posted July 09, 2019 05:21 PM            

When will this end? I just want her out and the Queen telling her to bog off

posted July 09, 2019 08:09 PM            

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posted July 09, 2019 08:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is not an answer to this question but she is very introverted---almost total bottom half of chart with planets, so she is not as she appears to be, through no fault of her own. She has a hard chart. I can't imagine how she would fit into that family.

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I have most of my planets on the bottom of my chart too and i am an ENFP

posted July 09, 2019 09:55 PM            

But I think it's good for her if she's a narc ?? You need a bit of it to survive in Royal Families.

posted July 10, 2019 08:19 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
It's easy to switch the cameras... one touch and it becomes a selfie...hehh. What was the other dude doing taking a pic of a guy taking a selfie...........with the court(I almost forgot) tho ? *Just an innocent quesn you Kno***

But I think it's good for her if she's a narc ?? You need a bit of it to survive in Royal Families.

Catherine does seem to be a perfect fit on the other hand tho, as if she has been there the whole life.

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lol, the guy was trying to take a pic of him with the court in the background.

posted July 10, 2019 09:09 AM            

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posted July 12, 2019 11:32 AM            

anyway saying you don't want pictures taken of you even if people aren't currently taking pictures of you when you have a big name and a lot of attention on you is hardly narcissistic

npd is a real disorder and it causes a lot of damage both to the person who has it and the people in their lives, there's a specific criteria a person has to fit and a lot of it is in regards to antisocial behavior and a lack of empathy, sense of entitlement etc

posted March 09, 2021 10:14 AM            

Harry himself also said 'what Meghan wants, is what Meghan gets"

posted March 09, 2021 10:53 AM            

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posted March 09, 2021 11:25 PM            

Anyway, astrologically:

There is something about Great Britain and the Pluto in Cancer/Capricorn axis at 25 degrees that signals great stress and loss for the country and specifically the royals, and it seems to come from the US.

US going through Pluto return, at 25 degrees of Capricorn.

Same location PLuto was when in 1776, US declared independence from Great Britain, which was a major loss for the royals.

In the 1930s, Wallis Simpson got involved with the King of England who abdicated the throne to marry her, Pluto was around 25 degrees of Cancer, opposite where Pluto is now in Capricorn.

Similarity between Wallis Simpson and MM:

Both came from America
Both are divorcees

Uncanny, isn't it?

posted March 10, 2021 07:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
What makes MM so dislikable by so many? I think she’s trying too hard to be likable and relevant. And it gives the opposite effect.
I mean there’re many self-absorbed and ignorant famous people, but not many of them so dislikable. Probably, even Duchess Camilla didn’t get so much hate.
Pluto sq. AC and Saturn opposite MC?

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Pluto sq ASC - Absolutely. MC governs "reputation" but that's post-facto reputation. ASC is our active personality so represents how we actually are - and thinking an axe murderer is mother theresa is nonsensical. Moon governs "reputation" as well but it's a reflective kind of interpretation (whole, overview), and also governs public perception(acceptance/nonacceptance).

posted March 10, 2021 02:12 PM            

lyrics .. why do "so many" people hate her so much?

(music) Stepsister's Lament {funny!}
(Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella)
[2:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDTmDclIvj8

lyrics
- http://genius.com/Veanne-cox-and-natalie-deselle-stepsisters-lament-lyrics

*~

Many people admire her.
To me, she's incredibly brave.

A big part of the 'drama' news about the couple in the tabloids is 'manufactured content' designed to sell scandal sheets.
.. Dealing with that is part of the discussion during the Oprah Interview.

While I watched the Oprah interview,
the name of an asteroid popped into my head.

I looked it up-- and it was INDEED important, being in the most-elevated part of Meghan's chart, conjunct her MC.

Astrologically, .. seems to indicate
persecution,
harassment,
being the victim of prejudice,
having one's talents or worth as a 'human being' disregarded.

ref. {from Mark Andrew Holmes'
asteroid-research website)

Placement in Meghan's Western Chart
MC is Aries 11.48'17" ... decl 4.40'04" N
the asteroid conjuncts the MC/H9
in Aries 11.29'31" ... decl 5.02'55" N

This asteroid's aspects (from the MC) is
square Mars Cancer 11.27
.. (Mars conjunct Africa) H12
trine Sun Leo 11.59
.. (Sun conjunct Africano) H1

Transiting asteroid approaching its Return,
t-Aries 3.14 H9

{Not going to delineate more of these asteroids},

Seems to say that she's a Mom,
fighting for her baby son--
and being proactive in discerning prejudicial blocks and limits (as she sees them) on his life.

I LOVE that she speaks WELL of The Queen, and her Kindness!!

One of the reasons for her on this planet may be (MC Aries w/asteroid trine Sun h1)
bringing added awareness OF the issue of prejudice.

*For Such A Time A This*
Synchronicity of this issue with the rise of concerns regarding Black Racial matters is so timely.

Her husband (Harry)
Uranus 9+ and Mars 16+ Sagittarius in 11th House ..
Fire trine to wife's (Meghan) MC and Sun.

Part of their Mission as a couple.
may be to help bring awareness to Prejudice -- found in various forms in Society H11.

His Overcoming-Prejudice asteroid is in Libra 29.25 H9
conjunct his PLUTO Scorp 0.33 H9.

* Harry's MC is Scorpio 17.02..
MC conjuncts his son's (Archie) DESC Scorp 13+,
* where Archie has the Overcoming-Prejudice asteroid
in Scorpio 23.01 rx, in his H7,
sextile and trine his nodes cj MC/IC Capr Canc axis.

posted March 10, 2021 04:19 PM            

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While I watched the Oprah interview,
the name of an asteroid popped into my head.

