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Topic: The Last Dispositor in a Stellium: What does it rule in your chart?
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 03:53 PM
So this guy I am friends with has a big scorpio stellium with Pluto in Scorpio been the last dispositor (Sun, venus, mercury and pluto all in scorpio) but he really acts like a Cancer and feels like a cancer disguised as a Scorpio. He feels like a hybrid but at the core he is more a CANCER.So I looked at his chart to see why! and he has an empty 4th house LOL but the ruler of his IC is PLUTO! which conjuncts that Stellium, so his 4th house ruler conjuncts his scorpio stellium as the last dispositor of the stellium is his 4th house ruler, Pluto. Family means everything to him and he would die for his family and his country or anyone he feels really attached to. He is very intense but also feels needy like a cancer often saying things like "I am afraid to lose you" which I dont like to hear, I feel that anxiety and it makes me uncomfortable and stresses me out. Anyways for those who have stelliums on their chart I think the last dispositor of the stellium and what it rules in your chart will say a lot about you and may result in you acting like you are another sign, the rulership of the last dispositor has a huge impact on your personality I feel. Do you have a stellium and what is the rulership of the last dispositor in that stellium? do you identify a lot with that house the last dispositor rules? Is it a big theme in your life and personality? IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1779 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 05, 2017 04:25 PM
Hi Hypatia This is interesting,how do I know the dispositor of my stellium?Sun/uranus/neptune Please don't quote. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 04:46 PM
^^ What sign is your stellium in?IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1779 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 05, 2017 04:48 PM
oops..capricorn.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 04:53 PM
Ok so Saturn rules your Stellium. You could then ask yourself what house does Saturn rule in your chart and perhaps you will feel a strong influence of that house and its values in your personality. This is my theory basically. What house does your Saturn rule? Or you could go further and find out what sign is your saturn in till you reach the last dispositor..... Example: Like my Venus conjunct Mars are in Leo so they are disposited by the Sun and my Sun is in Virgo so my Sun is disposited by Mercury in Virgo making it the last dispositor since virgo is at home in mercury. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 04:57 PM
In your case since Saturn is not part of the stellium the influence might not be felt as strongly as the example I gave in the original post..Like the dispositor of his stellium was also the final dispositor of the stellium and it conjuncted his stellium, in other words it was included in the stellium which rules his 4th house, hence cancer is felt very strongly in his personality even though he does not technically have anything in cancer or his 4th house. IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1779 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 05, 2017 05:08 PM
Thanks for the explanation  Saturn rules my 8th house. Saturn is in my 8th house My sun is in 7th house - it could be in 8th house in case my TOB is a little off (I have a round number on my certificate)
-Neptune/uranus in 8th house -I also have a pluto/moon quincunx I think is hard to say but I definitely feel like a scorpio sometimes! and I always wondered exactly why.I don't think saturn/uranus/neptune on 8th house would give me scorpio traits.But then I still have the quincunx and the possibility of having the sun there. I think I confused you right?hahaha Sorry for not giving a clear answer but I think with all this mess on my chart the answer is a little blurred. Please don't quote
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 05:53 PM
Well if saturn rules your 8th and that stellium then yes I would think you would feel a bit scorpio but not as much as if saturn conjuncted your stellium, then it would be very evident.I imagine you feel like a hybrid though between scorpio and your Sun sign definitely. I imagine lots of 8th house themes happening in your life..Is your father alive? IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1779 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 05, 2017 06:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Well if saturn rules your 8th and that stellium then yes I would think you would feel a bit scorpio but not as much as if saturn conjuncted your stellium, then it would be very evident.
Yeah,I think so too. quote:
I imagine you feel like a hybrid though between scorpio and your Sun sign definitely.I imagine lots of 8th house themes happening in your life..Is your father alive?
He is alive,thank God! but we used to have problems,clash too much.I have oppositions/squares/conjunctions to my sun. Please don't quote IP: Logged |
9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 135 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted October 05, 2017 06:08 PM
Scorpio stellium with elevated Pluto as dispositor here! My mother always said to me: You are not typical Virgo, you are something else. Explains a lot since my Sun falls in 8th house and stellium is composed of Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto, MC and NN. Scorpio rules 10th house.------------------ Sun in Virgo Moon in Scorpio Venus in Scorpio Jupiter in Scorpio Pluto in Scorpio MC in Scorpio NN in Scorpio ASC in Capricorn IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 08:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by 9thScorpio: Scorpio stellium with elevated Pluto as dispositor here! My mother always said to me: You are not typical Virgo, you are something else. Explains a lot since my Sun falls in 8th house and stellium is composed of Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto, MC and NN. Scorpio rules 10th house.
If you have pluto in scorpio conjunct your scorpio stellium and pluto rules your 10th house you must feel very capricorn and be very ambitious. Like a capricorn scorpio hybrid. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 4539 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 05, 2017 10:29 PM
Stellium in sign vs stellium in house?IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 10:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Stellium in sign vs stellium in house?
No, more like find ruler of stellium and then look for the final dispositor of the ruler of the stellium and then find what house that rules and it gives you a hybrid effect with your sun sign.. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2017 11:01 PM
Empty Spaces what is the final dispositor of your Saturn, what sign is on your saturn?... IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1779 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 05, 2017 11:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Empty Spaces what is the final dispositor of your Saturn, what sign is on your saturn?...
