posted January 24, 2018 01:32 AM            

According to the site, the 8th house relates to how we have met and subsequently deal with psychological issues that linger in the psyche.

The 8th house cultivates the "darker" side or more defensive persona which we felt necessary to have in order to survive the early hurt/pain experienced.

It is about being resourceful. But it is also about healing because it governs the path to intimacy we believe resonates and relieves those said wounds/hurt.

Neptune in 8th suggests being victimized or having your voice suppressed. The psychological issue could be related to people either transgressing boundaries with you. Or you being confused as to what's happening,why its happening and who is doing it etc. Thereby personal dissociation results.

In later years this can manifest as the seat of intimacy being that you are not sure or assertive about what you want from the partner i.e confusion about sexuality, going along with what the partner wants, being victimised sexually or victimising others, not beinb able to draw boundaries with sexual partners,dissociating from sexual feelings or searching for that perfect euphoric experience when intimate.

You may learn to easily "serve" other's needs and suppress yours thereby echoing the early conditioning of people who may have muted your feelings so that what they want from you for can manifest.

An attraction towards those with a "fluid" approach to intimacy, a certain kind of naivety/ innocence to intimacy or those flexible about male/female roles in intimate settings may appeal. Sex can be a spiritual and cathartic experience.

Your strength: You can be extremely open minded with intimacy and be non judgmental.

posted January 24, 2018 01:42 AM            

I agree we can't just make definitions and meanings. However if you know anything about life. Life is about change and the only thing constant in life is change.

While we much respect what is established we also need to be innovative and forward thinking.

Have you ever read Liz Green's Saturn, A New Look at an Old Devil? She put her own, more modern interpretation on a planet (Saturn) that ancient astrology classified as malefic/bad.

Are you saying that astrologers can't interpret a planet in a more modern up to date way? That we must stick to what is established and that's it?

Honestly that train of thinking is ignorant.

As I said before octaves are plausible and I am not here to convince you or tell you what you want to believe. In this matter I believe what I believe and so do you.

What do you mean by? "Venus does not ONLY rule over Libra or Taurus" Explain.

Taurus exalted in Moon just means that it's in the best. Taurus is a fixed earth sign. It is stable and even emotions. It's earthy and grounded. By the way your point doesn't make sense because in this context, the moon has nothing to do materialism.

If you take Taurus out of the moon and put it anywhere else it is not an emotional sign. So that really isn't a point.

Bestial signs are signs ruled by animals with four legs. (Aries, Taurus, Leo and Capricorn are all bestial signs). Using your logic then the sign Capricorn "indicates all manners of passions and emotions". I disagree and your point doesn't make any sense.

posted January 24, 2018 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Astrofiend:
@KarkaQueen:

I agree we can't just make definitions and meanings. However if you know anything about life. Life is about change and the only thing constant in life is change.

While we much respect what is established we also need to be innovative and forward thinking.

Have you ever read Liz Green's Saturn, A New Look at an Old Devil? She put her own, more modern interpretation on a planet (Saturn) that ancient astrology classified as malefic/bad.

Are you saying that astrologers can't interpret a planet in a more modern up to date way? That we must stick to what is established and that's it?

Honestly that train of thinking is ignorant.

As I said before octaves are plausible and I am not here to convince you or tell you what you want to believe. In this matter I believe what I believe and so do you.

What do you mean by? "Venus does not ONLY rule over Libra or Taurus" Explain.

Taurus exalted in Moon just means that it's in the best. Taurus is a fixed earth sign. It is stable and even emotions. It's earthy and grounded. By the way your point doesn't make sense because in this context, the moon has nothing to do materialism.

If you take Taurus out of the moon and put it anywhere else it is not an emotional sign. So that really isn't a point.

Bestial signs are signs ruled by animals with four legs. (Aries, Taurus, Leo and Capricorn are all bestial signs). Using your logic then the sign Capricorn "indicates all manners of passions and emotions". I disagree and your point doesn't make any sense.

Why do you see Neptune as "more negative and far sinister than the good Venus"?

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You are the type to call people ignorant, close minded, and judgmental for not agreeing with you and I'm not down with that. You don't sound like you're ready for a debate without disrespecting me or my opinions which to be honest, ****** me off.

