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Topic: Forgiveness issues
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Desiring Shadows
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From: North Pole
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posted June 28, 2018 01:04 AM
  
I could and should but I doubt they’ll reply and I don’t even want to find out whether they will or won’t. I basically just told them I’m blocking them I don’t want to be their friend and not to try and contact me because I’m done being their friend. And then I blocked the number.
It would be like upsetting if they didn’t respond at all. No response hurts more than a bad one imo.I mean there is a chance in the future when they got married I’d be a bridesmaid but I don’t have that many friends right now and they’re not there for me. Not even checking up on me. So forget them. Terrible people.
I try not to put out negative energy into the universe but sometimes I do release it so I don’t combust or explode. Otherwise I try and fix the energy I send out because I know it goes in a circle. I hurt you you hurt the next person they hurt someone else and so on.. we are a collective consciousness IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows
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posted June 28, 2018 01:10 AM
In one of the systems I do have scorpio energy but I guess I’m just evolvedand in the other I don’t but I switch between systems.
I believe in one system but to the rest of the world including another so I gotta be fluid to preserve my sanity IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted June 28, 2018 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I could and should but I doubt they’ll reply and I don’t even want to find out whether they will or won’t. I basically just told them I’m blocking them I don’t want to be their friend and not to try and contact me because I’m done being their friend. And then I blocked the number.
It would be like upsetting if they didn’t respond at all. No response hurts more than a bad one imo.I mean there is a chance in the future when they got married I’d be a bridesmaid but I don’t have that many friends right now and they’re not there for me. Not even checking up on me. So forget them. Terrible people.
I try not to put out negative energy into the universe but sometimes I do release it so I don’t combust or explode. Otherwise I try and fix the energy I send out because I know it goes in a circle. I hurt you you hurt the next person they hurt someone else and so on.. we are a collective consciousness
I was also joking. But that shadow/Pluto side of me does exist in my unconscious mind. Yeah, it's smart not to contact them. They'll just not reply and then a person, like you, will feel bad.
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Desiring Shadows
Newflake Posts: 2
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posted June 28, 2018 08:23 AM
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Randall
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posted July 03, 2018 09:45 PM
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Orange
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posted July 03, 2018 09:52 PM
Virgos are notorious on holding a grudge, especially Virgo men.
I don't plan or seek revenges but usually people who did me wrong ONCE are dead to me, I tend to remove people out of my life like there is no tomorrow, the list is so long... and it's getting longer...
sometimes I will accept some of them back into my life but deep in my mind I still hold the grudge and when something bad happens to them, I think "you finally got what you deserved, b**ch"...I just cant seem to be able to forgive. GAH.IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted July 04, 2018 03:54 AM
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Virgos are notorious on holding a grudge, especially Virgo men.
I don't plan or seek revenges but usually people who did me wrong ONCE are dead to me, I tend to remove people out of my life like there is no tomorrow, the list is so long... and it's getting longer...
sometimes I will accept some of them back into my life but deep in my mind I still hold the grudge and when something bad happens to them, I think "you finally got what you deserved, b**ch"...I just cant seem to be able to forgive. GAH.
Forgiveness doesn't mean forgetting, or excusing. Maybe that means you already have forgiven them?
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Pluviophile123
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From: Texas
Registered: Sep 2018
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posted January 18, 2020 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Scorpio/8th House/Pluto.
