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Chaitaly
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posted August 16, 2017 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wonderful topic!

I've been really interested in serial killers (and I attended criminology courses) before astrology, and when I began to study astrology, then I got automaticly interested in Criminal Astrology for a period of time... I read a few interesting articles about the natal charts of serial killers... and I some research on my own, looking at the charts of serial murderers (the problem is that sometimes the TOB is unknown)... it is a huge field to study, and a personal investigation clearly cannot be exhaustive, BUT... interestingly, I found out similarities and patterns among serial killers that were not connected by space or time... it is too much information to summerize, but in brief: like someone has already said, personal planects are afflicted in some way, showing that it is very hard for the individual to feel empathy, or to express emotions in an healthy way; there can be indications of sudden outburts or bad temper (Uranus-mars for example) in the chart of an otherwise very self-controlled personality; usually they are smart, objective, observers... and extremely cold (a lot of Virgo and Aqua); they are manipulators (a requirement, both to approach the victims
and to fool authorities if they've been catched...), so Pluto contacts play a role; in most (all) cases, Pluto challenges both Sun, Venus (especially the Sun)... and Mercury (the mind); interestingly, Scorpio as a sign is quite absent...
It would be too much to write here but we could open a discussion and share their charts 😁.

Time ago I read an article of an astrologer who took the charts of several serial killers and pedophiles, there's still a lot to investigate but... having seen a few hundred charts, he observed that challenges from Pluto to personal planets are most commonly found in serial killers, while pedophiles (or in cases were the victim was abused and then killed and the sexual abuse was the reason for the aggression) have more aspects between Neptune-personal planets; in the last case, it is quite clear how Neptune, in a person with serious personality issues etc., would dissolve the boundaries of a normal sexual drive, so pedophiles with strong Neptune don't perceive any moral trasgression in having intercourse with children...

The results are debatable since we can't collect the data of every pedophile in the world, but they are still interesting obsevations.

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teasel
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posted August 16, 2017 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was almost killed by an angry Sagittarius, when I was small. He seemed to always be angry about something.

One of the sweetest guys I knew was also a Sadge. I only know his chart, nothing about the first guy, except his Sun.

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hypatia238
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posted August 17, 2017 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chaitaly:

Wonderful topic!

I've been really interested in serial killers (and I attended criminology courses) before astrology, and when I began to study astrology, then I got automatically interested in Criminal Astrology for a period of time... I read a few interesting articles about the natal charts of serial killers... and I some research on my own, looking at the charts of serial murderers (the problem is that sometimes the TOB is unknown)... it is a huge field to study, and a personal investigation clearly cannot be exhaustive, BUT... interestingly, I found out similarities and patterns among serial killers that were not connected by space or time... it is too much information to summarize, but in brief: like someone has already said, personal planets are afflicted in some way, showing that it is very hard for the individual to feel empathy, or to express emotions in an healthy way; there can be indications of sudden outbursts or bad temper (Uranus-mars for example) in the chart of an otherwise very self-controlled personality; usually they are smart, objective, observers... and extremely cold (a lot of Virgo and Aqua); they are manipulators (a requirement, both to approach the victims
and to fool authorities if they've been catched...), so Pluto contacts play a role; in most (all) cases, Pluto challenges both Sun, Venus (especially the Sun)... and Mercury (the mind); interestingly, Scorpio as a sign is quite absent...
It would be too much to write here but we could open a discussion and share their charts 😁.

Time ago I read an article of an astrologer who took the charts of several serial killers and pedophiles, there's still a lot to investigate but... having seen a few hundred charts, he observed that challenges from Pluto to personal planets are most commonly found in serial killers, while pedophiles (or in cases were the victim was abused and then killed and the sexual abuse was the reason for the aggression) have more aspects between Neptune-personal planets; in the last case, it is quite clear how Neptune, in a person with serious personality issues etc., would dissolve the boundaries of a normal sexual drive, so pedophiles with strong Neptune don't perceive any moral transgression in having intercourse with children...

The results are debatable since we can't collect the data of every pedophile in the world, but they are still interesting observations.


Fascinating, thanks for sharing your research and findings with us, we all truly appreciate it.

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hypatia238
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posted August 17, 2017 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 9thScorpio:
If I'm not mistaken, you are a Virgo too so we live for data and analysis. But hey, now I know who will I tag in a post if I find something interesting about criminology. Did you see research about Pallas?


Yes my darling, we are both Virgos! hahaha I love the scorpio and virgo combo in synastry or natal btw. My ex was a scorpio with virgo rising and the current guy I am falling for is a scorpio with virgo rising and I am a virgo with scorpio rising LOL.....

I really should research Pallas more, What are your theories on Pallas so far? and yes do tag me!