How would you like it if I called you irrational, childish, and crap in your field of study? Which to be honest, I think you are, but I had more tact and sensibility to keep that to myself. smh.

I like exchanging of ideas, learning about new things, battle of the wits, and allofdat. I'm cool when I need to be but people can't just help to get their personal feelings in da puddle. It is what it is

posted January 24, 2018 01:54 AM            

That being said, facts are facts. I probably know more Astrology than you do.

I don't need to bring up the whole complex meanings of a house just to show off my knowledge so I'm only bringing up the relevant meanings for this conversation. If you WERE an adept, good Astrologer you would get that. But I guess you ain't.... so. Bye bye.

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@KarkaQueen: At this point, you are a lost cause, I truly feel sorry for you.

I am trying to have a discussion with you and you are insulting me. I stated several times. I don't mind disagreements but clearly you do. I stand by everything I have said and will say.

It's funny how you are saying I am "very emotionally charged and borderline irrational" when a couple paragraphs down later you are attacking my astrology skills. I would call that pretty emotional and irrational.

Whatever the case I am done with you. Enjoy yourself and have a beautiful night/day hunnity.

posted January 24, 2018 02:00 AM            

So you gonna pretend you didn't start by calling me simplistic, black and white thinking, then ignorant?

You are a weirdo.

Yall really think yall can get away with attacking people.

posted January 24, 2018 02:01 AM            

Yes a new fresh perspective!!!

I definitely agree the 8th house is "more psychological and deep". I like this interpretation.

posted January 24, 2018 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I'm honestly not really offended or mad. I'm just tired and don't feel like being spammed with this. I do not mean to start arguments or scathing wordplays with anyone on this site. Sorry if I offended anyone but this has gotten a bit childish for my liking.

Hopefully, Randall or Kannon will close the thread. Again, good night to all.

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@capricorncheriscty: awww I like this thread!!! You don't have to apologize, you didn't offend me. I love hearing other people's perspectives.

posted January 24, 2018 02:13 AM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I am well aware the 8th house is other people's resources. Actors and singers and socialites and writers and such and such of the Neptunian 8th life make other people's money through their Neptunian pursuits. Again, I feel like that was not very hard to understand...

The thing with the 2nd and 8th house is that they both are where we draw income. The differentiation is that 2nd house is merely the house where we tend to draw money into ourselves rather than sharing it with others. The 8th house is where we gather money and tend to share it with others. If you read my original post with a little less frustration and bias I think you would've seen I made this point once or twice, albeit in different phrasing. Neptune = altruistic planet, rules Hollywood 8th = bringing in personal income, often shared. Notice how a lot of the Neptune in 8th house people I listed garner a lot of money out of survival instincts and then *gasp* share it FREQUENTLY through massive donations and other altruistic means? That is literally all I was saying.

Several of the people on that list I included have earned **** ton amounts of money to their name easily but instead of hoarding it to themselves they quite often have dispersed it to family and friends and charities. SHARED INCOME. I said this so many times already.

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posted January 24, 2018 02:18 AM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I'm honestly not really offended or mad. I'm just tired and don't feel like being spammed with this. I do not mean to start arguments or scathing wordplays with anyone on this site. Sorry if I offended anyone but this has gotten a bit childish for my liking.

Hopefully, Randall or Kannon will close the thread. Again, good night to all.

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Messageboards are called message boards for a reason. This is an Astrology Forum. Disagreements and all civil discourse are allowed.

Frankly on here (and on the internet in general now) a lot of people take things too personally in a way that is weird and overly sensitive. Since when is saying "I disagree" being close minded and trolly?

The internet is not your personal hugbox..

posted January 24, 2018 02:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Astrofiend:
@Aries23Degrees:

Yes a new fresh perspective!!!

I definitely agree the 8th house is "more psychological and deep". I like this interpretation.

I have personal planets in the 8th House (Sun and Mercury) and I have Pisces in the 8th, so I definately resonate with this.

