posted September 18, 2018 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sad situation indeed.

I hope u get clarity. Mine came after a long while of dealing with the hurt.

I think I let a tear fall when his friend (who was long interested in me) told him that he was going to ask me out.

And his response to that was: "Go ahead. You can have that."

I felt my heart drop "you can have that"??? Really??? Like I was some piece of meat to be thrown around.

Sometimes one can get their worth easily confused with a bad situation.

A woman accidentally drops her beautiful bracelet in a pile of garbage.

And for a while she frantically searches for the bracelet and gets all the dirt and smells on her hands.

Finally she realizes that her beauty is adornment enough without the bracelet, washes her hands clean and carries on.

Like the woman, I accidentally lost my own sense of worth during that time.

And as I struggled to look for answers on what I did wrong or what I could have done to prevent the situation etc. my whole outlook on relationships was "dirtied" by that experience.

At some point I found myself accepting the situation and my self worth returned. In truth, it was never "affected".

It was just all an illusion. And life carried on as I dusted myself off from that experience and moved forward.

We were just a mismatch. My ego got hurt more than my heart. In retrospect I know that now.

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Thats such an aweful thing to say! What a jerk he is! The phrase "you are better off without him" suits well here. I'm so sorry you had to the misfortune encountering such a jerk

Yes we often attach our selfworth to others ability to see our worth. Now days, I know my worth well, I'm aware of all my bad sides, but I know well about my good sides aswell, and if the other person can not see it or do not wanna, then its his loss, bye..

posted September 19, 2018 02:37 AM            

Aries23 .. We share a square between Mars and IC
Glad you have your dog loving-up on you!

posted September 19, 2018 04:51 AM            

No love for me ever.

posted September 19, 2018 05:58 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Melinn

Aries23 .. We share a square between Mars and IC
Glad you have your dog loving-up on you!

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Oh yes. And thank you for that song Coz it certainly can get a little rough mentally.

I feel overjoyed when you listen to my word indeed.

There is a beautiful song from a local singer who sings innthe native IsiSwati language.

Translated the song is " There is a song in my soul I want the world to listen to. But this song has no words, can you hear it?

Its a song that asks only to listen. If only I could find the words. But words are not enough to hear the song. For it needs not. For you to reply but understand. This song in my soul"

On another note. I am also happy to finally have someone with this aspect.

Can u briefly explain what its like for you?(sorry guys I know I am derailing somewhat)

I also have Mars square Moon(Ic ruler) and so I am never sure which is doing what.

Do you find yourself very active at home or the type to take charge on the home front?

The aggressivd "Mama bear" comes to mind; very caring and protective almost to a point of being dangerous?

I feel like I could die for my siblings and family. My life for theirs etc.

posted September 19, 2018 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
I have Venus conjunct Jupiter in 8H natally. Wide orb though of 7 degrees..

No love for me ever.

Money always appears when I need to though, but only always enough, never more.

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I hear ya. Never "more". Just enough.

My Dad came for a brief visit the other day and upon leaving he asked me "How much money do you need?" To which I responded "How much money do you have?"

Then he said "no. I am asking you how much do you need?" And I said "I need all the money that I can get. That is true. But also true is that you don't have all the money that I want. So how much money do you have?"

I don't know if that was Jupiter-Venus slight relief on my money status? Because it was short-lived. My old man did not have much to give. But he gave as much as he could.

So if there is one thing that I think this transit has further clarified(the initial clarification commenced with Saturn on Venus) is how money(Venus) is freedom(Jupiter).

Now I am not too wild about the former (money). But the latter(freedom) definitely is a hook for my Sag Sun.

So in order to keep on having freedom,I must keep on having a steady inflow of money.

posted September 20, 2018 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
There is a beautiful song from a local singer who sings in the native IsiSwati language.

Translated the song is
"There is a song in my soul I want the world to listen to.
But this song has no words, can you hear it?
.. It's a song that asks only to listen.
If only I could find the words.
But words are not enough to hear the song.
For it needs not. For you to reply but understand.
This song in my soul." *smile*

On another note. I am also happy to finally have someone with this aspect.

Can u briefly explain what it's like for you?(sorry guys I know I am derailing somewhat)

I also have Mars square Moon (Ic ruler)
and so I am never sure which is doing what.

Do you find yourself very active at home
or the type to take charge on the home front?

The aggressive "Mama bear" comes to mind; very caring and protective almost to a point of being dangerous?

I feel like I could die for my siblings and family. My life for theirs etc.

How does it go with you?

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The lyrics to that IsiSwati song are so Beautiful. Reminds me a bit of this song.

(music) Only Hope (Mandy Moore, lyrics, prayer of consecration) [3:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAoFJ7k--s

The IC/H4 is one of the deepest psychological places of our chart.

My IC is 2.30 Aries.
My Mars Cancer is 2.36 H7gem

Mars Cancer is considered in its detriment (handicapped) plus it is a "young" Mars at 2+ degrees.

