posted March 14, 2021 09:14 PM            

None of us know Meghan personally and what she's been through. She could very well be a narcissist or someone recovering from that type of abuse. You have no idea what really goes on in any family no matter how polished the outside looks. And I am speaking from personal experience.

If anything, for the sake of the discussion, from the outside looking in, the royal family is filled with Narcissists. Obsession with appearances? Check. Disown anybody for the sake of appearances? Check. Polished image, crumbling home life? Check. etc.

posted March 14, 2021 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1:
This is a part of my reply on other thread about Harry and Meghan. Why exactly is she disliked-yup, something I thought about a lot too, especially in past week. Before her marriage, I really did not care about this person. All I knew was she was an actress on suits, a show I semi-liked and she played her character fine. All I thought was, '2 people love each other and in the process they are also bringing a fresh modern touch to an outdated institution, good'. It is the constant red flags thereafter..

[b] She has GHOSTED her entire family pre-harry. ENTIRE FAMILY. Except her mom. No father, No half-siblings, no nieces,nephews,cousins, NOBODY. Who does this??? In the Oprah interview, she said she met her half-sister 18 or so years ago. NOPE. There is a photo of them together in 2008.

Where are her CHILDHOOD FRIENDS? There is a picture of her posing in front of Buckingham Palace with a friend when she was 15. Her friend of 30 years confirmed that she 'wanted to be the next version of people's princess'. Consequence? GHOSTED. Friend of 30 FREAKING YEARS. GONE.

She got ahead in Hollywood thanks to her previous marriage with a hollywood executive with connections. Once she got Suits, BYE BYE. GONE. Sent her marriage ring in MAIL.

The ONLY FRIENDS she has now? All the rich, influential, famous people in media and entertainment industries. Oprah, Clooney, Beyonce, actors, media moghuls, beauty queens, producers, the ones gracing the magazine covers, the who's who of global top 1% population.

And this is all okay. After all, there is nothing wrong with being ambitious. There is nothing wrong with being a social climber. And it is not easy either. For seducing the who's who of the global rich and influential list, one has to be charming, good conversationalist, intelligent, well-read, well-versed in global issues, witty...clearly she is all of these things. So even for people who call her a gold digger, an ambitious social climber, I say, so what? That's the skill she has and she employs it. Good for her.

It is the constant manipulation and 'POOR ME, SWEET ANGEL ME, LOVE ME, HUG ME, WORSHIP ME' attitude that bugs me and has bugged a lot of people from the beginning. It is the incessant lying. And playing the victim card. The references to RACE and GENDER that have broken the internet and now there is a rabid 'woke' group out there hailing her as the next messiah.

The ultimate was the Oprah 'bombshell'. 2 hours of 2 millionaires sitting and lying through their teeth-

'I DID NOT RESEARCH THE WORLD I WAS ENTERING'-after confirmed reports from her childhood friends that she was obsessed with Diana and wanted to be Diana 2.0, read her books, watched her videos, watched the funeral, copied her dressing style etc. etc. Oh and she used to write a blog 'The TIG' where she had used a very envious line of 'look at all the pomp and splendor surrounding Kate's wedding' right before Kate and William's wedding. So yeah, she did not know anything about the royal family or Harry before she met him ...RIIIIIIIGHT

'I NEEDED HELP AND WENT TO THE INSTITUTION AND THEY SAID IT WON'T BE GOOD FOR THEM'-This, after her own husband has gone on record saying he got therapy to get over his mother's loss, and didn't Diana get psychiatric help while living in Buckingham Palace? And isn't HARRY BLOODY WELL A PART OF A MENTAL HEALTH CHARITY??? And all he does is sit there saying 'I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO'!!!

'OUR SECURITY WAS WITHDRAWN...OUR KID WAS NOT GIVEN TITLES OR SECURITY BECAUSE OF RACE'-Did they themselves not take up any title because they wanted Archie to have a normal life? Aren't there strict rules about who gets security and title and who doesn't-sure its a stuffy outdated institution that runs on archaic rules but that is the reason and not race, right?

'MY PASSPORT WAS TAKEN AWAY, MY KEYS WAS TAKEN AWAY, I WAS A PRISONER, I DID NOT LEAVE THE PALACE MORE THAN 2 TIMES IN A 4 MONTH PERIOD'-Ummm, I am in India and I do not recall a single 4 month period where we did not read about this royal couple travelling and frolicking somewhere on this planet. Without passport?? Didn't she have a high-class baby shower in LA with her rich and powerful friends and if she was such a prisoner I am sure her private-jet toting friends would have helped her there. Unless she insinuates that the palace had professional assassins to keep tabs on her or physically restrain her???

