posted February 06, 2017 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If anyone wants to put up charts of the mal Narcs you know, we can see how the traits play out in the charts. That will make for a great discussion! ;shades:

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As stated earlier, the only real factor that I've noticed prominent is the SN conjunct ASC factor; that is one that can make for a narcissist. Came from a place of too much self-focus and needs to learn how to be with others without selfish desires.

posted February 06, 2017 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
No, it's not okay. If she has a problem with you, she should talk to you about it and settle the score instead of being passive-aggressive about it and trying to ruin your reputation while she appears to be helping the general public. I've lived with so many people that have engaged in this sort of behavior that I've become entirely desensitized to it.

Honestly, she's done so many things that circulate around you that I've stopped caring and listening to her, knowing that all she can do is play mind games and can never confront issues head on. To me, that's her problem, not mine. I don't like how she tries to ruin you on the forums like she's trying to do, but the only way to beat her at this game is to not give her the attention she desires.

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There is a point when dealing with her is unavoidable, though. Just given my principles, I felt obliged to instill some astrological objectivity into this thread.

And eventually it became necessary to spare other people who are targeted by her astrological accusations, by saying "No, don't worry, this isn't about you, it's directed at me."

posted February 06, 2017 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
How is not explicitly stating any better?
It's like the lowest form of warfare.

Gleefully globbing onto someone attacking a person you dislike - no matter what they do.

It's like if you had a spat with someone at school. Later they see you getting mugged and cheer the mugger on.

Alarming lack of empathy.

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posted February 06, 2017 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
but the only way to beat her at this game is to not give her the attention she desires.

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posted February 06, 2017 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
How is not explicitly stating any better?
It's like the lowest form of warfare.

Gleefully globbing onto someone attacking a person you dislike - no matter what they do.

It's like if you had a spat with someone at school. Later they see you getting mugged and cheer the mugger on.

Alarming lack of empathy.

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It was just a logical assessment of the situation. Sorry if I came out sounding apathetic.

I just see it as being a coward; if you can't face me yourself and just laugh along someone else taking someone out, then you're nothing to me. Ami does these sort of things and therefore I don't see any worth in her, which is why I don't care to engage and go after Ami in her fights against Faith. Trust me, I really like Faith; she's been one of the closest friends I've had on the forums, and I don't like seeing her getting attacked. My question is: Why continue to go after her like this if she's so easily making Faith looking like a perpetrator and making her look bad in the process?

I don't like Ami's mindgames at all, and if I could do something about it, I would, but so far, much hasn't been achieved. I'm looking for another solution.

posted February 06, 2017 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
In retrospect it was interesting to me that he didn't reveal his affiliation, just asked my opinion of it, which I gave frankly: "A lot of the videos remind me of the KKK." (No exaggeration! They do!)

Later I was accused of saying HE is like a KKK member, as if I had known all along that he was MGTOW. I didn't even know it was a male I was talking to....and I certainly didn't think his allegiance to the cult was so extreme that he would wish me dead when I criticized it briefly and mildly, all things considered.

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posted February 06, 2017 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I thought Electro just made that distinction because soren accused Lee and I of saying that Ami wished death on us...we never said that...Electro is reiterating that that is not our argument.

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posted February 06, 2017 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
There is a point when dealing with her is unavoidable, though. Just given my principles, I felt obliged to instill some astrological objectivity into this thread.

And eventually it became necessary to spare other people who are targeted by her astrological accusations, by saying "No, don't worry, this isn't about you, it's directed at me."

Anyway, thanks for being totally on point, as usual.

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I see what you're saying. I just think it's not worth putting ALL your energy into, if you know what I mean

posted February 06, 2017 10:57 AM            

But how curious that Venusincap put all these curses on me and I responded by offering caring advice, coming from a sincere place of empathy...and I explained many times that I wasn't meaning any harm...and I wished him the opposite of curses...

And yet

I lack empathy for sure.

I mean that is super backwards.

K, sorry for hogging up the thread, but since it was created for me, I felt entitled to say my peace.

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posted February 06, 2017 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
It was just a logical assessment of the situation. Sorry if I came out sounding apathetic.

