORDS LEELOO AND FAITH, I DON'T FORGIVE, I DON'T FORGET. I WILL BATTLE YOU GUYS UNTIL MY LAST ******* BREATH. IF YOU OR FAITH WANT A PIECE OF ME I AM IN TORONTO. Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne: @Venus I am not bragging but I have leadership roles in which I have to deal with these kinds of people and do it well. I learned these lessons from EXACTLY what YOU are going through. I could never be doing half the things I am without having to go through what you are going through PS Also, the people who treat others horribly always get karma! ALWAYS [QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89: The only thing that can make me feel better right now is some sort of disaster in your house. Or news of you and leeloo getting hit by a car. Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne: I have to tell you something, Venus. Someone treated me like this and something really bad happened to her. Now, when I am treated like this, I pity the person! [QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89: I don't wish to just harm your body. I wish to harm your soul. I wish to harm everything you have and everything you will have or had. As well as Leeloo's.
Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne: People like this will reap what they sow, Venus. Don't let them make YOU do anything or say anything bad. I understand this might be some kind of cry for help, but I don't think an astrology forum has the ability to deal with this level of need for psychiatric counselling. I can't stress enough the danger and consequences of condoning internet violence. This forum is trying to heal after a difficult moment and can't be dragged down into a personal mental health matter. Of course, this is an important matter we need to discuss: the consequences of condoning, encouraging and cheering for internet violence that includes death threats, threats to bodily harm, hitlists, threats to track down and strike, etc. It would be unwise to assume all people would take this lightly. But I don't see how this would be the proper forum for that, since there is no astrological marker for psychiatric conditions, and any other suggestion has the potential to create a precedent for false and prejudiced astrology.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2017 07:53 AM
The other thing, too, is this. I just woke up and KNEW this. You never, ever, ever, ever let a Mal Narc get away with abusing you. If you do, your soul is raped until you take it back. When you take your soul back, you are free! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2017 07:54 AM
A Jupiter Sun /square has NO relevance to a Mal Narc lol There is no single aspect that does.
It is a COMPLEX!!!
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21701 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2017 07:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: A Jupiter Sun /square has NO relevance to a Mal Narc lol
No? Page one: quote: 6. In my study of charts of actual sociopaths, of which I knew three, they ALL had a very afflicted Jupiter.
So how exactly does sun square Jupiter have NO relevance? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2017 07:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Kanye West _ another famous Sun - Jupiter, I think a square. He doesn't feel like a bad person at all, no. ...but that super inflated ego and god complex.. Tz tz
I don't know that much about this aspect, Orange, but did you read "People of the Lie"? It is so classic that everyone should read it cuz everyone will have to deal with a few Mal Narcs and they destroy your soul like an actual vampire! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2017 08:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: look at what targeting people does to them. faith was targeted by ami; faith non stop fights and combats. i was targeted; i defend my place. VIC was targeted by many; he defended himself. but he let the hatred out power his being.and i'm not talking about how the targeting was done or how it looks like. we all live in expressions of the heart and each targeting was as hurtful as any other; no matter how it 'looked' like whether you make it look "nice" and "appropriate" does not take away that it is targeting. we all live from the heart, not "logic" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqju2mB_0GE&t=00m08s&t=00m04s
THIS comment describes Faith and what goes on here under the surface UNTIL the "victim" explodes and says "threatening" things and then Faith et al go crazy! This is the reality, My Friends. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21701 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2017 08:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: THIS comment describes Faith
If anyone actually studied what happened on these threads they would see you and soren bullying me. Over and over, you get involved in my conversations and attack. That's why, on this thread, people were defending me. Because they are there when things happen and see it for what it is.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21701 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2017 08:04 AM
And you don't just attack in a mild way.You created this whole thread to point to me as a Mal Narc. While supporting someone who wished me dead. Meanwhile, for the past several days, I don't recall criticizing you, except to say, you shouldn't be a mod. Because you shouldn't. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70644 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2017 08:05 AM
I want to hear from people who have a Mal Narc in your family and what you did. Put up charts, too.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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