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Topic: Guess the Ascendant :)
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astri Knowflake Posts: 311 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 06:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Welcome to Lindaland Astri!!!!!!! I was born in the Dominican Republic, I lived in Miami for nearly two decades and have lived for 6 years in Colorado. My rising sign for the Dominican Republic and Miami are the same but for Colorado is different. I wonder which rising sing would you pick up if you see a pic of me now in Colorado, the relocation rising sign or my natal rising sign?
Hi hypatia238!! Thanks for the welcome, lol!! Haha, if you don't mind, you can always post pics of you in Colorado and Miami, so we can guess. It's quite a fun game lol IP: Logged |
astri Knowflake Posts: 311 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 06:38 AM
BTW, I rest my case that your ascendant was libra at the time of birth. (don’t know how to turn on HTML here, so I can’t post a screenshot of your chart yet, but I checked at 14:00 PM)Here’s why: it makes total sense to me that your neptune conjunct uranus would be in the 4th house (family, roots, home, upbringing) with uranus causing sudden changes and disruptions in your homelife and neptune in the positive sense creates an ideal/spiritual home but that wasn’t the case, so in the negative sense it can cause confusion and deception. When calculating your natal chart at 14 o clock, neptune and uranus is close to the IC and making a square with the AC which creates a negative aspect. Hence, neptune working out negatively in the home, causing confusion. This also means that neptune and uranus continue to cause confusion and disruptions in your early years, since it would be transiting the 4th house. With this calculation you also have nemesis on the ascendant, which I think would also be telling, but don’t know much about that. (what I read about Nemesis: seeking to place BLAME; scapegoating; finger-pointing; identification of the enemy, fault, or source of a problem. Involves hard lessons learning humility and detachment. It can show lost and separation from one's children or from the fruits of one's labors. ) Also, your sun and south node (past) would be in the 9th house of travel which can explain the traveling. When you were separated from your mother, 3 years later, there is a significant event going on: the north node is transiting the ascendant and south node conjuncts the descendant. Chiron was also conjuncting jupiter.. of course, solar return, progressions and so so on could give more clues.. March 27, 2000, I first met my adoptive parents. : mars was conjunct vertex, asteroid Child conjunct Ceres. Pluto conjunct NN.. November (I think on the 2nd of November), I traveled Internationally, because of my adoption, on a permanent. SN conjunct IC, NN conjunct MC. Pluto was in the sign of sagitarrius (travel) Solar return chart of 1996 (separation mother) is interesting with this chart: NN conj AC / SN conj DC asteroid chaos conj Venus SR Venus and Mars conj natal South Node Venus, Mars, Mercury, asteroids Child, Chaos are in SR 11th house from which I read elsewhere that the 11th house often relates to death and mourning much more than the 8th house(in 90% of cases, 8th house emphasis by SR or transits tells us about financial problems rather than death https://www.astrologyonline.eu/Active_Astrology/Active-Astrology-Articles/Active-Astrology-Article-detail.asp?sezione=Active+Astrology&ID=233 SR AC was in the 10th House of reputation SR return Ceres was close to SR Pluto but not exact and Vertex not so far from NN.. Could have been a 'lucky' event in a sense with POF conjuncting jupiter in the SR chart. Can we know where you started to live with your adoptive parents? Then I could check to see if that changes your ascendant from this one and if it makes sense with your other life events.. IP: Logged |
WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 07:22 AM
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 07:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: You know the year your mother left you Tr Jupiter in Capricorn opposed your SUN in Cancer conjunct IC if you have Aries rising.Jupiter can be a planet of release. With Tr Jupiter right on the MC when she left you opposing your SUN on the IC, something tells me she released you so you could have a better life (MC). MC is our direction in life and where you are heading, maybe she felt you would have more opportunities if she gave you up, specially since planet jupiter is known to carry that energy of expansion and opportunities. With tr jupiter opposing Sun on the IC, is like she released you from your roots so you could have more opportunities and a better life.
Wooow!! This seems very true. But as far as I know, my mother had a very difficult life (addiction problems), and it was the state who withdrew custody of me. I feel I could be Aries my ascendant, because I really like the challenges For example, give me a relatively short time, and a goal that excited me personally, and I will fight to get it. I'm very excited about that ^^
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 07:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: You met your parents, adoption was signed and you traveled for your adoption all while transit pluto was conjuncting your Northnode. I guess pluto brought big life altering changes to your life that helped you get on your northnode path and move forward.The day you met your boyfriend tr pluto was potentially squaring your AC/DC axis if you have Aries rising. Further there was a huge aries stellium transit approaching your AC or conjuncting your AC in Aries: Sun in Aries at 9d Venus in Aries at 6d Uranus in Aries at 5d Mars in Aries at 11d ^All that was squaring your Sun conjunct IC too.
Wow, So this would bring us closer to my real ascendant?