Mars Cancer (conjunct snMercGem 27) is in a dissociate trine to Neptune-rx Libra 25+ H10.

And I've been typing out this post for hours, then editing MUCH material before submitting. Sometimes it just feels like I have 'too much' to say. .. *smile*

YES to the She-Bear and VERY protective .. not just of family and any friends.

This 'sense' has also grown to include an overarching protective sense for 'the world' at large.

I would take a protective-stance or watchful eye out for a total stranger on the streets that I (believe) is being unjustly oppressed (bullied), or distressed.

It's like 'the world' has come under my Care. *smile*. {I feel an inwardly protective spirit towards all.}

You are another me. I keep a Protective Eye and Connection.
I am my Sister and Brother's Keeper, no matter where you are in the world.
YOU are my Tribe.

1184 Gaea Virgo 24.30-cnj-
Moon Virgo 24.56 H(9)Leo
.. sextile Jupiter Cancer 27+, Uranus-VX 25,24+ H8

Neptune-rx Libra H10
trine H3-Aquarius Cusp
trine Mercury-Gem H7 {cnj Mars-Cancer}

H3-Aquarius with {{Pisces}} intercepted
{{aka hugged?!}}. LOL

(music) I'm On Your Side (Jennifer Holliday) [5:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ipTaoaQRA

posted September 27, 2018 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I hear ya. Never "more". Just enough.

My Dad came for a brief visit the other day and upon leaving he asked me "How much money do you need?" To which I responded "How much money do you have?"

Then he said "no. I am asking you how much do you need?" And I said "I need all the money that I can get. That is true. But also true is that you don't have all the money that I want. So how much money do you have?"

I don't know if that was Jupiter-Venus slight relief on my money status? Because it was short-lived. My old man did not have much to give. But he gave as much as he could.

So if there is one thing that I think this transit has further clarified(the initial clarification commenced with Saturn on Venus) is how money(Venus) is freedom(Jupiter).

Now I am not too wild about the former (money). But the latter(freedom) definitely is a hook for my Sag Sun.

So in order to keep on having freedom,I must keep on having a steady inflow of money.

"they say money is not the key to happiness. But I always figured that if you have enough money, you can always have the key made"- Joan Rivers.

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It really made my heart ache reading this and seeing that scene in my head. He sounds supportive! Or doing his best..

posted September 28, 2018 01:20 AM            

If that is the only issue that I worry about. Its all good.

I am not starving, not paying rent where I stay, don't have debts, not going through any depression(this despite Saturn on my Sag stellium and parallel my Ic/Mc), health is fantastic. I could go on and on.

My parents are very supportive. Mom especially. And I extremely grateful for that.

My moon conjuncts the Ic from the 3rd and Jupiter/Venus forms an inconjunct, trine aspect with Ic respectively.

I find people who have Moon/Sun/Jupiter or Venus close to the Ic, are supported by family (barring adverse aspects that may compromise that)

This situation is temporary and a job is coming soon. Just need to keep at my studies and finish. All will be well

posted September 28, 2018 01:37 AM            

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Originally posted by MacKaylaLane:
I have Venus conjunt Jupiter in Virgo in 6th house. Venus rules my 7th and Jupiter rules my 9th. I'm not that lucky in love but i am mostly attracted to foreighers and to Sagittarius influenced people. I consider myself lucky when it comes to higher eduction . My Mars in 3rd house squares Venus so maybe that's why i have no luck with love lol

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Square of Venus/Mars can certainly create problems or impediments.

There is a tendency to want things to go your way in relationships. Compromise is a challenge to master.

Add to that an increased sensitivity and defensiveness in feelings-makes flirting and making your feeling known quite painful.

As much as Mars on Venus increases desire, there is also the fear of rejection. Confidence in ones ability to go after what one wants may be compromised due to internalizing rebuffs and unrequited feelings from others.

I like that Jupiter in 6th though. It means that you can be lucky in getting work or get work done efficiently. Even popularity attained at work?

I have the semisextile aspect of Venus/Mars. Moon makes a trine to Venus and square to Mars-thereby being the conjoining planet.

Very sensitive to rejection in love. Saturn on Venus does not make me try again when I get an emphatic "no". And my heart was set on that individual.

I get you

posted October 02, 2018 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Love can blind-side you when you least expect it.

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Too true. Especially when you really don't know how on earth you fell for that person. But you just did.

And that is at the crux of what the world's been looking for forever I guess I.e You don't "find" love. Love "finds" you.

There is no other way for love to come because as humans we THINK way too much and plan how its going to be.

posted October 02, 2018 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Square of Venus/Mars can certainly create problems or impediments.

As much as Mars on Venus increases desire, there is also the fear of rejection. Confidence in ones ability to go after what one wants may be compromised due to internalizing rebuffs and unrequited feelings from others.

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posted October 02, 2018 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh no Melinn. Don't worry about it. I am blessed.

