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Enneline
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posted February 07, 2017 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The other thing, too, is this. I just woke up and KNEW this. You never, ever, ever, ever let a Mal Narc get away with abusing you. If you do, your soul is raped until you take it back. When you take your soul back, you are free!



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Did you take your soul back before or after not showing any empathy to a drowned toddler?

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posted February 07, 2017 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, the famous people lists are RIDICULOUS. You don't know these famous people.You have had ZERO personal interactions with them. You see them in movies, TV, or magazines

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posted February 07, 2017 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway, if someone sees themselves and gets insight, great, but lets' talk about Mal Narcs people know and see the charts.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]The other thing, too, is this. I just woke up and KNEW this. You never, ever, ever, ever let a Mal Narc get away with abusing you. If you do, your soul is raped until you take it back. When you take your soul back, you are free!



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Ami Anne
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posted February 07, 2017 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like certain people on LL and they don't like me. That is not what this thread is about. It is about what a Mal Narc DOES to people, which is DESTROY people. Let's share about that and about the chart aspects, particularly if you have had interactions with a Mal Marc, such as a family member or someone with whom you have interacted with enough to see that they are a Mal Narc lol

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posted February 07, 2017 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Randall

quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Unfortunately, some recent examples were here:

1. This person has no empathy.

2. This person enjoys hurting others. Normal people may like getting power over others but EMPATHY stops them from brutality, usually. In the case of the person with no empathy, there is nothing stopping them.

3. They have boatloads of empathy for themselves. Hence, they will cry and wail when someone hurts them, but they will have no compunction hurting someone else in the very same manner.

4, This person has NO self reflection i.e insight into themselves. They may appear to have insight into themselves, but it is a shallow show. In reality, they don’t

5. They blame others for what THEY do. This is a psychological defense mechanism. It is the “food choice” of the Malignant Narcissist.

etc.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I DON'T GIVE A FUCM IF MY HATRED AGAINST LEELOO AND FAITH CREATES SOME KIND OF KARMA. I WILL ******* CHASE THEM INTO HELL IF I HAVE TO. MARK MY WORDS LEELOO AND FAITH, I DON'T FORGIVE, I DON'T FORGET. I WILL BATTLE YOU GUYS UNTIL MY LAST ******* BREATH. IF YOU OR FAITH WANT A PIECE OF ME I AM IN TORONTO.

Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
@Venus

I am not bragging but I have leadership roles in which I have to deal with these kinds of people and do it well. I learned these lessons from EXACTLY what YOU are going through. I could never be doing half the things I am without having to go through what you are going through

PS Also, the people who treat others horribly always get karma! ALWAYS

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89:
The only thing that can make me feel better right now is some sort of disaster in your house. Or news of you and leeloo getting hit by a car.

Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have to tell you something, Venus. Someone treated me like this and something really bad happened to her. Now, when I am treated like this, I pity the person!


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I don't wish to just harm your body. I wish to harm your soul. I wish to harm everything you have and everything you will have or had. As well as Leeloo's.

Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People like this will reap what they sow, Venus. Don't let them make YOU do anything or say anything bad.

I understand this might be some kind of cry for help, but I don't think an astrology forum has the ability to deal with this level of need for psychiatric counselling.

I can't stress enough the danger and consequences of condoning internet violence.

This forum is trying to heal after a difficult moment and can't be dragged down into a personal mental health matter.

Of course, this is an important matter we need to discuss: the consequences of condoning, encouraging and cheering for internet violence that includes death threats, threats to bodily harm, hitlists, threats to track down and strike, etc. It would be unwise to assume all people would take this lightly.

But I don't see how this would be the proper forum for that, since there is no astrological marker for psychiatric conditions, and any other suggestion has the potential to create a precedent for false and prejudiced astrology.


Please close this thread for the above reasons, thank you.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
First of all, the famous people lists are RIDICULOUS. You don't know these famous people.You have had ZERO personal interactions with them. You see them in movies, TV, or magazines


You talk about famous people all the time.

But you can't be bothered to check charts.

That's superior?

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posted February 07, 2017 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
@ Randall

Please close this thread for the above reasons, thank you.


I asked him to close the thread yesterday and he wouldn't.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 07, 2017 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I so hope Ami doesn't modify my response, if she cares at all about astrology/knowledge/God as she says, because I know she's a Trump supporter

Your opinion is fine. I don't a different opinion but we don't KNOW famous people well enough to know if they are Mal Narcs. The Mal Narc keeps it hidden until one can see many, many interactions. That is part of what they do. They surround themselves with sychophants(sp) too, so it is very hard to see then for what they are.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are talking about an Astro subject, Faith, and an important LIFE subject. If you don't want to be part of it, then leave and exit. Take care.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
We are talking about an Astro subject, Faith, and an important LIFE subject. If you don't want to be part of it, then leave and exit. Take care.


Several people are saying it's clear this thread is about me.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
First of all, the famous people lists are RIDICULOUS. You don't know these famous people.You don't know what they are like behind closed door. You see them in movies, TV, or magazines


you can spend your time laughing or use it to research deeply into their life, although it might be hard with some of those politicians, as you probably consider them nice based on the same TV and news you just mentioned, and the truths about them are being heavily censored.

quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Four bad guys?

I can find that many for any placement or aspect whatsoever.

Thanks for helping Ami frame me as a Mal Narc.