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 07:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: Her moon aspects her Mercury, she should easily be able to make sense of her feelings... And her Venus MC ruler opposes moon and aspects Mercury too and sits in the tenth. So I'd think at the end of the day she's got no issues publicly expressing how she feels/thinks, but in a constructive manner with the Saturn square. So I'm afraid it wouldn't be a good pointer, since other stuff cancels it out.
Yes!! , I don't usually have trouble talking about my feelings.
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astri Knowflake Posts: 311 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 10:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by WhiteBirds: Wow, This is amazing!!! Yes, I came to live with my adoptive parents to Spain, to a very small town. One of the problems that I found in my new life in Spain, is that there was a neighbor who was something like a "witch", and sent me a lot of negative energy. Continually spoke ill about me, etcetera. Another of the events I forgot to mention is that the great love of my life is a Libra, with Luna in Leo. And I met him under very special circumstances. We met in Russia. He was also an adopted child. He's one year older than me, and in Russia we spent two weeks together before coming to Spain. Then we separate. And we came back online when I was 15 years old. When I was 17, we met in person. The meeting was very strange. Many insecurities on my part and also for his And since then we have not seen each other again, because it seems that there is always a problem that prevents us. But we keep in touch, and both he and I know that we are very important in each other's lives. When we talk, it's like we're those kids again. I also feel that Libra attracts me in a very special way. Libra and Aries, no doubt are the signs that attract me most for a relationship or romantic. Normally, when I see a man Aries, my eyes run after him, I fall in love fast And when I see a Libra man I feel the same, but in a different way, as more "sweet". Libra and Aries are always of men that I fall madly in love But for a stable relationship,I always feel more inclined towards men cancer, or men of any sign of land (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn). And I do not know if this serves to guess the ascendant, but my life in Spain was very difficult in the early years. Thank you very much for your help and your attention!!! This means a lot For me I'm sorry if my English is not very correct.
You're welcome
I see that in several places in Spain this would give you virgo as ascendant when born at 14:00. If you could still see this as fitting. I see you recognize yourself also in Aries, so either Hypatia is right about that, but I also see that depending on which town in Spain, you can have Mars conjunct the ascendant which can give you Aries like qualities. A planet on one of the angles will be just as strong as a rising sign for example. (Mars conjunct Ascendant natal gives a very strong, courageous and independent nature. You come on strong even when meeting someone for the first time, often appearing aggressive at one extreme or sexy at the other. ) With this chart, you would have pluto transiting your 4th House (powerful transformations in the homelife) during your adoption and natal pluto, moon and some asteroids in the third house which could refer to the gossiping of neighbours as third house rules neighbours, but it's a wild guess of course. Your jupiter falls in libra which may also explain why you feel attracted to libra's..
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 29, 2018 11:06 AM
Entonces hablas espanol!? Mis abuelos son espanoles (ya muertos), de Asturia y Valencia. Unas de mis amigas de la infancia vive en Madrid. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 29, 2018 11:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: Her moon aspects her Mercury, she should easily be able to make sense of her feelings... And her Venus MC ruler opposes moon and aspects Mercury too and sits in the tenth. So I'd think at the end of the day she's got no issues publicly expressing how she feels/thinks, but in a constructive manner with the Saturn square. So I'm afraid it wouldn't be a good pointer, since other stuff cancels it out.
I see your point but with mercury in the 12th trine Moon conjunct Pluto in the 4th even though her mercury trines her Moon bc her moon conjuncts pluto in scorpio in the 4th and mercury falls in the 12th, with leo rising, she would be quite introverted and reserved and she says she is not and that she expresses her feelings openly and with ease. 4th/12th/scorpio/moon conjunct pluto; all that would make someone reserved and private about expressing their feelings/thoughts and very selective of who she opens up to, 4th house is private, 12th house is private, scorpio is private, moon conjunct pluto is private so her leo rising would give the impression she is very open and extroverted but in reality she would be very private, reserved, and introverted in spite of that mercury trining moon bc of were the moon and mercury are falling house wise and bc the moon conjuncts pluto in scorpio. If she is very open about her thoughts and feelings I don't think she has Leo rising then, I am back to either Aries or Sagittarius which both have a reputation for been direct or blunt. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 29, 2018 11:17 AM
BTW Whitebirds your ex having moon in leo is not surprising at all regardless of your rising sign, you have venus in Taurus opposite Moon conjunct Pluto so anyone with Leo around those degrees would complete a TSQUARE with the LEO person becoming the apex of that stquare. You will always feel attracted to fixed signs, perhaps specially to Leo which would match the passion of your moon conjunct pluto more than say an aquarius. Add him been libra, this would make sense if you have Aries rising as his sun would conjunct your DC or fall on your 7th. IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 925 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted November 29, 2018 01:11 PM