If that is the only issue that I worry about. Its all good.

I am not starving, not paying rent where I stay, don't have debts, not going through any depression(this despite Saturn on my Sag stellium and parallel my Ic/Mc), health is fantastic. I could go on and on.

My parents are very supportive. Mom especially. And I extremely grateful for that.

My moon conjuncts the Ic from the 3rd and Jupiter/Venus forms an inconjunct, trine aspect with Ic respectively.

I find people who have Moon/Sun/Jupiter or Venus close to the Ic, are supported by family (barring adverse aspects that may compromise that)

This situation is temporary and a job is coming soon. Just need to keep at my studies and finish. All will be well

Truly blessed

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posted October 02, 2018 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
That sounds really alike Mars-Moon aspects!
Is it because moon and venus, in a way seems like kindered planets? Or "same type of energy" planets?

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Yes. Moon and Venus have similar effects.

But with the square to Venus of Mars, there is fear of social rejection and feeling really insecure within relationships.

This can be a person who starts arguments so as to ensure that they are still loved. They are sensitive to rejection.

The square to Moon goes deeper. This goes to the psyche and beyond relations. It is the individual feeling "rejection" from a personal point of view.

So this native fears getting close to people and can develop a loner quality in personality.

posted October 02, 2018 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. Moon and Venus have similar effects.

But with the square to Venus of Mars, there is fear of social rejection and feeling really insecure within relationships.

This can be a person who starts arguments so as to ensure that they are still loved. They are sensitive to rejection.

The square to Moon goes deeper. This goes to the psyche and beyond relations. It is the individual feeling "rejection" from a personal point of view.

So this native fears getting close to people and can develop a loner quality in personality.

Whilst the Venus square Mars worries about social rejection, being a hit with the preferred sex or being well received. The square to the Moon fears getting close and can be prickly,moody and difficult to be involved with.

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I love learning all thise from you!

Yes venus-moon similarities I have always thought about, how alike they are. Also neptune (higher octave of venus).

posted October 02, 2018 03:33 PM            

He has views that can maybe be mistaken for racisim (but aren't) and he has never ever talked about it before, but now days, he seems to wanna share his views, starting libra flavoured discussions. One can hear in his voice how indignant he feels about some people being seen as repulsive because of their political views. And he just wants to be accepted.

Normally he won't share so much of his views. I guess my Aries/gemini stellium has made him feel safe to express himself haha. (and 7th house transits he has right now).

I encourage him, by showing interest, bc its like he is a shy deer, sudden moves or harsh words will make him close up.
He even has started to share political dabate videos with me. YAWN! I'm pluto 3rd house oppo sun-mercury damn it! I believe democrasy is only an illusion. He does not fathom the width of my cynicism and how realistical I am, its endearing sometimes haha.

posted October 12, 2018 02:36 AM            

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Makes sense, why my Libra venyus square guy friends thise last days has been so adamant about talking about politics and racism, but he never would before.

He has views that can maybe be mistaken for racisim (but aren't) and he has never ever talked about it before, but now days, he seems to wanna share his views, starting libra flavoured discussions. One can hear in his voice how indignant he feels about some people being seen as repulsive because of their political views. And he just wants to be accepted.

Normally he won't share so much of his views. I guess my Aries/gemini stellium has made him feel safe to express himself haha. (and 7th house transits he has right now).

I encourage him, by showing interest, bc its like he is a shy deer, sudden moves or harsh words will make him close up.
He even has started to share political dabate videos with me. YAWN! I'm pluto 3rd house oppo sun-mercury damn it! I believe democrasy is only an illusion. He does not fathom the width of my cynicism and how realistical I am, its endearing sometimes haha.

His views? Still very naive, and he takes on the "collective mind", can't see the whole picture. But its hard to show him the real games thats at play.. sigh..

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Lol. Well its natural for someone who has Pluto in 3rd to want to change other people's minds.

I think Pluto in 3rd connected to mind-control(similar to Pluto-Merc,Mercury in Scor and Merc in 8th)

posted October 13, 2018 05:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Lol. Well its natural for someone who has Pluto in 3rd to want to change other people's minds.

I think Pluto in 3rd connected to mind-control(similar to Pluto-Merc,Mercury in Scor and Merc in 8th)

And oh yes, I misread the stellium part. I thought you meant stellium in Aries. You actually said stellium in Gem right?

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Yes but what worse is, Pluto in 3rd is opposite Mercury (and sun) in 9th. Now thats mind control on steroids I tell ya!
But I have really changed my ways and I'm super selfaware now days.

It manifests for me like.. I wanna shape other close friends, (mostly only guy friends) views and thoughts and minds about how they should percieve me.

I get very frustrated and disappointed when I fail.

It does not work that way.. you can't control others thoughts. It does not matter have meticiously I plan to say something, and try to predict what I they will feel and think about what I say , that way I can shape his mind to feel this and that about me etc.