'My WIFE WAS RACIALLY ATTACKED AND NOBODY FROM MY FAMILY SAID ANYTHING'-Umm, again, I am in India and we are not obsessed with your family but we do get important news from time to time. The 'attacks' on your wife were done by the vermin who work in tabloids and they did the same to Kate. I remember before the Kate-William wedding, even our newspapers were splashed with rumors, gossip, salacious details of Kate's life and words like 's**t , floozy, second hand, katy waity' were routinely used for her. We got to know about her dating past, there were discussions on chat boards around the world and comments in youtube videos if William is going to marry a 'used tissue paper', how 'flat chested' she was. All this and more. NOBODY spoke up or defended her then either and this was not racially motivated was it? Diana was hounded and that was not racial either was it? Hasn't Camilla been called a dog in the same tabloids? Hasn't Charles been called a loser, old twat and what not? What's wrong is wrong for everyone and not just for someone playing the race card, right?

I was a scholarship student and went to a college which I could not have otherwise afforded, and had some classmates coming from extremely rich families. One of them has a sister who works in an NGO that Meghan works with too. She was even invited to the royal wedding and has met and worked with Meghan quite a number of times over the past 5 years. After the Oprah airing, I was talking to my friend and he simply said, 'Do NOT believe a word of that. My sister told me this woman is a chameleon. One thing for the cameras and another behind. Not a thing in front of the cameras is true. Not a thing.'

This is an NGO that works for menstrual hygiene of women in India (and probably some other countries too I am not sure) and Meghan has been associated with it for some time. One specific incident that my friend shared- his sister was in touch with Meghan's staff for some write-up about the NGO in some big publication. Meghan made one of her staff member's life hell and made her rewrite the piece at least a dozen times just to make her cry. In the end she used the 2nd draft but my friend's sister said that the staff girl was terrified of getting an email from Meghan. TERRIFIED. She was an intern, all of 18. Talk about empathy and compassion of a women rights activist. Reminded me of reports of Meghan's staff in the palace being reduced to tears.

I don't know what exact astrological indicators in her chart show this, but so many people dislike her because she brings it upon herself. I don't remember where I read this, perhaps on twitter, but someone explained this very nicely- 'People love Diana because they could sense the goodness in her, people hate Meghan because they sense the darkness in her.'

I agree. If you join the dots of everything Meghan has said and done, in all the years she has been in the spotlight, all that stands out is a darkness. There is something shady about the way she has dealt with people all her life. People close to her, unless they can provide her with an advantage, are ghosted. Every time she opens her mouth, every article she pens down, every time she appears on a tv show, it is all about her struggles, her generosity, her selflessness, her fight, her loneliness. ME ME ME ME ME. For a woman rights activist, I find it strange that she does not have a word of empathy or compassion to share for any other woman. If even once she called out the tabloids on how they have treated Kate in a repulsive manner before and right after her marriage to William, I would consider her a genuine activist. Alas, no. The only thing she shared? Kate made me cry. Boohoo, poor Meghan.

She does not bring people together. She gives a sense of division. She gives a vibe of megalomania. She gives a sense of 'here is my act for you. Do you like it? Can you see the pain in my eyes? Will you love me now?'

Did you see the Charlie Hebdo cartoon depicting The Queen suffocating St. Meghan? How repulsive is that! I have no love for the monarchy. It will take a lot for me to forgive an institution that enslaved my country and treated us like animals. but EVEN I FOUND THAT CARTOON OFFENSIVE. But they drew it just because Meghan said that happened. She felt 'suffocated'.

This was no coincidence. She used 2 hours worth of VICTIM card, played the RACE card as expected and got her legion of worshippers from among the left woke ecosystem (and Harry is not blemish-less, he sat there and lied alongside, he is complicit). That interview was designed and aired to portray everybody in British Royal Family as racist, cold, mean, bullies while cementing Meghan's position as a sweet, selfless, charismatic, poor, angelic, long-suffering, graceful, victim, the 'true owner of the crown', the 'queen the world needs'.

This is what Meghan does. She is the perennial victim who tries too hard to come across as a 'good' person. Genuinely good people do not try to look good. They just are. Her act is what makes her one of the most hated people on the planet today.

You raised a good point-even Camilla does not get this much hate. True. That is because I have NEVER heard Camilla speak. I have NEVER even heard Kate speak. I have seen pictures of these ladies from time to time and that's it. These ladies do not give me a vibe of Megalomania the way Meghan does.

Now this does not mean I am saying that women should keep quiet! No. What I am saying is, I have never seen Kate, Camilla, or rather any other lady from the royal family give out a vibe of ME ME ME ME ME. The whole monarchy in my opinion is an archaic institution that should be abolished, so when I see these ladies, or any other royal member, all I see are super-rich people enjoying a life the rest of us can only dream about. I don't see Kate or Camilla give interviews about 'OH POOR ME, I AM SO OPPRESSED' at the drop of a hat. I don't see them lie all the time or spew venom against everyone else. I don't see them ghosting their families that they grew up with before joining royalty. I don't see them indulging in shady endeavors. Meghan on the other hand is entangled in a web of lies right now, her whole life seems to be a preparation for being the next Diana, every move calculated precisely for maximum impact of keeping her in news as the permanent victim of this 'horrible, misogynist, racist' society. Oh Poor Lonely Sad Meghan.