Saturn in aquarius.Aquarius rules the 9th house. IP: Logged |
9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 135 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted October 06, 2017 09:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: If you have pluto in scorpio conjunct your scorpio stellium and pluto rules your 10th house you must feel very capricorn and be very ambitious.Like a capricorn scorpio hybrid.
Honestly, I feel lost and like a failure but that's a topic for another day! But I've noticed, especially in group projects, I'm large and in charge. God help all those poor people that need to work with me. Oh, and since Pluto is at 25 degrees, it conjuncts MC only. I imagine it would be, and I do apologize a sh1t show if it did conjunct Moon, Venus and Jupiter. Especially since Moon/Jupiter loves to be overly dramatic. I'm guilty of that one, won't deny it. *puts one leg in the air just for the effect* IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted October 06, 2017 10:24 AM
I have read in an astrologers article, although he was not sure, but he had detected a pattern, that people with stelliums in a sign was on the contrary not acting out this sign that much as one would have thought. For ex a person with a stellium in gemeini, not acting out this gemini energy etc. So some astrologers seems to be on something about this matter. I have to look this up, I have a stellium, if you count chiron as a "planet". Also 2 planets plus n.node in an other sign. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted October 06, 2017 11:08 AM
In my case I have Moon, Mars and Chiron in Gemini 10th house. And I wouldn't say I don't act like a gemini, BUT I'm not the restless type, and I'm not all over the place when I'm talking, I can actually talk calmly and I'm a good listener.I thought it has to be due to Saturn oppo my gemini planets?I met a girl once, she is 25 or something, and she was soo all over the place with her energy, I was unable to have a proper conversation with her. She basically had eye contact and could concentrate on you just for a minute or so! She could ask a few questions, listen give some feedback and then her focus would wander somewhere else. Although I have lots of gemini in my chart and do not act like this, I instantly knew she must be a strong gemini. And yes, I looked her data up, she has 4 planets in gemini. But I don't know her birth time so I can't find out the dispositor. In my case my 10th house is ruled by Mercury. And the Mercury is in my 9th house Taurus oppo my pluto. And yes my communication is more like taurus. But isin't it suppose to be like that anyway? Mercury rules the communication? ALthough in my case it's like Mercury in Taurus also takes over my gemini energy and makes it more taurus like I guess?
The last dispositor is then Venus, and its in Aries 8th house IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2017 11:27 AM
Melinn what house does your Venus rule? It falls in the 8th house but what does it rule? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2017 11:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Empty Spaces: Saturn in aquarius.Aquarius rules the 9th house.
There you go 9th house matters must be very important to you but you do your own thing in this area... Getting a degree is very important to you but you will go about this in an unique way or the degree you get will be very unique in some way, perhaps something very specialized. Or what do you think? How does saturn ruling your 9th house play out in your life? Would you say the 9th house is very important to you? IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted October 06, 2017 11:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Melinn what house does your Venus rule? It falls in the 8th house but what does it rule?
Hmm well since Venus is in Aries, its then ruled by Mars right? And Mars is in Gemini. But the 8th house itself is ruled by Pluto. And my Pluto is in Scorpio. The only single planet except for Neptune. And I'm very Plutonic.... IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2017 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Melinn: Hmm well since Venus is in Aries, its then ruled by Mars right? And Mars is in Gemini. But the 8th house itself is ruled by Pluto. And my Pluto is in Scorpio. The only single planet except for Neptune. And I'm very Plutonic....
So the last dispositor is not venus? You need to figure out the last dispositor of the ruler of your stellium... And then figure out what that rules. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted October 06, 2017 02:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: So the last dispositor is not venus? You need to figure out the last dispositor of the ruler of your stellium... And then figure out what that rules.
Ah ok, then Pluto it is? Pluto rules my 3rd house, and I would say the third house theme is a strong one for me IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7596 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2017 04:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Melinn: Ah ok, then Pluto it is? Pluto rules my 3rd house, and I would say the third house theme is a strong one for me
Well you said you feel very plutonic and pluto is the last dispositor of your stellium so there you have it!  IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted October 06, 2017 04:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Well you said you feel very plutonic and pluto is the last dispositor of your stellium so there you have it! 
Yes thank you! This Pluto is really everywhere! Sometimes I wonder if its not the sole ruler over my whole damn chart! Lately I have become very much more selfaware about my "communication" style (as if I was not selfaware enough), I feel and know I can be very very off putting and too pushy and I work on transforming my style. I don't think I work hard enough. It's so damn hard to be in the moment and at the same time focus on so many other things. i have a mantra that I always forget when interacting with friends. It goes "Focus, process, react". Meaning: focus on what the other person is saying. Process at the same time what she/he is trying to say and also focusing on what he/she lefts out of it and why. And at last react, meaning; do not react on a reflex before processing thoroughly because then I often can blurt out things thats not thought through. Well basically all this is so far proven to be too hard! I can't do all this without disrupting the flow of things, I'm no Sherlock Holmes!(benedict Cumberbatches version, so super fast at processing and reacting to things) .
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