posted August 16, 2018 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I will be easy breezy and super charming, happy go lucky in the beginning of the getting to know you phase.
Venus-Jup. node in ARIES 8th. Mars-Moon stellium in GEMINI.

I will be a huntress but I will let you lead, When I see you like me as much as I like you, I will be warm and in aries mood. Also I will act out my 8th house stellium by mixing forwardness and ”creating” opportunities where I place myself in your orbit and with an inviting smile make you come to me. See subtle huntress haha.

But then after some time I will start to have vertain expectations.(venus-saturn). If you don’t meet my expectations, or if you act cold and I sense you are playing with me, I will be a hot-cold-hot-cold mess.
Moon-saturn-uranus-mars.

I will be super sensetive and take everything personally. I will sometimes for a few days give silent treatments.

Then I will start to try to subtly talk about my emotions and expectations (gemini moon). And then dispair and be a total mess of emotions- sad, cold, depressed etc when you seem to not get me... I will get obsessed and also have severe depression. Saturn-pluto.

I will know you are not good for me, but I will hold on to what we were before all that mess (venus-neptune illusions). And also resent you bc I will feel you are on purpose holding back your good selfe from me. And I will be mad at you for that bc what did I do to deserve that?! I am worth more then this! Have I not been the most generous and giving person ever to you?! Ig you won’t put in nearly the same effort in this relationship, bye! (Venus-saturn).

But also, one sincere apology or a warm smile, and I will forgive you on the spot, no grudges! (gemini-aries?)

Well you tell me if I’m dateable or not, lol I even turned this light hearted thread to an angry sobbing mess ahahah (

Gee why can I not always be in venus Aries mood?!

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posted August 16, 2018 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
I do the hot-cold thing too, and also do the silent treatment. I nag a lot when I'm feeling bleh!

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posted August 16, 2018 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
I do the hot-cold thing too, and also do the silent treatment. I nag a lot when I'm feeling bleh!

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posted August 16, 2018 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
The anxiety will come and go for a looong time after the ”break up”. Often for years...

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posted August 16, 2018 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
But then after some time I will start to have certain expectations.(venus-saturn). If you don’t meet my expectations, or if you act cold and I sense you are playing with me, I will be a hot-cold-hot-cold mess.
Moon-saturn-uranus-mars.!

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posted August 16, 2018 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Libra Moon and Venus....I want romance romance romance. Classic and beautiful, with nothing crass. Give me a fairytale!!

Now, who can keep that up for a lifetime?

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posted August 16, 2018 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Lol...ehmmm a Sun-Neptune person?

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posted August 16, 2018 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Ha! Good to know! Any Sun-Neptune people out there?

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posted August 16, 2018 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Lol...ehmmm a Sun-Neptune person?

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posted August 16, 2018 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Won’t they be disappointed once “life” comes knocking??

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posted August 16, 2018 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I do the silent treatment when I am seething. But afterwards, I spew venom!

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This. You are a Cancer Moon right? I feel like the "silent treatment" part of it is necessary for a water moon. The processing of emotions is key to understanding them, and that silent retreat to process them can be aggravating for the other party.

I think it also depends on the company you keep. I am a Scorpio Moon and when I am with my family (Mom in particular) I let it ALL hang out and very passionately at that. If I don't like or don't agree with something, they will hear about it! (I also have Mars in the 4th so maybe that has something to do with it...).

posted August 16, 2018 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
This. You are a Cancer Moon right? I feel like the "silent treatment" part of it is necessary for a water moon. The processing of emotions is key to understanding them, and that silent retreat to process them can be aggravating for the other party.

I think is also depends on the company you keep. I am a Scorpio Moon and when I am with my family (Mom in particular) I let it ALL hang out and very passionately at that. If I don't like or don't agree with something, they will hear about it! (I also have Mars in the 4th so maybe that has something to do with it...).

With an intimate partner however...silence. That is until I've had a chance to process everything I've felt and even then I won't reveal the full story. I'll give out just enough to ease the situation and divert the attention away from me. I am no stranger to a mind game here and there and sometimes I can't even believe how manipulative I can get (Gemini Sun so at my core I'm pretty easy going). *Sigh*

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Guilty as charged(Cancer Moon). And I can relate to all that you have said.

I also have Mars squaring the Mc/Ic axis and my Moon. Am very outspoken at home.

Its a volatile house but tricky as my sister (whom I stay with) has Pluto there. And she can be EXTRA!! So sometimes I don't fan the flame.

She often burns things she cooks. And even now, there is a smell of burned mince permeating the house.

There is always some injustice issue we discuss ardently or political viewpoint that we don't agree with. Its a very opinionated house.

I am however not great with mind games. They just give me headaches As I prefer to lay cards on the table (it brings me relief).

And the only reason I can hold out on being protective of my feelings is because I feel self conscious and judged for being "weak" (Moon square Asc). But I DO want to clear the air and eventually do.