Today the world, or at least a substantial portion of humanity online, is divided into Team Meghan or Team-whatever-the-hell-is-the-other-side. And just think about it for a second. What for? Who does any of this benefit? None of us for sure. Yet we all have a visceral reaction to a situation created by someone with a desire to be the most loved person on this planet. That's it. This is classic abuse of power and it sure rubs many people the wrong way. This is why so many people hate her. I don't hate her yet...but I do consider her a megalomaniac and for sure I cannot believe a single word coming out of her or her husband's mouth, after all the blatant lies they have been spouting in order to create their own power-couple empire.[/B]

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I don't know if she is a megalomaniac, but I do know that positioning herself as a victim of racism by the royals when they gave her a fairy tale wedding and Prince Charles walked her down the aisle is very problematic.

I also have issue with her not naming the people she accuses of saying racist things to her. Thus leaving innocent people opened to speculations. Either you keep your mouth shut, OR you name the people who hurt you, and give quotes and more context than the vague statement that is designed to let the public's imagination run wild. Anything else is not honorable.

Thirdly, why would she obsess so much about the tabloids? why would she allow tabloids to rob her of her happiness of having reach a position very few women of any race achieve in their lifetime? It shows that she did not have the temperament to hold the position. There is a middle eastern proverb royalty everywhere lives by: dogs bark, the caravan marches on. Meaning, you have to rise above the pettiness of haters.

I suspect she might be bipolar since she has moon conjunct Jupiter AND Saturn. An emotional tug of war between depression and elation.

With Cancer Mars in her 12th house, she is unable to see what she does that makes people angry at her. She is unable to see her own actions, and Mars in Cancer will play the victim. What? Poor me!

posted March 15, 2021 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1:
This is a part of my reply on other thread about Harry and Meghan. Why exactly is she disliked-yup, something I thought about a lot too, especially in past week. Before her marriage, I really did not care about this person. All I knew was she was an actress on suits, a show I semi-liked and she played her character fine. All I thought was, '2 people love each other and in the process they are also bringing a fresh modern touch to an outdated institution, good'. It is the constant red flags thereafter..

[b] She has GHOSTED her entire family pre-harry. ENTIRE FAMILY. Except her mom. No father, No half-siblings, no nieces,nephews,cousins, NOBODY. Who does this??? In the Oprah interview, she said she met her half-sister 18 or so years ago. NOPE. There is a photo of them together in 2008.

Where are her CHILDHOOD FRIENDS? There is a picture of her posing in front of Buckingham Palace with a friend when she was 15. Her friend of 30 years confirmed that she 'wanted to be the next version of people's princess'. Consequence? GHOSTED. Friend of 30 FREAKING YEARS. GONE.

She got ahead in Hollywood thanks to her previous marriage with a hollywood executive with connections. Once she got Suits, BYE BYE. GONE. Sent her marriage ring in MAIL.

The ONLY FRIENDS she has now? All the rich, influential, famous people in media and entertainment industries. Oprah, Clooney, Beyonce, actors, media moghuls, beauty queens, producers, the ones gracing the magazine covers, the who's who of global top 1% population.

And this is all okay. After all, there is nothing wrong with being ambitious. There is nothing wrong with being a social climber. And it is not easy either. For seducing the who's who of the global rich and influential list, one has to be charming, good conversationalist, intelligent, well-read, well-versed in global issues, witty...clearly she is all of these things. So even for people who call her a gold digger, an ambitious social climber, I say, so what? That's the skill she has and she employs it. Good for her.

It is the constant manipulation and 'POOR ME, SWEET ANGEL ME, LOVE ME, HUG ME, WORSHIP ME' attitude that bugs me and has bugged a lot of people from the beginning. It is the incessant lying. And playing the victim card. The references to RACE and GENDER that have broken the internet and now there is a rabid 'woke' group out there hailing her as the next messiah.

The ultimate was the Oprah 'bombshell'. 2 hours of 2 millionaires sitting and lying through their teeth-

'I DID NOT RESEARCH THE WORLD I WAS ENTERING'-after confirmed reports from her childhood friends that she was obsessed with Diana and wanted to be Diana 2.0, read her books, watched her videos, watched the funeral, copied her dressing style etc. etc. Oh and she used to write a blog 'The TIG' where she had used a very envious line of 'look at all the pomp and splendor surrounding Kate's wedding' right before Kate and William's wedding. So yeah, she did not know anything about the royal family or Harry before she met him ...RIIIIIIIGHT

'I NEEDED HELP AND WENT TO THE INSTITUTION AND THEY SAID IT WON'T BE GOOD FOR THEM'-This, after her own husband has gone on record saying he got therapy to get over his mother's loss, and didn't Diana get psychiatric help while living in Buckingham Palace? And isn't HARRY BLOODY WELL A PART OF A MENTAL HEALTH CHARITY??? And all he does is sit there saying 'I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO'!!!

