posted November 27, 2017 04:00 PM            

Could you explain briefly the effect of a grand trine in any element of the elements :fire,air,earth,water.

posted November 27, 2017 05:15 PM            

A regular trine is simply when you have any planet with some same elements. A regular trine does not require you to have ALL THREE of that element's signs in it. So for example, if I had Mercury in Leo, Mars in Sagittarius, and Saturn in Sagittarius, I would have two regular trines (Mercury-Mars, Mercury-Saturn) but then one conjunction (Mars-Saturn) so it doesn't count as a Grand Trine because there is no Aries present.

The Grand Trine simply gives the native a heightened power in that element. So if you have a Grand Trine in Earth, you might be extremely good with finances, managing, professional work, tidying, making money, beautifying things, etc. The power you get from that element would kind of be like "been there, done that. I've got this! I can handle this energy! No one knows this type of energy better than me! Life is a breeze with this type of energy because I just handle it so well". You know? There is just so much ease and comfort to the native who has a Grand Trine, particularly in the attributes of that element. In synastry, Grand Trines are very good for this reason. Imagine a couple who had a Grand Trine in earth; they would just know how to satisfy the needs of their partner's planets with so much more ease.

For both the Grand Trine and the regular trine, it is possible to have out-of-sign trines. If your trine or Grand Trine consists of out-of-sign aspects, you might not have as much ease as the elements are not balanced, but you will still have some extra ease than most.

posted November 30, 2017 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
What is the difference between having some trines and having a grand trine?It holds more power since the planets are connected?

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Yes.

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I don't understand patterns.T-squares,Yods etc I'm a newbie.

Could you explain briefly the effect of a grand trine in any element of the elements :fire,air,earth,water.

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In the fire signs, it is drive, enthusiasm, innate understanding of how to apply the planetary energies to infusing life with growth, success, etc. The earth signs emphasize practicality and materiality, understanding of how things work at the level of the earth plane. Air emphasizes the social world of communication and relating. Water, the emotions, undercurrents, creativity, and more spiritual themes. If you understand the elements pretty well generally they help seeing the background / mode of expression the particular energies of the planets involved in someone's grand trine.

It takes time to absorb it all in the learning process. Years.

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Asc and MC can be part of a grand trine?

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Yes, but most of the time when the term is used it refers to 3 separate points defined by planets.

posted December 01, 2017 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:

Asc and MC can be part of a grand trine?

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

Yes, but most of the time when the term is used it refers to 3 separate points defined by planets.

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posted December 01, 2017 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
Kannon, do you think you can elaborate how come it is mainly defined by planets? I have the grand trine (water signs/fire houses all within 2/3 degrees) -- Pluto/Jupiter/Asc.

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You always have to look first at the planets involved. They are the actual energies at work. The signs/element is more background, the broader context.

Jupiter & Pluto in a grand trine will make any other point/planet stronger, more powerful. Doesn't matter what it is. They'll help in business and finance -- should make the effort -- no matter what elements or houses are involved. They develop things profounder and deeper, taking them further. So for example, a genuine grand trine with Jupiter & Pluto with Asc would indicate to me a strong constitution capable of responding well to even the slightest good health measures compared to the rest of us. They'd also be a great aid to expressing yourself well, getting across to others.

posted December 01, 2017 05:27 PM            

In my chart below I have a tight watery grand trine of Moon-Mercury-Jupiter making a kite with Mars.

If you add in the ASC however, I have another involving the same grand trine planets but making a kite with my ASC, plus a lot of other dizzying pattern completion like a grand cross, mystic rectangle etc.

Which would be more prominent?

posted December 01, 2017 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:

Asc and MC can be part of a grand trine?

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I don't think they can, because points (like vertex, MC and AC, etc) aren't planetary bodies and thus they don't emit their own energy

in a grand trine, three planetary energies flow smoothly and this goes round and round as the circle never stops

but with a point, it stops there, because the point doesn't have its own energy to give back

you will feel the effect of any aspect to your points though,
for instance if you have MC trine some planet in a water sign, you may be attracted to artistic activities

the same with the AC,
a person with Mars trine their AC comes across as determined

posted December 01, 2017 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:

Could you explain briefly the effect of a grand trine in any element of the elements :fire,air,earth,water.

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a grand trine gives you effortless abilities when it comes to expressing the energies of that element

and grand trines involving a person's sun and/or moon are more powerful than the ones which may be formed for instance by saturn, uranus and pluto, all which move slowly

I have a water grand trine (moon, mars, pluto), you can say it gives effortless psychic abilities..at times I feel drained and need plenty of sleep and alone time, and I attribute that to the pisces moon..when I often see people get in trouble I get surprised, because it makes me wonder "how could they throw themselves into such a situation without seeing what's coming" or "how could they not see what's the truth behind this or that"..you can say it gives a hyper sixth sense, especially since two of them are also in water houses (4th and 12th, and moon at the end of the 8th, which some astrologers consider to be actually in the 9th)

I know this guy who has sun conjunct mars, venus and mercury in leo, trine saturn in sagittarius and jupiter in aries,
he's a very successful athlete, and super assertive of course!

knew another guy who had a taurus moon trine neptune/uranus in cap trine something else I don't remember in virgo, I think mars or jupiter,
he was a very cool and calm person (for one who also had a t-square of moon, venus and pluto with a leo venus at the apex), true he is a libra sun, but he was very stable, grounded and yep financially super rich because he was born rich