I was never anything but nice to you, but I guess Ami-allegiance causes people to do weird things (against me, especially).


yes if you're curious you can do your own research, and I shared what I found interesting and common in all of them.

if me sharing this information feels weird to you, maybe it's because you're only seeing things from your own perspective.

me sharing this info and commenting on this thread was because I'd like to share what I find astrologically interesting, in response to ceridwen who dissmissed the idea of this specific aspect. for your info, I had no idea you had sun/jupiter square yourself, and I was responding to ceridwen which her own comment indeed confirms my theory at least to myself, and that's enough for me.

I have learned much from all three of you, leeloo, faith and ami, but know that I won't support a racist and muslimophobe person. neither will I support somebody who attacks someone else who disagreed with them and makes them angry with unnecessary jokes making them feel like their feelings don't matter.

I watched the misandry thread carefully, and while venusincap was critisized for acting unreasonable with people who disagreed with him, I think you and leeloo did the same, and bombarded him with the harshest comments, simply because he thought differently from you.

anger did get to him and he got banned, and probably 90% of LL members would have behaved like he did if they received those comments.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and while venusincap was critisized for acting unreasonable with people who disagreed with him, I think you and leeloo did the same, and bombarded him with the harshest comments, simply because he thought differently from you.

Show me ONE comment I made that was harsh?

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posted February 07, 2017 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

anger did get to him and he got banned, and probably 90% of LL members would have behaved like he did if they received those comments.


Speak for yourself and your family. Nobody I know threatens to track people down to kill them or wishes for them to be hit by a car when being told MGTOW is considered sexist. It IS sexist. And even if it weren't, nobody I know would say those things.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I watched the misandry thread carefully, and while venusincap was critisized for acting unreasonable with people who disagreed with him, I think you and leeloo did the same, and bombarded him with the harshest comments, simply because he thought differently from you.

This is what happened and it happens over and over and over on here!

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posted February 07, 2017 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These 3 people provoke, provoke, provoke "innocent" LL who are just talking stuff on LL. They wind the people up and until the people explode and then they cry that they were "threatened", which they may have been, but they PROVOKED the person to insanity. That is the lie in what they do.Then, the person, usually, leaves and they do it again and again and again!

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

I watched the misandry thread carefully, and while venusincap was critisized for acting unreasonable with people who disagreed with him, I think you and leeloo did the same, and bombarded him with the harshest comments, simply because he thought differently from you.

anger did get to him and he got banned, and probably 90% of LL members would have behaved like he did if they received those comments.


Et Tu?
Faith was nothing but kind to him, even watched his propaganda videos - he just kept up a barrage of hateful comments. LeeLoo too, VERY reasonably tried to explain her side of things to him, with facts and a lot of tact. Until he turned around and said obviously out of line s**t.

Honestly, I'm sick of discussing him - why should he occupy so much headspace? But to any third person reading that thread, it should be plenty clear what he was all about.

He was looking for a fight, and a way to blame all women no matter what. Just because he wasn't getting some. Finito.

Oh and as for the "TOPIC" of this thread,
No. No amount of natal aspects will point to a malignant narcissist. Natal aspects will only tell you HOW a particular behavioural/personality disorder will manifest, not WHETHER it is present.
Sheesh, that had to be spelled out.

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I watched the misandry thread carefully, and while venusincap was critisized for acting unreasonable with people who disagreed with him, I think you and leeloo did the same, and bombarded him with the harshest comments, simply because he thought differently from you.

Your lies have found you out, you THREE!

So, let's talk about the topic of the thread and move on!

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]I watched the misandry thread carefully, and while venusincap was critisized for acting unreasonable with people who disagreed with him, I think you and leeloo did the same, and bombarded him with the harshest comments, simply because he thought differently from you.

This is what happened and it happens over and over and over on here!

[/B]


No, what happens here is you dragging this forum into your mental illness. I didn't even mention you first, I only addressed VenusinCap, but as usually, you are pushing it as far down as you are allowed to. You were told by many people, including moderators of this forum, to close this thread, to allow healing to occur, for the people who were threatened and abused to heal.

But you are turning everything into a greater abuse.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too bad what you do came to light, Leeloo. I don't bully, so I don't have to try to defend myself.

Back to the subject, please!

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posted February 07, 2017 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really can't believe I have to put up with people siding with a guy who went ballistic and wished many people here dead.

Seriously there is nothing that Lee or I did that warranted his response.

And people do not go from normal to psycho because of one little internet tiff. He was that way long before our conversation. It's not my fault he's like that, and I refuse to be blamed for how he is, or let Lee take the blame for how that guy is. He has devoted a lot of time to being a MGTOW misogynist. It's a long-cultivated mentality that he brought to the table.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Topic---The Mal Narc and the manifestations

The Topic---Astrology of this person

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posted February 07, 2017 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
These 3 people provoke, provoke, provoke "innocent" LL who are just talking stuff on LL. They wind the people up and until the people explode and then they cry that they were "threatened", which they may have been, but they PROVOKED the person to insanity. That is the lie in what they do.Then, the person, usually, leaves and they do it again and again and again!


LIAR!

they were discussing, HE WAS THE ONE who provocated and when he realized that he wouldn't have his way, he issued death threats - and YOU ENCOURAGED him!!!

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I asked him to close the thread yesterday and he wouldn't.

He's probably too busy wiping ami's arse.

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posted February 07, 2017 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SORRY, Enneline, your game seems to be up

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