'OUR SECURITY WAS WITHDRAWN...OUR KID WAS NOT GIVEN TITLES OR SECURITY BECAUSE OF RACE'-Did they themselves not take up any title because they wanted Archie to have a normal life? Aren't there strict rules about who gets security and title and who doesn't-sure its a stuffy outdated institution that runs on archaic rules but that is the reason and not race, right?

'MY PASSPORT WAS TAKEN AWAY, MY KEYS WAS TAKEN AWAY, I WAS A PRISONER, I DID NOT LEAVE THE PALACE MORE THAN 2 TIMES IN A 4 MONTH PERIOD'-Ummm, I am in India and I do not recall a single 4 month period where we did not read about this royal couple travelling and frolicking somewhere on this planet. Without passport?? Didn't she have a high-class baby shower in LA with her rich and powerful friends and if she was such a prisoner I am sure her private-jet toting friends would have helped her there. Unless she insinuates that the palace had professional assassins to keep tabs on her or physically restrain her???

'My WIFE WAS RACIALLY ATTACKED AND NOBODY FROM MY FAMILY SAID ANYTHING'-Umm, again, I am in India and we are not obsessed with your family but we do get important news from time to time. The 'attacks' on your wife were done by the vermin who work in tabloids and they did the same to Kate. I remember before the Kate-William wedding, even our newspapers were splashed with rumors, gossip, salacious details of Kate's life and words like 's**t , floozy, second hand, katy waity' were routinely used for her. We got to know about her dating past, there were discussions on chat boards around the world and comments in youtube videos if William is going to marry a 'used tissue paper', how 'flat chested' she was. All this and more. NOBODY spoke up or defended her then either and this was not racially motivated was it? Diana was hounded and that was not racial either was it? Hasn't Camilla been called a dog in the same tabloids? Hasn't Charles been called a loser, old twat and what not? What's wrong is wrong for everyone and not just for someone playing the race card, right?

I was a scholarship student and went to a college which I could not have otherwise afforded, and had some classmates coming from extremely rich families. One of them has a sister who works in an NGO that Meghan works with too. She was even invited to the royal wedding and has met and worked with Meghan quite a number of times over the past 5 years. After the Oprah airing, I was talking to my friend and he simply said, 'Do NOT believe a word of that. My sister told me this woman is a chameleon. One thing for the cameras and another behind. Not a thing in front of the cameras is true. Not a thing.'

This is an NGO that works for menstrual hygiene of women in India (and probably some other countries too I am not sure) and Meghan has been associated with it for some time. One specific incident that my friend shared- his sister was in touch with Meghan's staff for some write-up about the NGO in some big publication. Meghan made one of her staff member's life hell and made her rewrite the piece at least a dozen times just to make her cry. In the end she used the 2nd draft but my friend's sister said that the staff girl was terrified of getting an email from Meghan. TERRIFIED. She was an intern, all of 18. Talk about empathy and compassion of a women rights activist. Reminded me of reports of Meghan's staff in the palace being reduced to tears.

I don't know what exact astrological indicators in her chart show this, but so many people dislike her because she brings it upon herself. I don't remember where I read this, perhaps on twitter, but someone explained this very nicely- 'People love Diana because they could sense the goodness in her, people hate Meghan because they sense the darkness in her.'

I agree. If you join the dots of everything Meghan has said and done, in all the years she has been in the spotlight, all that stands out is a darkness. There is something shady about the way she has dealt with people all her life. People close to her, unless they can provide her with an advantage, are ghosted. Every time she opens her mouth, every article she pens down, every time she appears on a tv show, it is all about her struggles, her generosity, her selflessness, her fight, her loneliness. ME ME ME ME ME. For a woman rights activist, I find it strange that she does not have a word of empathy or compassion to share for any other woman. If even once she called out the tabloids on how they have treated Kate in a repulsive manner before and right after her marriage to William, I would consider her a genuine activist. Alas, no. The only thing she shared? Kate made me cry. Boohoo, poor Meghan.

She does not bring people together. She gives a sense of division. She gives a vibe of megalomania. She gives a sense of 'here is my act for you. Do you like it? Can you see the pain in my eyes? Will you love me now?'

Did you see the Charlie Hebdo cartoon depicting The Queen suffocating St. Meghan? How repulsive is that! I have no love for the monarchy. It will take a lot for me to forgive an institution that enslaved my country and treated us like animals. but EVEN I FOUND THAT CARTOON OFFENSIVE. But they drew it just because Meghan said that happened. She felt 'suffocated'.