Yupppppp or actually I can “forgive” but definitely can’t forget and if I can’t forget a transgression that’s been done to me then I may not hate someone over it but I will remove them from my life if I feel the next transgression has the potential to really devastate me IP: Logged |
moongaze
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posted January 19, 2020 01:48 AM
I find this pretty amusing because I have a heavy Cancer chart in addition to Pluto in Scorpio in the 8th house with little to no air/fire, and if anything, I forgive a little too easily. I can't hold a grudge to save my life. Although, I won't argue against Cancer placements, I have seen that in action. However, my Moon in Pisces makes no negative aspects to other planets, making an exact trine to Pluto with another close trine to Mercury in Cancer. Aries Ascendant usually helps in getting over things rather quickly too. But I agree with never being able to forget things. I keep tabs on that stuff. And I can move on from people really quickly and not look back. In my experience, I've usually encountered this the most in those those with heavy Scorpio placements, especially the Moon in Scorpio. Also, I'm saying this based on own past involvement with others. Maybe I just haven't met someone annoying enough to hold a grudge towards yet.  IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted January 22, 2020 12:51 AM
Sign wise, Pisces is the most forgiving archetype there is. With Jupiter in the 1st/closest Planet to ASC, Pisces S. Node in the 7th, and strong Neptune, I've tended to be rather forgiving. I'm not surprised that someone with non stressed Pisces Moon would describe themselves as rather forgiving despite Scorpio etc. placements. Hmmm, someone I care deeply about has very late Scorp Moon closely conjunct very early Sag Pluto (and this conjunction is widely conjunct her IC) She seems to hold onto pain/wounding quite a lot, especially unconsciously. She also has a conjunction of Pisces Venus to Pisces Saturn in the 7th--and Saturn rules her 5th House via Cap on that cusp. There is this weird dichotomy with her, in that she is very deeply sensitive, caring, deep feelinged, but because there is so much fear, fixity, and tendency to unconsciously to hold onto hurt, she goes to the opposite extreme and becomes like a female Spock where she represses her emotions/feelings quite effectively and consistently and tries to live completely from her head/intellect--(she also has Virgo Rising, with the ruler, Mercury conjunct her South Node). Course this is not a natural or healthy state of being for any person, let alone someone connected to a female body, and so occasionally the repressed feelings erupt from the unconscious and sometimes in extreme or overly exaggerated ways. Like for example, she might not cry for a long time, and then one day, something minor happens and she just sobs and sobs all day. Her Scorp Moon Sag Pluto conjunction falls in my 4th House and conjuncts my Scorp Uranus, ruler of my 7th and Venus. It seems we bring out difficult, extreme (both highs and lows), and heavy feelings in each other, and yet deep down below that, there is a sense of closeness and kinship that is very deep and very spiritual. Though we are separated, I occasionally have dreams about her--most often communicating with each other from a more heart level. I have a very strong intuitive feeling that she is also having dreams about me. But good lord she is fixed and stubborn as all heck. It's going to take an extreme tower cycle to shake her up and get her out of herself and this emotional constipation and fear that she locks herself in so much of the time. Did I mention she's an 8th House Aries Sun closely cusping Taurus and conjunct the chart ruler, Mercury, which in early Taurus conjunct Taurus S. Node and this conjunction is closely square Uranus barely in Aquarius. And the ruler of her Sun and 8th and co-ruler of her Moon, Mars, is in mid Leo? All that Taurus, Scorpio, Leo, Sun, Uranus, and Pluto combo (and combined with strong Aries and 8th House) going on... More stubborn and self willed than than a friqqen mule. Such people, if they are older Souls underneath the personality, do not tend to learn their lessons easily, but tend to have life via their Expanded self, whack them upside the head with 2x4's to get their attention. Nothing short of that tends to reach them. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted January 22, 2020 02:17 AM
I usually forgive too easily, like moongaze. If I’m having trouble getting past something, there’s a good reason for it. I’m not out for revenge, and don’t enjoy hearing that someone is having a bad time of it. I’m an Aries/Gemini/Scorpio. Mars in Pisces, with the supposedly scary moon/Venus square mars. IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss
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From: Virginia, US
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posted January 22, 2020 05:32 AM
I've never really had a problem with forgiveness and I have a scorpio stellium BUT, I have and will cut you off 100% without ever looking back. I think scorpio is about learning how to forgive, let go, and move on without the need for revenge or pettiness. Just rise above it. With that said, I never ever forget. IP: Logged |
Pluviophile123
Knowflake Posts: 86
From: Texas
Registered: Sep 2018
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posted January 22, 2020 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I've never really had a problem with forgiveness and I have a scorpio stellium BUT, I have and will cut you off 100% without ever looking back. I think scorpio is about learning how to forgive, let go, and move on without the need for revenge or pettiness. Just rise above it. With that said, I never ever forget.
I think that’s evolved Scorpio (and probably many other placements) too. Cut your losses, be appreciative for the lesson and learn from it to prevent the same mistake in the future. Even if I permanently cut contact with you, no hard feelings. Just keep a limited number of people with access to me. IP: Logged |
AriesLilith
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posted January 22, 2020 10:09 AM
Nessus. It can be very unforgiving, holding grudges and feeling wronged while not realizing the consequences and responsibilities of their own part.IP: Logged |
mourningfire
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posted January 22, 2020 09:05 PM
Water signs, period. They're emotionally-driven so they tend to take things personally more frequently than other signs and have a hard time getting over things. Seems to be a common characteristic amongst Cancer-influenced ppl most of all, generally speaking. I find it's very easy for them to take things to heart, and, bc they have high expectations and well-established boundaries, they'll bring up something that bothered them a year later, demanding an explanation or throwing it in that person's face (if it's not the first time they've discussed it). They tend to be "open" when they're upset, in that they don't really have a problem making the other person aware that they've upset them. Which is unlike Scorpios who suffer in silence and Pisces who could react in many different ways depending on the circumstances. Fixed signs also have a hard time forgiving ime. I have a Taurus moon in the 4th house conjunct my IC and square my mars in Leo. I don't forget and I don't forgive, generally speaking, UNLESS that forgiveness is earned. But it can only be earned for very little things. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted January 22, 2020 09:39 PM
I once held a grudge for 20 years. I then made the foolish mistake of finally forgiving this person and they betrayed me again. As a result, I got revenge. I have Sun in Gemini, but both my rising and moon are in Capricorn. My chart ruler is Saturn in Scorpio. Pluto and Saturn dominate my chart, which don't help. IP: Logged |
ScandinavianCrab
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posted January 23, 2020 01:31 AM
I know someone who cant let go at all, even when shes perfectly aware about how the grudges limits her in her daily and overall life. This person has a Leo stellium in 4th house and the Leo moon is, with a few minutes of arc, squaring Pluto in Scorpio.