Haven't read the whole thread but you look like a Libra or PiscesIP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 29, 2018 01:50 PM
For those who guessed virgo rising, if she has aries rising, her mars is in virgo and this would play into how she comes across so you would see more earth/fire in how she comes across. I think this is why I pictured her in the woods with a bow and arrow when I first saw her!For those of you who guessed libra, if she has sag rising jupiter in libra rule her chart so she would have a fire/airy feel in show she comes across. If she had leo rising people would have guessed more Cancer as her rising sign. Also jupiter contacts are super common in relationships so it makes sense you attract libras just bc you have jupiter in libra. IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 1128 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted November 29, 2018 06:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I see your point but with mercury in the 12th trine Moon conjunct Pluto in the 4th even though her mercury trines her Moon bc her moon conjuncts pluto in scorpio in the 4th and mercury falls in the 12th, with leo rising, she would be quite introverted and reserved and she says she is not and that she expresses her feelings openly and with ease. 4th/12th/scorpio/moon conjunct pluto; all that would make someone reserved and private about expressing their feelings/thoughts and very selective of who she opens up to, 4th house is private, 12th house is private, scorpio is private, moon conjunct pluto is private so her leo rising would give the impression she is very open and extroverted but in reality she would be very private, reserved, and introverted in spite of that mercury trining moon bc of were the moon and mercury are falling house wise and bc the moon conjuncts pluto in scorpio. If she is very open about her thoughts and feelings I don't think she has Leo rising then, I am back to either Aries or Sagittarius which both have a reputation for been direct or blunt.
It's not the trine to Mercury that would eliminate the introvertedness, it's the Venus aspecting all those and sitting in the tenth (and ruling the tenth), hence expressing those in the open. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 30, 2018 12:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: It's not the trine to Mercury that would eliminate the introvertedness, it's the Venus aspecting all those and sitting in the tenth (and ruling the tenth), hence expressing those in the open.
But her venus is in taurus which is a sign normally reserved, private and introverted, also add that her venus opposite moon conjunct pluto forms a tsquare with saturn at the apex, reinforcing cautiousness around her feelings and been more private and less vocal. Her venus is also influenced by moon conjunct pluto in scorpio in the 4th, that venus is not operating alone, it has stuff in the 4th also influencing it. Maybe she will spy on people for a living if she has leo rising actually , she is a Russian spy! lol or she can become a child protective services investigator if she has leo rising. Regardless of her rising she has the chart of someone more introverted, her rising must be extroverted to offset that if she comes off as outgoing and open but leo rising would reinforce more the tendency to be private snd introverted bc of the 4th house action and mercury in the 12th but with venus in the 10th square saturn maybe it just means her career will involve a lot of privacy, discretion and investigating. IP: Logged |
WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 01, 2018 06:19 AM
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waxlobster Knowflake Posts: 893 From: Birmingham Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 04, 2018 09:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by waxlobster: I'd go for Leo rising, late, about 27 degrees. This puts Chiron in the 12th, Moon-Pluto square Asc. I can see this in your expression. Do the timings work if you look at transits to 27 Leo and whatever the MC is?
I've just been reading through the rest of the comments. I can't see the age of your adoption WhiteBirds but with a process called solar arcs very big life events can be seen by counting degrees between planets & angles. This can be incredibly accurate for dating events and timings in ones early life particularly. I stand by my guess, it also shows that Chiron was Solar Arc this Ascendant when you were 6 years old. This ties in with the passing of your biological father. In terms of war, myself and other Libra Risings I know absolutely detest any form of aggression, violence and/or conflict. <3 ------------------ How will Jupiter in Sagittarius affect us and you personally? Find out here: http://waxlobster.blogspot.co.uk/ Also my new page is: http://facebook.com/waxyjo IP: Logged |
astri Knowflake Posts: 311 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 04, 2018 10:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by WhiteBirds: This is my chart for 12 pm. Events of my Life: -March 27, 2000, I first met my adoptive parents. -24 October 2000, my adoption was signed in court. -In November (I think on the 2nd of November), I traveled Internationally, because of my adoption, on a permanent. -At the age of 3 years, I was separated from my biological mother (I do not know exactly the date). -March 27, 2013, I met my boyfriend that I fell in love. -In September 2014, I had an abortion. -In the year 2009, I found my biological brother. - In November 2014, I had a surgical operation. -In July 2017, I was about to die for Asphyxia. (total choking with 🤭 food). I don't know if there are enough events. Thanks a lot!!!
That's what I've been saying all along. Do you mean you did memory recall?