This was no coincidence. She used 2 hours worth of VICTIM card, played the RACE card as expected and got her legion of worshippers from among the left woke ecosystem (and Harry is not blemish-less, he sat there and lied alongside, he is complicit). That interview was designed and aired to portray everybody in British Royal Family as racist, cold, mean, bullies while cementing Meghan's position as a sweet, selfless, charismatic, poor, angelic, long-suffering, graceful, victim, the 'true owner of the crown', the 'queen the world needs'.

This is what Meghan does. She is the perennial victim who tries too hard to come across as a 'good' person. Genuinely good people do not try to look good. They just are. Her act is what makes her one of the most hated people on the planet today.

You raised a good point-even Camilla does not get this much hate. True. That is because I have NEVER heard Camilla speak. I have NEVER even heard Kate speak. I have seen pictures of these ladies from time to time and that's it. These ladies do not give me a vibe of Megalomania the way Meghan does.

Now this does not mean I am saying that women should keep quiet! No. What I am saying is, I have never seen Kate, Camilla, or rather any other lady from the royal family give out a vibe of ME ME ME ME ME. The whole monarchy in my opinion is an archaic institution that should be abolished, so when I see these ladies, or any other royal member, all I see are super-rich people enjoying a life the rest of us can only dream about. I don't see Kate or Camilla give interviews about 'OH POOR ME, I AM SO OPPRESSED' at the drop of a hat. I don't see them lie all the time or spew venom against everyone else. I don't see them ghosting their families that they grew up with before joining royalty. I don't see them indulging in shady endeavors. Meghan on the other hand is entangled in a web of lies right now, her whole life seems to be a preparation for being the next Diana, every move calculated precisely for maximum impact of keeping her in news as the permanent victim of this 'horrible, misogynist, racist' society. Oh Poor Lonely Sad Meghan.

Today the world, or at least a substantial portion of humanity online, is divided into Team Meghan or Team-whatever-the-hell-is-the-other-side. And just think about it for a second. What for? Who does any of this benefit? None of us for sure. Yet we all have a visceral reaction to a situation created by someone with a desire to be the most loved person on this planet. That's it. This is classic abuse of power and it sure rubs many people the wrong way. This is why so many people hate her. I don't hate her yet...but I do consider her a megalomaniac and for sure I cannot believe a single word coming out of her or her husband's mouth, after all the blatant lies they have been spouting in order to create their own power-couple empire.[/B]

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posted March 15, 2021 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1:

Did you see the Charlie Hebdo cartoon depicting The Queen suffocating St. Meghan? How repulsive is that! I have no love for the monarchy. It will take a lot for me to forgive an institution that enslaved my country and treated us like animals. but EVEN I FOUND THAT CARTOON OFFENSIVE. But they drew it just because Meghan said that happened. She felt 'suffocated'.

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LOL I didn't even read all of your comment. I take back what I said before. You are simply dumb. Is the bad weather her fault as well?

posted March 16, 2021 10:52 AM            

Does anyone REALLY believe that?

posted March 16, 2021 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by dragonflies:
Since this really doesn't concern your life, you have to ask yourself only one question: Why does this bother you so much? You blow something unimportant out of proportions: the whole humanity online is divided into two camps? Only in your head. I couldn't care less about the royal family and I don't know anything about them, but it bothers me when people report on people they do not know as if they did. That is arrogant and self-important and throwing around a severe personality disorder for a woman you simply do not like is disrespectful to victims from actual narcissists and other horrible people.

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Aww, did I hurt your little snowflake heart?

Do you feel happy about your life now?

Funny how you have to comment on my post and call me dumb asking me 'why something bothers me' while I can ask the same to you, Why Did My Post Bother You?

You couldn't 'care less' about the royal family, you don't know Meghan or the royal family either, yet you spent at least 5 minutes reading my long-ass post and then commenting on it. Yup, that is a very smart way of spending your time on something you don't care about.

You have to ask yourself-by your own wisdom that you were trying to impart to me- why does my post bother you so much? You don't know me. How dumb are you?

Now, if you care to deal with other human beings in a rational, cool manner without calling them names, you may proceed to listen to my reasoning

1- I agree, I should not have said 'the whole world'. The reason for that was, the day I posted it, there was a huge twitter trend going on, I am working in online marketing industry and I spend a long time online surrounded by twitter, insta trends and hashtags. It gets to me sometimes and I have to disassociate myself from the online world time to time or else I only feel that the online world is the real world. *sigh* That definitely is an over-reaction on my part. Even I am sometimes surprised by why I feel the online world is the real world when it is not true. I need a different, better job. *Double sigh*

2- Now, apart from that over-reaction on my part, which other portion of my post bothered you? I did not make a post of 'oh I hate her, she is a narcissist, I don't like her'. I gave clearly verifiable reasons. Truth that is out there. And inferences drawn from that only.