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Dons2angelss
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posted January 23, 2020 08:45 AM
The person I know who will hold a grudge and is insanely spiteful has a taurus sun and capricorn moon. He was so unforgiving and downright hateful at times too. I know one other with a pisces sun and cap moon who had similar traits. IP: Logged |
Pluviophile123
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posted January 23, 2020 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I know someone who cant let go at all, even when shes perfectly aware about how the grudges limits her in her daily and overall life. This person has a Leo stellium in 4th house and the Leo moon is, with a few minutes of arc, squaring Pluto in Scorpio.
I assume she takes everything very very personally! 🤷♀️ I too used to be this way until one day it finally clicked and I realized EVERYHING ISNT ALWAYS ABOUR ME, lol. Like more than half the things people do to you are not intentional, and has way more to do with their own personal world and therefore shouldn’t carry so much weight in relationships/the outside world IP: Logged |
Pluviophile123
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posted January 23, 2020 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
The person I know who will hold a grudge and is insanely spiteful has a taurus sun and capricorn moon. He was so unforgiving and downright hateful at times too. I know one other with a pisces sun and cap moon who had similar traits.
Lol, that Capricorn energy... 😏
Capricorn isn’t the strongest in my chart but I still relate to it a lot (cappy Venus Saturn conjunct in 11th house). And yes spiteful is a word that I once would have used to describe myself. When I was younger, if I didn’t like you/had been hurt by you as a person, I did not let you think otherwise. I would do and say very mean things to make it to where the other person never wanted to be around me again 😣 I look back and cringe at how mean I was at times....
Granted, I’m sure the rest my chart shows those tendencies too (!), but I know the cappy has a lot to do with it IP: Logged |
ScandinavianCrab
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posted January 23, 2020 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by Pluviophile123:
I assume she takes everything very very personally! 🤷♀️ I too used to be this way until one day it finally clicked and I realized EVERYHING ISNT ALWAYS ABOUR ME, lol. Like more than half the things people do to you are not intentional, and has way more to do with their own personal world and therefore shouldn’t carry so much weight in relationships/the outside world
OH yes. Speaking around her is like walking on egg shells. People around her obviously gets exhausted by it and even her sisters some times "forgets" to invite her for gatherings etc.
Its really sad. So much potential, all wasted down in a drain of emotions.
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hearttreasure
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posted January 23, 2020 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
The person I know who will hold a grudge and is insanely spiteful has a taurus sun and capricorn moon. He was so unforgiving and downright hateful at times too. I know one other with a pisces sun and cap moon who had similar traits.
Libra sun and Capricorn moon, unfortunately, is my younger sister. Leo sun and Capricorn moon, unfortunately, is my brother. Gemini sun and Capricorn moon, unfortunately, is my husband. Aries sun and Capricorn moon, thank God, he showed me those traits earlier and I said no to his imnediate proposed and be friended until now, but look at me now with a Capricorn moon husband. They made me mastering how to handle their spitefullness. Among 4 of them I know the closest, the Gemini sun is less cold and easily drawn to sob story because his Moon conjunct Neptune. The closest to them about forgiveness issues I've found is Scorpio moon or Moon/Pluto especially the hard aspect. They never let go but can act like one. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure
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posted January 23, 2020 02:20 PM
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Randall
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posted January 26, 2020 04:18 PM
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Dons2angelss
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posted January 26, 2020 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Libra sun and Capricorn moon, unfortunately, is my younger sister. Leo sun and Capricorn moon, unfortunately, is my brother. Gemini sun and Capricorn moon, unfortunately, is my husband. Aries sun and Capricorn moon, thank God, he showed me those traits earlier and I said no to his imnediate proposed and be friended until now, but look at me now with a Capricorn moon husband. They made me mastering how to handle their spitefullness. Among 4 of them I know the closest, the Gemini sun is less cold and easily drawn to sob story because his Moon conjunct Neptune. The closest to them about forgiveness issues I've found is Scorpio moon or Moon/Pluto especially the hard aspect. They never let go but can act like one.
Yes that capricorn moon is no joke. I've met a few that I ran from lol.
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