All you said there is very well articulated (which is typical of Gemini Sun). My emotional mind works exactly like that.

posted August 17, 2018 01:53 AM            

...Henny Youngman would never ask me to take his wife...

...rhe FDA would never approve my sale...

...carbon refuses to decay around me...

...but seriously folks...

Let's start with Chiron in the 5th. You could say that my player moves are "painful". Fortunately, with Mars in Taurus (and in the 7th, so detriment by both house and sign), I'm not going to be doing much chasing anyway. You'll have to come to me, or at least notice me first.

So, let's talk ascendant. Scorpio, of course. With Saturn trine, if you weren't intimidated enough. Venus is trine as well, so mirrors don't spontaneously crack when I look at them or anything. But you'll really have to look to notice. You see, I have Neptune in the first. It definitely helps soften the look, but it also hides. But it makes the eyes deep and dark and soft... Oh yeah, did I mention all three of these water placement planets are retrograde? Deep feelings I've got... But you'll probably miss it unless your watching. They tend to get turned inwards.

What you will see is probably my Gemini Sun and Leo Moon. They're septile. Sun septile moon is supposed to be a sign of a romantic, and with leo moon, well, it brings it right out. Not in a wine and candlelight way, but in an epic story kind of way. But here's the thing. Sun in the 8th, moon in the 10th. Moon on the mc can hide the personality a bit (but it's Leo!)... And sun in 8th, well, can be a bit private as well.

Now, you will never feel more paid attention to than when I'm paying attention to you. But I pay attention to other things too. Not other women, (Leo moon is too loyal for that!) rather like work and astrology and the game I'm playing on my phone and whatever else tumbles through my Gemini head. And suddenly, you think I'm not paying attention to you so something must be wrong... and now we have a problem. Only, you're not talking to me about it because of the Scorpio rising et al, and because my Mercury is stuck in its own Tsquare trap and you think your emotions are saying everything I need to know but all my water planets are Rx, and... and... and...

posted August 17, 2018 03:32 PM            

I don't envy the person who catches your fancy. You live in your head. And they are NOT invited.

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This sounds so much like me it's ridiculous! We have very similar aspects. The only different placement is I have a strong Aries Mars in my 10th house conjunct my Node, Eros, Eris, Nymphe and Bacchus. Yay me! Let's not mention that those make a wide square to my Venus in Capricorn and are exactly opposite my Libra Moon!

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Haha really My sympathies goes to you haha

posted August 18, 2018 04:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Guilty as charged(Cancer Moon). And I can relate to all that you have said.

I also have Mars squaring the Mc/Ic axis and my Moon. Am very outspoken at home.

Its a volatile house but tricky as my sister (whom I stay with) has Pluto there. And she can be EXTRA!! So sometimes I don't fan the flame.

She often burns things she cooks. And even now, there is a smell of burned mince permeating the house.

There is always some injustice issue we discuss ardently or political viewpoint that we don't agree with. Its a very opinionated house.

I am however not great with mind games. They just give me headaches As I prefer to lay cards on the table (it brings me relief).

And the only reason I can hold out on being protective of my feelings is because I feel self conscious and judged for being "weak" (Moon square Asc). But I DO want to clear the air and eventually do.

All you said there is very well articulated (which is typical of Gemini Sun). My emotional mind works exactly like that.

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Your sister and I are so alike haha! (we had similar birtcharts I remember?)
Me and one of my bros and our father always end up talking passionately about politics and moral, religioun and world order, injustice etc haha! (sagg is my 4th house)

LUCKILY we don't have different opinions! We have the same opinions, or well I can have a bit more extreme approach to things.

Hmm So the thing is, I have Moon conjunct my Mars. So that would give me, an arisified moon, and a moonisied (is that even a word?!) Mars. So my moon is like aries moon.
My mars is like Cancer mars etc... horrible combo ahhaah!

Its exactly like you describe yourself, seething. Its so toxic, or it feels like it. And I then get the compulsion to as you describe it "clear the air". 2 of my guy friends who does not know me that well, they were up for several weeks of me confessing and confronting things like "I asked you guys if we couldn't hang out after the project ending, but you didn't wanna, it really hurt me". They were like whuut?! When did you even ask it?!

And I was like "I did ask in 2 occasions, I said "so are we gonna celebrate the ending of the project somehow? We did it with my last group".. I thought you guys would catch on, on that". They were baffled. And I just kept on letting it all out bit for bit haha.

I thought it was the gemini moon, but moon is square my asc as in your case, so may it be that aswell?

But I can be very forward and just ask directly when I'm on aries mood. Its when we get so selfconcious, we wanna protect our feelings and hold back. Then we get mad and start seething and feel like "they are denying" you somehow.