3- You are right, I do not know her or the royal family. However, I do know someone who worked closely with her. I put that in my post too. I know someone personally who vouches for her horrible behavior with the 'little people'. Again, my post was not about 'hating' someone based on their looks or smile or any such superficial thing. I think I did a pretty detailed job of all the lies and manipulation that is visible and verifiable in public arena.

4- I don't hate her. I try not to hate anybody. But again, I think an important point you are trying to raise is that why people attack public personalities without knowing them personally. That's a nice point I agree. I have never attacked anyone due to some petty jealousy or enviousness. That's just stupid.

However, when a public personality demands me to trust them, love them, sympathize with them, beams into my living room for 2 hours and plays the victim card or race card or gender card-then they better be ready to face the fire. Fair enough?! I am within my rights to criticize a book, a movie, a song because I spent my money and time in reading/watching that. Why would the rules be different if I am talking about a personality who lives on my money? Oprah earned money due to me as an audience member. The royal family lives on the money of the British public. Harry and Meghan have taken Diana's money a large portion of which came from her divorce settlement which in turn again was British Public's money.

My sister is a British Citizen. She has every right to criticize someone if they create a fake drama after living an extravagant lifestyle because of her taxes. I am her proxy here,if you will

5- Finally, I know that it does not matter. My voice does not matter in the larger scheme of things. It does not matter what I think-the royal family is not going to change because of me. The world will not stop spinning because of me. But somehow I feel that keeping quiet in the face of injustice is wrong and forums like these is a way for normal people like us to give an outlet to our emotions.

I wrote this elsewhere on this forum- 'Monsters like Harvey Weinstein were protected, cherished, loved and embraced by the likes of left-progressive-rich-influential-Hollywood-elites like Oprah, Clooney, Meryl Streep and so on for DECADES. Now the same coterie exists around Harry and Meghan. I am not comparing her to a rapist. I am saying that when powerful rich influential people abuse their power and position, bad things happen, results are often disastrous for normal people. And I hate that.'

I believe that injustice, lies, manipulation hurt everyone down the line. We did not know Harvey Weinstein either, did we? But the signs were there and nobody spoke up. Now when a powerful couple, who can use their power for doing something good, uses it to play the victim card, race card, they are infact making it more difficult for genuine victims out there. Ask anyone who works on the ground with real racial issues and women rights issues. How damaging it is when powerful people misuse these issues for their personal gains.

These are powerful important people. And with great power comes great responsibility. And using lies and manipulation (all verifiable) to further your own selfish agenda...does not sit well with me and a lot of people. And maybe it does not matter if I see powerful people do something bad and speak up, even if on this forum. But I still will. It is the only thing I can do.

Maybe I am dumb

Why are you so angry?

posted March 17, 2021 07:43 AM            

Harry is just as much responsible if not more.

What did he think was going to happen when he brought MM to live with the royals? Did he really not know his own family and what life there is like?

Is Harry possibly using MM unconsciously as a way to get back at his family for Diana, as an act of defiance?

Was harry really so naive as to how things would turn out if he mixed MM with his family? Did he not know anything about them before meeting her or what?

These are all rhetorical questions but it seems she really takes the brunt whereas he has been trying to stick it to the royal family via debacles ever since he was young.

Diana's naivety I can understand more. She was just a teen when she met Charles and was only 20 when they married. And she had yet to expose the world to the truth about the hardships that comes from the royal family.

But Megan and Harry (should) have had a better idea what to expect, especially regarding how traditional they are compared to MM and her upbringing. Did both of them really have their head in the sand?

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1Maybe I am dumb

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No, maybe you are smart for seeing through her shenanigans

I also think it is useful to share your opinion on the matter, even if you are just one voice. If many people do that, that voice becomes stronger and does have effect. And yes, it’s not ok to label someone with a disorder or accuse them of something when you personally don’t know them, but we’re basing ourselves here on known facts that can’t be ignored. Remember, silence is also violence.

For those who are still doubting, here’s a video that sums up the 6 common traits of a narcissist by using Meghan Markle as an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAhVg9cUo0

Despite a lot of people are calling Harry now a ******* for getting it on with Meghan, 0:54 made me feel for him

and rofl when he said ‘she’s capable of anything’, like who is capable of *anything*? Just shows how much he fell for her ‘image of perfection’.

I think the last trait of cutting off people when they are no longer useful to her is illustrated in her chart as her Moon/Saturn/Jupiter conjunction which opposes her Pholus.

Moon conjunct Saturn can make someone cold and detached and view people whom they are intimate with as businesses. The asteroid Zero which conjuncts her moon only emphasizes this further as to having 'zero emotions' for people close to her . I’m afraid that Jupiter here is only enlarging the saturn /moon conjunction and not really doing much good. All of this is opposing her pholus (which is interestingly conjunct Swindle(=use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions)) known to be associated with ' making a U-turn' and I think because it is opposite, the 'U-turn' interpretation of Pholus is most fitting which of course fits her behavior of suddenly doing a 180 degrees on people close to her and cutting them off all of a sudden when she sees them no longer as a benefit in her pursuit for more money, fame and power.