I just see it as being a coward; if you can't face me yourself and just laugh along someone else taking someone out, then you're nothing to me. Ami does these sort of things and therefore I don't see any worth in her, which is why I don't care to engage and go after Ami in her fights against Faith. Trust me, I really like Faith; she's been one of the closest friends I've had on the forums, and I don't like seeing her getting attacked. My question is: Why continue to go after her like this if she's so easily making Faith looking like a perpetrator and making her look bad in the process?

I don't like Ami's mindgames at all, and if I could do something about it, I would, but so far, much hasn't been achieved. I'm looking for another solution.

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I know you do! I just meant she's beyond "reasoning".

posted February 06, 2017 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I see what you're saying. I just think it's not worth putting ALL your energy into, if you know what I mean

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Point taken, I have a life to live, honest!!!

Bye everyone, have a nice day.

YOU, TOO, AMI.

posted February 06, 2017 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by bonsai:
You're 100% right Electro. That's why for a long period I was ignoring anything to do with Ami, even when there were other fights, because it seems Ami thrives off of getting attention, even if the attention is ridiculing her (with good reason, too). And I too think the way to teach her is to not take notice of her at all. And if we all do that, then she might go away like a bad dream. I don't know why I'm even giving her any attention today. I guess because Faith is a really nice person and I want to stick up for her every now and then, even if it goes against my need to treat Ami like she doesn't exist.

I too need to live my life. I'm going to go do work now.

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posted February 06, 2017 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:

I know you do! I just meant she's beyond "reasoning".

I read your response to the response later.

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This progressed Aqua Moon is really getting to me. I dyed my hair black and my feelings just feel dead anymore. A part of my life where my passion is only stimulated by music and topics of interest. Otherwise I feel emotionally dead, when I'm usually quite sensitive. Perhaps that's why I feel like I'm come of as apathetic anymore.

posted February 06, 2017 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Let's get back to Astrology. If someone gets insight from this thread, great! I hope so.

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posted February 06, 2017 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

If a person sees oneself in this, then it is good that they can, perhaps, try to face themselves.

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I never cease to be amazed at the extent to which you will go to preach the need for others to do what you are so obviously incapable of doing yourself.

posted February 06, 2017 12:38 PM            

First off, I can't believe how negative this thread and that other Misandry thread are.

Wow.

It seems like the time LL was a genuinely nice place full of positive, caring exchange and learning is totally over.

No wonder I barely come around here...

Seriously, this is so disappointing.

I can literally feel the dirty energy affecting me right now, but I want to comment because I was a regular user on here and it's just, wow. A complete shame.

Ami Anne,

Please stop mentioning or addressing Faith in any of your posts. Faith is a friend of mine and she is not at all the person you think she is. Seeing her name being tainted with your negativity is appalling, and seriously annoying.

You may think you know her, and that you can see her for who she is, but trust me, you do not.

And supporting threats and death wishes is absolutely disgusting. You're the one who cannot see your own behavior. I don't believe you're a bad person, but it's absolutely not fair for others to receive such treatment from you (or anyone else).

And don't get me wrong, I do not wish you any harm, and I don't think you're "evil" (before anyone starts twisting my words, because apparently it's become a common practice these days). I don't think anyone here is truly evil. I just see a lot of people with a bunch of unresolved issues projecting their own buried pain or repressed anger, etc. via hateful words. It's truly appalling. Especially coming from a "spiritual" community (what a joke!).

But this needs to stop, because all this negative energy is RUINING Lindaland.
We've already lost so many awesome users and it just keeps getting worse and worse.

You might not be the only one contributing, but you sure are enabling it (I still can't believe you supported Venusincap's statements in that other thread...).

And this isn't an astrology thread.

Nobody benefits from seeing "an afflicted Jupiter or Moon is present in people with Malignant Narcissism". Nobody.

If someone's dealing with a MN, they WILL know it, regardless of astrology. Sooner or later, they will just know something is deeply wrong with the other person, and at that point astrology becomes futile.
The only thing they need to know is what they're dealing with (and that's not even necessary, but psychology can shed enough light on that without the use of astrology anyway), and get away from that person as soon as they can. That's it.

