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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted January 27, 2020 02:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I've known and know some decent to mostly lovely folks with Capricorn Moon, I don't think it's enough that in and of itself, that we can make such generalizations about folks with Capricorn Moons all being grudge holding, Ebeneezer Scrooge types.

In a context of say very strong and stressed Saturn, Mars, Mercury, and/or Pluto, with a lack of highlighting of Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, and Venus, and/or a very strong emphasis on the personal signs otherwise, then yes, maybe there might be a pattern to be found with such Moon placements.

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posted January 27, 2020 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend from high school is a Capricorn Moon. She doesn't hold grudges. I know some lovely Cappy moons, one is a long-term friend from this site, although she hasn't posted for years.

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posted January 28, 2020 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are in their good side, you probably are saved.

Once not, Cap mooners are side by side with Moon in Scorpio or Moon/Pluto hard aspect.

Try to be their closest buddy (which is not an easy to), you'll see, it can be the worst.

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posted January 28, 2020 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
If you are in their good side, you probably are saved.

Once not, Cap mooners are side by side with Moon in Scorpio or Moon/Pluto hard aspect.

Try to be their closest buddy (which is not an easy to), you'll see, it can be the worst.


I’ve had that experience with a couple of Cappy suns, so I do know what you’re getting at. You try to tell someone what you’ve experienced with them, and they look at you like you’ve got two heads, because not many people get to see that side of them. They can also be some of the most generous people, though. I have a number of Capricorns in my family.

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posted January 28, 2020 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are talking about forgiveness issues anyway..

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posted January 28, 2020 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap moon and AC here. It has to be extremely serious for me to not forgive completely. I was sexually assaulted in my twenties but I've forgiven that messed up guy. It makes me sad that people are so sick in this world, but I hope his soul finds the Light.

That being said, I watch people and see them in a realistic light. If someone has proven to not be a "nice" person, I won't put myself in a position to allow them to spew more of their poisonous energy my way or toward my loved ones. That I will not allow.

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posted January 28, 2020 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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We are talking about forgiveness issues anyway..

I know. That's where my own forgiveness issue comes in - with the husband of a Capricorn who abused me on his behalf. I didn't want to be around him, so she can't forgive me. I'm not sure that I could forgive her again. I'm more careful with people in general, but she was family.

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posted February 04, 2020 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 04, 2020 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unwillingness to forgive is a sign of immaturity not the stars

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posted February 08, 2020 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 08, 2020 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think God has to really help you forgive. I don't think people can really do it without Him.

I have seen all kinds of charts in people who don't forgive, TRULY forgive, not just words.

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posted February 09, 2020 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Unwillingness to forgive is a sign of immaturity not the stars

I think it depends on what happened, and depends on the other person, too.

I've never needed anyone's God to help me forgive someone.

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posted February 13, 2020 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think astrology can give a verdict on the topic of forgiveness. Logically it has to be Pisces, they're the most empathic, spiritual of signs. But Pisces is so sensitive that they also get hurt more and sooner than other signs. And I believe that forgiveness only happens after you're no longer in pain, not the other way round. You cannot forgive if you are still hurting..or at least I don't see how that is possible. Once we no longer care, we've cried out all tears, gone through all stages of hell and come out close to being reborn, we forgive. We don't forget, but we forgive. So it just depends on how long the person is in pain, how long the healing of the wound takes.

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posted February 13, 2020 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I wanted to add that it also depends on what you are forgiving for. I was emotionally abused for example. I'm now at that stage where I'm close to not caring as much as before about what happened, not dwelling on it to be more precise. I feel like I can forgive him but what's stopping me is that I think I should not. Somehow in my head it just feels like forgiving someone for doing something terrible is like saying yeah, what you did is ok. And it's not! Abuse of any form is not ok, rape is not ok, murder is not ok, betrayal is not ok. Some things are just unforgiveable.

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posted February 13, 2020 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think God has to really help you forgive. I don't think people can really do it without Him.


Are you saying atheists don't have the capacity to forgive Ami?

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posted February 13, 2020 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BunnyAria3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio (moon)
8th house
Heavy Pluto
Capricorn

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posted February 20, 2020 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 20, 2020 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Saturn/Capricorn is related if Saturn is related to Karma.

Some of us are exempt from Karma, if forgiven of a specific wrongdoing and amends are made where possible.

A person with a relatively clear conscience knows what a wrongdoing is.

One of the traps of being offended by a wrongdoing is having resentment.

Resentment is wrong so one should be forgiven for resenting a person that wronged us.

It could be counter-intuitive.

Not forgiving someone can negatively affect our conscience as well as resentment.

So I'd say Saturn in Water or the opposite of Saturn in Water.


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posted February 20, 2020 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Unwillingness to forgive is a sign of immaturity not the stars

Or it could be someone that doesn't have a relatively clear conscience.

In other words, their conscience doesn't bother them.

A conscience can become dull if wrongdoings are not removed.

It can also become seared and quenched, which are much worse conditions.

It's easier to commit wrongdoings as the offenses accumulate if not forgiven.

The conscience can also be isolated and operated on in a positive manner.

It's usually a requirement before being spiritually awakened and/or born again in Spirit.

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posted February 25, 2020 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 25, 2020 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireAndEarth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe sun square Jupiter in fixed signs particularly.

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posted March 03, 2020 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 27, 2024 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptuneNodeVertexConjunct     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
I have a Scorpio Moon/Asc/Uranus. 2 planets in my 8H and 3 in 12H.

Maybe I am an unevolved Scorpio as they say.

I havent seen or spoken to my mother in 20 years. She abused my physically/emotional
/psychologically and sexually in my childhood. Also Moon in my 12H. I think I would physically harm her if I did.

I plan on wanting revenge on things that happen but thats just short term then I just get over it and move on.

Except that time when my heart was shattered into a million pieces. Then I just destroyed lives in the processes. Mainly because they thought they could get away with threatening, intimidating and bullying me, so had to set them straight.

I'm the Queen f u c k i n g B itch.

Some people just need to learn that the hard way.

So maybe a bit of grudge holding on there


This post is like so old, but look up articles on the Hades Moon, Moon in Scorpio. You are supposed to be cut off from your mother. Me, my mother and my daughter all have Moon in Scorpio. You were born on a karmic contract with your mother to break a family curse and you have to be cut off from her. But, you should forgive her anyway because it will help with your healing. You probably have already. The Forgiveness Workbook is very good. I have given one to everyone in my family and most of my friends. Anyone with moon in Scorpio or Leo needs this workbook, or something to help them to forgive. It was written by Ilene S Cohen, PhD

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posted October 27, 2024 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptuneNodeVertexConjunct     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I have no connection to this book or Ilene Cohen, in fact I am working on my own workbook, but forgiveness is very important. Why do you think Jesus was all about forgiveness. We are leaving the age of Neptune people, if you want to move on, you must learn the lessons of Neptune which include forgivness and compassion. My workbook btw is on Etsy, ButterflyUniverse. Neptune has taken over my life. I am all about forgivness and divine wisdom. I am a sun and mercury in Gemini, so just trying to do my job as Messenger. lol

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posted November 17, 2024 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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