Her hybris/Ixion conjunction is in the sign of Scorpio btw, which makes her push her luck to the extreme by being emotionally manipulative.

She does remind me of Teal Swan, including their mothers have similarities I find. They’re both these seemingly do-gooder hippies who have this holier-than-thou disingenuousness about them because of feeling morally superior, ugh.

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Might there be a glint of "jealousy" hidden in the undertones of calling her a narcissist?

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Wow Mirage, you seem to have a track record of siding with every covert narcissist claiming to be a victim.

First your neighbor, then Teal Swan, now Megan Markle...I guess as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions :S

You might want to reconsider doing that, because if you’re wrong, the real victims in such scenarios are tremendously hurt by enablers like you.

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Originally posted by mirage29:While I watched the Oprah interview,
the name of an asteroid popped into my head.
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Just like some others here, I too am wondering what the name of this mysterious asteroid is you're referring to?? Or did you pull this one out of your ass? It's also ironic how you seem to base your perception of her as a 'brave, do-gooder and genuine victim' on just 1 asteroid...

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Originally posted by Belage:
With Cancer Mars in her 12th house, she is unable to see what she does that makes people angry at her. She is unable to see her own actions, and Mars in Cancer will play the victim. What? Poor me!

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Good find! I also noticed this and it’s an aspect that doesn’t make sense for those who claim she is supposedly so brave with her open activism against prejudice and racism. The 12th house is also about secrecy and hidden affairs.

This interpretation I copy/ pasted below is also quite telling: from: https://i.thehoroscope.co/mars-in-12th-house-how-it-impacts-ones-life-and-personality/

..Individuals having Mars in the 12th House hate conflicts and are passive when someone picks on them.

They can exaggerate small incidents and usually aim their aggressiveness in the wrong direction. Expressing their anger in a nonverbal way, by slamming doors and making short, mean remarks, they may not feel anger in the moment of an incident, realizing they should be furious days after things have happened.

Their problems with unresolved feelings of rage have something to do with the complexes they used to feel in their family, as children. They can’t acknowledge, own and experience their own anger and repress it, projecting what’s coming from outside towards them, not the other way around.
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posted March 18, 2021 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
Megan is really being scape goated here.

Harry is just as much responsible if not more.

What did he think was going to happen when he brought MM to live with the royals? Did he really not know his own family and what life there is like?

Is Harry possibly using MM unconsciously as a way to get back at his family for Diana, as an act of defiance?

Was harry really so naive as to how things would turn out if he mixed MM with his family? Did he not know anything about them before meeting her or what?

These are all rhetorical questions but it seems she really takes the brunt whereas he has been trying to stick it to the royal family via debacles ever since he was young.

Diana's naivety I can understand more. She was just a teen when she met Charles and was only 20 when they married. And she had yet to expose the world to the truth about the hardships that comes from the royal family.

But Megan and Harry (should) have had a better idea what to expect, especially regarding how traditional they are compared to MM and her upbringing. Did both of them really have their head in the sand?

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Interesting viewpoint.

I think MM is taking the brunt of the criticism because she is doing most of the talking.

posted March 26, 2021 07:18 AM            

Careful with this - it could just mean she didn’t realise how much WORK it would be.
The Royals have planners and these kick off around 9am.
Queen is a job and so are the other titles .
Also, remember Kate had to be trained how to act in public .. for something like 10 years. She was not considered “ready.”
Meghan likes herself the way she is and perhaps did not want to bend. I imagine her planner was filled mostly with training about being someone else and fitting into a mould.

Also, she appears to have a bone to pick. And people with a bone to pick are not so keen on taking orders.
Maybe thought she would be swanning around and not be told what to do and how to act and that she was not “ready” (read: not good enough for the part)

I do not understand why people hated her *before* she had done anything, though.
It is possible that this experienced animosity from others made her tip over and force more extreme measures from her?

However. Does anyone remember the series “I want to marry Harry” - in the U.S ? A Harry lookalike claiming to be the prince was looking for a bride and had a number of American ladies to choose from. A bit like the bachelor. I believe he left broken-hearted (?) when his chosen one ditched him after finding out he was an imposter ?
In any case, Americans were very aware Harry was an available bachelor. The point being some felt she had targeted Harry for his title and for what she “imagined” her life would be like at the royal court.

Perhaps she started to think more independently when she realised she hadn’t won that many people over. So she reverted to plan A, which was an acting / producing career in her home country.

She got Harry on board by convincing him he should make a film about his mother, the queen of hearts.
However, a film about Lady D means speaking out. Speaking out, means separating from the residual family of the buttoned lip of discretion.
This appealed to Harry’s wound of losing his mum, as well as to his rebellious streak. Like he would be saying what she could not voice.
Meanwhile, he and Meg would make a lot of money from that. Might they will be paid to keep quiet on some matters ? Or does Meg want to destabilise the monarchy for Harry’s “emotional rights” to tell the whole world about his loss?