And lets be honest, its not irrational "typical girl" thinking thing at all. Because in my heart I knew fo ex, "if they really wanna/wanted to hang out, they would have brought it up, so they just do not wanna hang out, its that simple, guys are that simple". Especially since one of the guys once spring 2017 when I said "its sad we won't see each other for a long while".. directly said "hey we can meet up in the summer!?".

So its not like they are stupid. So, Thats what made me feel rejected when they don't catch up or come up with the idea themselves.

posted August 18, 2018 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Most people in relationships(specifically at the start) care only about their heart being broken and can be very protective.

So if they suspect disinterest or a casual approach from you, they can disengage.

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Disengage yes, OR feel super entitled and get very mad at the person, and act it out as moodyness, irritation and anger.

posted August 18, 2018 07:30 AM            

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Your sister and I are so alike haha! (we had similar birtcharts I remember?)
Me and one of my bros and our father always end up talking passionately about politics and moral, religioun and world order, injustice etc haha! (sagg is my 4th house)

LUCKILY we don't have different opinions! We have the same opinions, or well I can have a bit more extreme approach to things.

Hmm So the thing is, I have Moon conjunct my Mars. So that would give me, an arisified moon, and a moonisied (is that even a word?!) Mars. So my moon is like aries moon.
My mars is like Cancer mars etc... horrible combo ahhaah!

Its exactly like you describe yourself, seething. Its so toxic, or it feels like it. And I then get the compulsion to as you describe it "clear the air". 2 of my guy friends who does not know me that well, they were up for several weeks of me confessing and confronting things like "I asked you guys if we couldn't hang out after the project ending, but you didn't wanna, it really hurt me". They were like whuut?! When did you even ask it?!

And I was like "I did ask in 2 occasions, I said "so are we gonna celebrate the ending of the project somehow? We did it with my last group".. I thought you guys would catch on, on that". They were baffled. And I just kept on letting it all out bit for bit haha.

I thought it was the gemini moon, but moon is square my asc as in your case, so may it be that aswell?

But I can be very forward and just ask directly when I'm on aries mood. Its when we get so selfconcious, we wanna protect our feelings and hold back. Then we get mad and start seething and feel like "they are denying" you somehow.

And lets be honest, its not irrational "typical girl" thinking thing at all. Because in my heart I knew fo ex, "if they really wanna/wanted to hang out, they would have brought it up, so they just do not wanna hang out, its that simple, guys are that simple". Especially since one of the guys once spring 2017 when I said "its sad we won't see each other for a long while".. directly said "hey we can meet up in the summer!?".

So its not like they are stupid. So, Thats what made me feel rejected when they don't catch up or come up with the idea themselves.

Anyways, the blurting out of the emotions and the things you have held in, does it help the relations you think? Or does it make people uncomfy and they wanna get away from you?

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It was scrumptious to read your response. Yes, I believe you and my sister are born days apart I think

The fear I had when young was falling out with people or not being well thought of.

As I get older, I am embracing the Moon-Mars square. As its too much effort to hold the anger in.

I think its honest, uncensored feelings. There is definitely something raw about it. But it can also be childlike-in that there is oversensitivity.

There is a guy who likes me. But I don't really feel much for him. Or at least I have not noticed him.

He is very handsome,attractive blah blah blah. But I find him " conventional " and uninteresting.

He is easily shocked and is very "green" when it comes to life experience (regardless of the fact that he is older than I am)

I notice that its the "rawness" he likes about me. He says I am sexy. I think its the Moon/Mars he sees. Perhaps even the Mars on my Asc? Can't be sure.

But he says, I bring "fire" into interactions. That I could be talking about something simple. But it sounds so exciting...hmmmm

In any case, I think that Mars adds passion that can spill over to aggression. If carried too far.

The Moon square Asc you spoke of is the inability to integrate the inner aspect of who you are(Moon) with your external experience(Asc)

People who have Moon conj Asc or Moon trine/sextile ascendant readily embrace the Moon and see their emotional expression as part of who they are.

They don't look with shame in as far as expressing their more "feminine" nature. Even the males will be emotionally expressive in their relationship. And they will not see this expression as negating their "manhood".

With the Moon-Asc square/opposition. The discomfort of your feelings " getting in the way" of you expressing yourself, can show.

These people can seem to "fly off the handle". And whilst this can also happen with the easier aspects too. The square attaches shame and self criticism to being an emotional " wreck" etc.

posted August 18, 2018 01:07 PM            

I want to feel the bad just as much as the good; I want to dominate but I want to work for it - I don’t want an easy ride.

posted August 18, 2018 02:23 PM            

Always thought of Ven-Plu contacts as "ugly/beautiful" or "painful/joy".

I also think of this aspect as indicative of someone who is fearful of rejection. Feelings run so deep that they can easily turn obsessive.

The hard to get part is likely Mars/Saturn. Saturn likes to " work" for rewards or be given a hard time.