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posted August 17, 2017 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 9thScorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes my darling, we are both Virgos! hahaha I love the scorpio and virgo combo in synastry or natal btw. My ex was a scorpio with virgo rising and the current guy I am falling for is a scorpio with virgo rising and I am a virgo with scorpio rising LOL.....

I really should research Pallas more, What are your theories on Pallas so far? and yes do tag me!


It takes one to know one! Also, if this is not creepy, I saw your picture on photos thread and you are so beautiful!

The closes I've gotten to a scorpio was a scorpio sun virgo moon lad, my my, was there a chemistry. But it never picked up. Guess it was never meant to be!

Pallas was always near and dear to my heart since Athena was my favorite Goddess as long as I can remember. I always felt a strong connection with her. She was an arch type of a strong and smart and skillful woman in my mind. And I liked her representing justice and intelligence and fairness even in fight. I always associate Pallas with higher mind and third eye. But since things can always go rouge I guess rouge Pallas can be really cunning and cruel and roll on this huge ego trip so maybe it's not that shocking to see her prominence in charts of some not so nice people. But then again, it's not surprising to see her prominence in charts of amazing people either.

You really opened Pandora's box now because I will be showing you so much stuff I stumble upon! I will link it here since it's relevant to out topic of discussion.
http://zot.net/criminalastrology.htm

Also, if nothing I say makes sense, Mercury retrograde is taking it's toll on me so words end up being jumbled messed and train of thought has no real connection.

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hypatia238
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posted September 03, 2017 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 9thScorpio:
It takes one to know one! Also, if this is not creepy, I saw your picture on photos thread and you are so beautiful!

The closes I've gotten to a scorpio was a scorpio sun virgo moon lad, my my, was there a chemistry. But it never picked up. Guess it was never meant to be!

Pallas was always near and dear to my heart since Athena was my favorite Goddess as long as I can remember. I always felt a strong connection with her. She was an arch type of a strong and smart and skillful woman in my mind. And I liked her representing justice and intelligence and fairness even in fight. I always associate Pallas with higher mind and third eye. But since things can always go rouge I guess rouge Pallas can be really cunning and cruel and roll on this huge ego trip so maybe it's not that shocking to see her prominence in charts of some not so nice people. But then again, it's not surprising to see her prominence in charts of amazing people either.

You really opened Pandora's box now because I will be showing you so much stuff I stumble upon! I will link it here since it's relevant to out topic of discussion.
http://zot.net/criminalastrology.htm

Also, if nothing I say makes sense, Mercury retrograde is taking it's toll on me so words end up being jumbled messed and train of thought has no real connection.


Thank you so much for the lovely compliment! Blushing...

I associate too Pallas with a higher mind and the third eye, I like how you present it. Like an intellect guided spiritually in a sense or a higher knowing.

I want to look into serial killer charts and post their charts up here and maybe we can look for patterns together.

I have noticed two charts with Jupiter in hard aspect to both Saturn and Pluto but want to check out more charts to see if that is a pattern.

I would like to check what Ixion is doing in the charts of serial killers too!

Here is link that mentions 15 serial killers with very high counts:
http://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-serial-killers-who-make-dahmer-look-like-barney/

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posted September 03, 2017 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Mars in Cancer
Jupiter opposite Saturn
Jupiter square Pluto
Venus conjunct Pluto in Gemini

Nessus semisextile Dejanira exact
Saturn semisextile Ixion exact

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9thScorpio
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posted September 06, 2017 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 9thScorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Thank you so much for the lovely compliment! Blushing...

I associate too Pallas with a higher mind and the third eye, I like how you present it. Like an intellect guided spiritually in a sense or a higher knowing.

I want to look into serial killer charts and post their charts up here and maybe we can look for patterns together.

I have noticed two charts with Jupiter in hard aspect to both Saturn and Pluto but want to check out more charts to see if that is a pattern.

I would like to check what Ixion is doing in the charts of serial killers too!

Here is link that mentions 15 serial killers with very high counts:
[URL=http://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-serial-killers-who-make-dahmer-look-like-barney/]http://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-serial-killers-who-make-dahmer-look-like-barney/[/ URL]


No problem <3

Did you also notice that a lot of cult leaders have Pallas/Pluto? Technically, Mason never killed anyone but he was a charismatic cult leader. Then, both L Ron Hubbard (not to offend anyone but scientology smells fishy to me) and Jim Jones have them. Jonestown is, by witnesses who survived and conspiracy theorists actually a massacre, not suicide. There is a documentary about what went down. I haven'd had a chance to watch it yet but from clips I've seen, it's creepy. Also, Jones killed animals as a child and held funerals for them.

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