I am sad she evoked racism (this reviving the concept when we thought Obama’s majority victory had rectified that!) as a big reason for leaving. I know the queen’s husband (possibly also his son Charles?) has a silly, dry sense of humour, which is very non p.c and deliberately outrageous, but he does it to everyone. He has Greek background -maybe it’s a cultural giggle or it’s just him rebelling in his own way. I wonder if it was him who made the gaff..

In any case, Meg is big on rights and has something to prove. I wonder if she is someone who can forgive easily, if all she does is break away or climb. That is the more dangerous side of this attitude.

Interesting how she did not seek an audience with the person who made the joke, in order to clarify her views, demanding an apology etc and solve it in private. Instead, she went running to Oprah.
.Is this really the correct procedure?
This perhaps confirms that she is not “ready” for the royal court .
She got the upper hand on the whole situation by going public, saying : We are leaving .
The implication now is the royal court is “not good enough“ for Megan as she wasn’t treated properly and neither was Harry , nor their child.

And it seems she would not wish to play second fiddle to Kate anyway, who acts correctly outwardly. (She still pole dances publically at parties in their basement, so don’t be fooled)

posted April 03, 2021 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1:
'OUR SECURITY WAS WITHDRAWN...OUR KID WAS NOT GIVEN TITLES OR SECURITY BECAUSE OF RACE'-Did they themselves not take up any title because they wanted Archie to have a normal life? Aren't there strict rules about who gets security and title and who doesn't-sure its a stuffy outdated institution that runs on archaic rules but that is the reason and not race, right?

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and this letter from George V declaring any great grandchildren of the monarch doesn't get the prince titles. She could've EASILY googled (oh, forgot she doesn't google the Royal Family LOL) or asked her secretary or her HUSBAND about this letter lol

The rules about who gets to be a prince and also be referred to as his royal highness (HRH) come from a letter patent issued by King George V in November 1917.

Letters patent are legal instruments which may take the form of an open letter from the monarch. They may be used for royal declarations or the granting of titles such as peerages.

In the 1917 letter, George V declared that the great-grandchildren of the monarch would no longer be princes or princesses, except for the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.

In our current situation, that means that Prince George, the eldest son of Prince William, automatically became a prince, but not Archie, even though they are both great-grandsons of the Queen.

Under this protocol, Prince George's siblings - Charlotte and Louis - would not have received the title either.

But in December 2012, the Queen also issued a letter patent which said that all of Prince William's children would be entitled to be princes or princesses and get the HRH title.

Also, being a prince or princess only goes through the male line, which means that the children of Princess Anne did not get those titles despite being the Queen's grandchildren.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56325934#:~:text=The%20rules%20about%20who%20gets,George%20V%20in%20November%201917.

posted April 03, 2021 03:40 PM            

(through energy working) Since I've adapted to reeling in energy when needed, it means I stand back when possible. Owning my energy and deciding how/where and when to share+spend it + on who. So I'm probably diagnosed by outsiders as a narcissistic too.

I ran accross a licenced Therapist on Yt not long ago. He stated that we all are and it's part of a natural fight/flight within us. Thinking back to all the way back diagnosis lists that have changed since they once were in high use. ADHD for one, it's been debated. We really either like people or we don't. We are pleasers or we are not. (btw I spent my life as a ppl pleaser and need seriously to quit that, therefore it is me first) We can be weirdos - or not. guilty of the last most def. Hey - 3×Uranus makes it true.

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I agree with you, Moon.

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posted April 03, 2021 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Thanks Teasel. How's your tooth?

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My gum is swollen again, I woke up that way today. :/ I might have been gritting my teeth in my sleep. I didn't get enough sleep, and am grouchy right now, so I'm going to get out of the house, and see if that helps a bit. Thank you for asking.

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Originally posted by teasel:
My gum is swollen again,

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Hi Teasel,
Do consider Hyalugel. It reduces swelling, pain and accelerates healing.

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http://astrologicalmusings.com/horoscope-of-prince-harry-and-princess-meghan/

Indian astrology slant

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posted April 09, 2021 10:09 PM            

The answer is no. She may come across one because of her defensive and fear based way of thinking. She looks out for things, reads between the lines and has a paranoid tendency. She is also private and expects for the worst. That's what I see. She reacts with attitude or anger to situations like that and she has deep trust issues. She also feels extremely vulnerable.

But she has mild psychosis and is a bit deluded.

Also, she felt culture shock in the royal house, and also disliked their traditions and looked down on it. She also found them arrogant. She just dislikes them in general and felt uncomfortable there. I also see the royal family was actually nice to her and open minded towards her but because of her psychosis and culture shock she misinterpreted some things and took other things too seriously or personally.

That's what the chart I read said.