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More psychological and deep is vague. I don't get why you're so opposed to more straightforward interpretations. The adoption of straightforward interpretations lead me to interpret every kind of Astrology chart more accurately with more finesse.

posted January 28, 2018 01:58 PM            

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I still need proof of Neptune being the higher octave of Venus. Where did this come from?

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I think people trash this placement too much. Really, I think the 8th house is just very misunderstood. From what I've seen, all of these people are soo good at making money doing Neptunian things. Singing, dancing, modeling, acting, being a socialite, politics or philosophy, literature, etc...It's literally like money just comes out of other people's pockets and into their own when they have this placement.

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I don't think all the things listed by you are Neptunian and the only one I see as mainly Neptunian is acting. Secondly, it could be all the people you know (of) with this placement but there are way more people you don't and won't know who have it and will never make big, if any money through Neptunian endeavors. Lastly, I'd sooner attribute it to Neptune in the 2nd house.

It just came to my mind that the easiest, ultra Neptunian way to make a fortune could be running a fake charity. If I inspired someone, you're welcome

posted January 28, 2018 02:08 PM            

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I don't think all the things listed by you are Neptunian and the only one I see as mainly Neptunian is acting. Secondly, it could be all the people you know (of) with this placement but there are way more people you don't and won't know who have it and will never make big, if any money through Neptunian endeavors. Lastly, I'd sooner attribute it to Neptune in the 2nd house.

It just came to my mind that the easiest, ultra Neptunian way to make a fortune could be running a fake charity. If I inspired someone, you're welcome

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Yea, but you have to consider the higher octave theory goes for all the Outer Planets, I debunk it simply because of the mere fact the sign Uranus rules over (Aquarius) is not exalted in Mercury, but is still considered a higher octave of Uranus. Why can you find the apparent linkage between Venus and Neptune by manner of exaltation of ruling signs, but not for Mars & Pluto, and Uranus & Mercury? So how are the latter determined then?

Also, Venus has been exalted in Pisces since before the discovery of Neptune.

posted January 28, 2018 02:49 PM            

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Also, Venus has been exalted in Pisces since before the discovery of Neptune.

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the sign Uranus rules over (Aquarius) is not exalted in Mercury

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Personally, I don't take this stuff too seriously, exaltations included. For example, I'm not here to fawn over Pisces Venus (unless someone pays me...kidding).

posted January 28, 2018 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
HmmMm... is anyone else here having Neptune transiting their 8th and trying to survive as an artist?

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posted January 28, 2018 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by arcturus90:
Hello yeah Neptune is transiting my 8th house since a few months only or one year, and I thought about this recently (or just since a few months)

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posted January 28, 2018 04:51 PM            

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Same! It's been about a year, and for the past month I've been starting to think I might not have to get a job. Lol. One can dream... & try.
Funny my other friend with Leo rising is doing the same thing, in this amorphous place of trying to make art + desiring to live joblessly

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No I didn't think about living joylessly (or I don't think so)... Maybe having a real job and also to make something artistic, writing, not for money, but earn money through this though.

posted February 11, 2018 03:18 PM            

i happen to have this placement, and did some reading on it, and what i read mostly had to do with partners finances and shared finances could be "fuzzy", and that i could have troubles with getting inheretance, as well as drowning, as 8th house is the house of death, especially in a water sign.
Luckily for me my Neptune is in great aspects with my personal planets-Sun,Mars and Venus and outer planet,Pluto..so in my case it gives me a strong intuition.

as far as Neptune being the high octave of Venus, it is!! just like Pluto is the higher octave of Mars.
these pairings are evident.

Thank you for doing this thread!!!

posted February 17, 2018 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Sandra018:
Glad to see this thread getting back on the subject at hand- Neptune in the 8th.

i happen to have this placement, and did some reading on it, and what i read mostly had to do with partners finances and shared finances could be "fuzzy", and that i could have troubles with getting inheretance, as well as drowning, as 8th house is the house of death, especially in a water sign.
Luckily for me my Neptune is in great aspects with my personal planets-Sun,Mars and Venus and outer planet,Pluto..so in my case it gives me a strong intuition.

as far as Neptune being the high octave of Venus, it is!! just like Pluto is the higher octave of Mars.
these pairings are evident.

Thank you for doing this thread!!!

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