There are just too many variables and at this point, astrology cannot tell us whether or not someone has a mental illness. All this categorization does is harming people and bringing more confusion, division and fear to people who are already unsettled or in need of help or answers.

This is the kind of thread needed in psychology or health forums, especially when it's clearly a back-handed stab at someone (who absolutely doesn't deserve it, to boot).

I apologize for the long tirade, but I wanted to speak up.

And Venusincap, should you read this (by any chance), what you said is absolutely unacceptable and disgusting, and there is NO justification for it.

Anyone supporting that kind of hatred is definitely not in their right mind and needs some deep meditation and self-compassion... Or at the very least they need to learn appropriate behavior.
And yes, Ami and soren, I am totally looking at you, straight in the eye.

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Faith, LeeLoo, Elysia, and all the others who were part of that big clusterF, I'm sorry you had to deal with that and hope you weren't deeply affected by it

I don't come around here very often anymore hence the sparse commenting, so this might seem like it comes out of the blue.

But coming from someone who's known this place for many years, I needed to comment on this. Even if it might not help anyone.

It's just truly sad to see this place in such bad shape.

Hopefully we can all take a moment to reflect on our own behavior and stop throwing stones at the people who are just as human as we are... no more, no less (I am talking about the people on here (and in our lives), and not the actual psychopaths/narcissists, because who knows, they might be "evil", but I'm no judge of that).

Peace to all,

We very much need it in these tense times (remember, tJupiter is opposing tUranus right now - our nerves are on overload. And the quincunx to tChiron only amplifies our "baggage" and old wounds. In the sign of Pisces ~ universal healing is required, letting go and forgiveness... all the good stuff).

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posted February 06, 2017 01:21 PM            

incase no one noticed there is 2 main sides. the deliberate motif and cold, analyzing side, and then a side of "feel good" people who are fun. the one side takes the other side too seriously.

after he got banned i understood that this is a forum for 13 yr to 80 yr olds. it's intended to be a loving warm place for all. if it was 18+ maybe he wouldn't be that misplaced. i come from more harsher forums but this isn't one that adopts that same thing. people constantly disrespected one another, as much as they could, it was the norm 10 years ago there.

even still i accepted it because i'm quite sure he didn't truly phase anyone. you care about the truth? he is a reflection of truth. you can't fake feelings. he did the right thing in showing how he felt. it's like you don't want to know the truth. he showed you it. you should be thanking him for that. i'd rather know the truth.

as for people bending information; yes i agree that can be annoying but nothing the TRUTH won't settle. leeloo is one of the people who constantly bends info for no good reason. and faith said i claimed they claimed that ami made death threats. well i thought leeloo was claiming it because i hoped like everyone else she would say relevent things to the topic. the topic was about ami being a bad mod and leeloo replied to my defense of ami "death threats are a cyber crime" and i thought she was refering to ami so i was like ami never made death threats but i later found myself corrected she basically said it at the start of the paragraph, switching the whole tone of the topic about death threats and not sticking to the topic of ami.

and just because you stick with someone who you see nothing wrong with and support them, doesn't mean you are bad. i stuck with nine because i saw them as someone in need of help when she said something kind of not desirable. i thought it wasn't a good thing to say either, and just because i saw them as a human and tried to HELP instead of criticize. same with Ami and VIC. just because she decided to support him doesn't mean she agreed or encouraged what he said, but you can keep bringing up that false argument it is a lie argument and you are living in lies. She supports a fellow human. She didn't support the things he was saying. That is the flaw in all your arguments. She saw a human being who was being attacked and she felt compassion. It had nothing to do with the words he said. The words he said werent all that serious either they were just an expression of his feelings. But you are all so plainly uncreative that you THINK EXPRESSION can't be a certain way, that's the exact 'in box' thinking which is the opposite of what creativity is. He got creative. You guys are in a box of thinking. His threats meant nothing but an expression of his feelings.

posted February 06, 2017 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:

incase no one noticed there is 2 main sides. the deliberate motif and cold, analyzing side, and then a side of "feel good" people who are fun. the one side takes the other side too seriously.

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