I think it's the most fitting, also because that makes uranus and neptune being in the 4th house, causing confusion and sudden changes in your homelife. And in 1996, when you would have been separated from your biological mother, you had the north node (life purpose) crossing your ascendant with this chart. Your ascendant could have changed due to relocation in the meantime as I have said in my last comment. In Spain you can have virgo as AC (virgo's also described as hesitant) and Mars conjunct the ascendant (depending on where you exactly live now) giving you more fire to your personality (liking war and conflict) . IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 04, 2018 01:16 PM
Aries Rising medium height to taller, spare or stocky, athletic build more graceful than they look body is typically lean with long or thin face and neck ruddy complexion hair may be sandy or red frontal lobe area usually pronounced, wide forehead pointed chin sharp, distinctive features with prominent brows may have birthmarks or scars on face or head males tend toward baldness strong bone structure upright posture darting gaze Ruled by the planet MarsI feel all this fits you: ruddy complexion (check) hair may be sandy or red (check, sandy) frontal lobe area usually pronounced, wide forehead (check) pointed chin (check) sharp, distinctive features with prominent brows (check to prominent brows, sharp eyes) darting gaze (check) Your face is oval, I think your face could be a combo of your sun in cancer with your rising sign. Sun in cancer is making your face more round while aries rising is making it more long. Look at the pics of aries risers in this link, notice the girl in the bottom on the left side and notice how you have the aries nose: http://astrologicalcounsel.blogspot.com/2014/08/rising-sign-caricatures.html Honestly even that "Last place" tshirt you are wearing is like a sarcastic tshirt an aries riser would wear, shows also the playful side of aries riser. With aries rising at early degrees your Moon would rule your IC and fall on your 8th conjunct Pluto symbolizing losing your mother early on in your childhood and that moon conjunct pluto would square saturn in the 12th, emphasizing that there is a mystery around your mother due to this loss, a mystery around your heritage/genetics and were you come from, things you will never know. Saturn in the 12th squaring ruler of your IC (moon) in the 8th can also show the mental health issues your bio mom struggled with and the substance abuse issues that led to her been taken from you. Libra rising could fit too but you don't have the libra nose definitely or the libra eyes, yes the shape of your face could match the libra riser profile but I also feel your sun in cancer has a lot to do with the shape of your face period. You have this daring look on your eyes (daring eyes) that is not a libra riser theme. Sun in cancer tends to be hospitable and accommodating and mars in virgo ruling your chart would be more accommodating too! Virgo is the sign of service. Add you have a fire void in your chart yet I sense fire when I see you immediately so a fire rising sign makes sense. I see why libra rising seems possible I do but I still feel aries rising fits best. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 04, 2018 01:25 PM
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 04, 2018 05:30 PM
I have been looking at a bunch of aries riser pictures and I don't think you are an aries riser, now that I look at real pics of people with aries rising and that I see a bunch of them I completely change me mind. You don't look like an aries riser! So my bad.Patrick Timsit has sun in cancer, moon in scorpio and libra rising and I see a resemblance definitely but you are pretty. http://france-amerique.com/fr/event/patrick-timsit-we-cant-laugh-at-everything/ Perhaps yes you are libra riser.
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Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 1128 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 04, 2018 06:01 PM
I'm still thinking Aquarius rising. Cyndi Lauper has these same placements... She's got the shape features like you I think. Plus personality-wise it makes a lot of sense for you to be this riser as already explained in a previous post. And it would also put Sagittarius on your MC. Picture of her when younger for you to relate better. https://www.google.com/search?q=cyndi+lauper&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEmM2OooffAhUthuAKHbpZA28Q_AUoAXoECA8QAQ&biw=412&bih=604&dpr=2. 63#imgrc=doxUdEbQ38665M IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 04, 2018 07:51 PM
Man I hope you do figure it out love . Perhaps it is Libra rising, I don't feel confident any more about aries rising after looking at a bunch of aries riser pics. Here is kate and Leo from Titanic, both have libra rising, kate actually has sun/moon/AC all in Libra:
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14655 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 05, 2018 06:19 PM
I think I am going to settle on leo She has like a blend of cancer with the leo cat eyes. She can dress as a cat for halloween and look like a great cat woman.
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 05, 2018 07:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I think I am going to settle on leo She has like a blend of cancer with the leo cat eyes. She can dress as a cat for halloween and look like a great cat woman.
Hello Hypatia! Wow, how much information to read ^^ I see that there is much confusion with my ascendant... Here's another picture: Thank you very much for your help!!! 🙏😊
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 05, 2018 07:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: I'm still thinking Aquarius rising. Cyndi Lauper has these same placements... She's got the shape features like you I think. Plus personality-wise it makes a lot of sense for you to be this riser as already explained in a previous post. And it would also put Sagittarius on your MC. Picture of her when younger for you to relate better. https://www.google.com/search?q=cyndi+lauper&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEmM2OooffAhUthuAKHbpZA28Q_AUoAXoECA8QAQ&biw=412&bih=604&dpr=2. 63#imgrc=doxUdEbQ38665M
For if I see an energy very similar to mine! IP: Logged | |