I looked it up-- and it was INDEED important, being in the most-elevated part of Meghan's chart, conjunct her MC.

Astrologically, .. seems to indicate
persecution,
harassment,
being the victim of prejudice,
having one's talents or worth as a 'human being' disregarded.

ref. {from Mark Andrew Holmes'
asteroid-research website)

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What asteroid are you talking about?

posted March 10, 2021 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
What makes MM so dislikable by so many? I think she’s trying too hard to be likable and relevant. And it gives the opposite effect.
I mean there’re many self-absorbed and ignorant famous people, but not many of them so dislikable. Probably, even Duchess Camilla didn’t get so much hate.
Pluto sq. AC and Saturn opposite MC?

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posted March 11, 2021 02:50 PM            

I found his connection to Meghan worthwhile to mention. This especially given what is happening. He is so invested in her existence right now. His progressed Sun in Gemini is conjunct Meghan's Draco Moon.🤔

In Meghan's chart, progressed Sun in Virgo is exactly opposing Neptune. And true to the polarizing spirit of the opposition, there are two camps. In one she is "victim". In the other, she is "vile"🤷🏿‍♂️

Sat is opp progMars and Ura is square progMars.Mars rules Mc & her reputation is taking a beating.

Pluto conj Dsc, the public has strong feelings regarding her. Whether they feel protective of her. Or want to just get rid of her.🤷🏿‍♂️

I wondered why people don't trust her or think her "conniving" etc. The ruler of her 12th(Gem) is in house 1 on conjuncts Sun. Lots of people projecting all sorts of things on her.

posted March 11, 2021 02:55 PM            

Ura opp prog Merc.Shocking revelations. Sat square Merc. Words that carry weight.

I think what's relevant is to look at the 3rd house of siblings. His relationship with William is affected. Ruler of natal 3rd house(Mars) 17 Sag was eclipsed by trans Nep by square. Loss. Confusion and distance there.

Sat also rules the 1st house.Pressure from Ura/Sat by opp/square respectively is changing his self image. He will not be the same "Harry" after this is done.

William's prog Sun is opp trans Sat. And it squares transUra.Prog Merc opp Sat/Ura. Pressure there.Add to that natal 3rd house is ruled by Mars(Aries 3rd house).

Prog Mars is square transPlu.The bond with his brother is going through a big upheaval. This is the significant thing that is happening here.

Charles has progSun square Ura/conj Sat. But what's noteworthy is to note that ruler of the 5th of children (natal Mars) has Neptune square it. A distancing from children. Or confusion there.

The Queen has progr Sun 1Leo,Moon 28Cap & Mars 26Ari.Prince Phillip is likely to pass on this year.

Trans Plu is conj her Moon(ruler of the 7th of partner)& Asc.This is indicative of upheavals or loss. I suspect Phillip. But family too which tests her self identity (1st) or image.

Venus Pis 13 conj transNep(ruler of Ic). Family changes.Plu square Mars(Mc ruler). Image changes.

posted March 14, 2021 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
What makes MM so dislikable by so many? I think she’s trying too hard to be likable and relevant. And it gives the opposite effect.
I mean there’re many self-absorbed and ignorant famous people, but not many of them so dislikable. Probably, even Duchess Camilla didn’t get so much hate.
Pluto sq. AC and Saturn opposite MC?

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This is a part of my reply on other thread about Harry and Meghan. Why exactly is she disliked-yup, something I thought about a lot too, especially in past week. Before her marriage, I really did not care about this person. All I knew was she was an actress on suits, a show I semi-liked and she played her character fine. All I thought was, '2 people love each other and in the process they are also bringing a fresh modern touch to an outdated institution, good'. It is the constant red flags thereafter..

She has GHOSTED her entire family pre-harry. ENTIRE FAMILY. Except her mom. No father, No half-siblings, no nieces,nephews,cousins, NOBODY. Who does this??? In the Oprah interview, she said she met her half-sister 18 or so years ago. NOPE. There is a photo of them together in 2008.

Where are her CHILDHOOD FRIENDS? There is a picture of her posing in front of Buckingham Palace with a friend when she was 15. Her friend of 30 years confirmed that she 'wanted to be the next version of people's princess'. Consequence? GHOSTED. Friend of 30 FREAKING YEARS. GONE.

She got ahead in Hollywood thanks to her previous marriage with a hollywood executive with connections. Once she got Suits, BYE BYE. GONE. Sent her marriage ring in MAIL.

The ONLY FRIENDS she has now? All the rich, influential, famous people in media and entertainment industries. Oprah, Clooney, Beyonce, actors, media moghuls, beauty queens, producers, the ones gracing the magazine covers, the who's who of global top 1% population.

And this is all okay. After all, there is nothing wrong with being ambitious. There is nothing wrong with being a social climber. And it is not easy either. For seducing the who's who of the global rich and influential list, one has to be charming, good conversationalist, intelligent, well-read, well-versed in global issues, witty...clearly she is all of these things. So even for people who call her a gold digger, an ambitious social climber, I say, so what? That's the skill she has and she employs it. Good for her.

It is the constant manipulation and 'POOR ME, SWEET ANGEL ME, LOVE ME, HUG ME, WORSHIP ME' attitude that bugs me and has bugged a lot of people from the beginning. It is the incessant lying. And playing the victim card. The references to RACE and GENDER that have broken the internet and now there is a rabid 'woke' group out there hailing her as the next messiah.

The ultimate was the Oprah 'bombshell'. 2 hours of 2 millionaires sitting and lying through their teeth-

'I DID NOT RESEARCH THE WORLD I WAS ENTERING'-after confirmed reports from her childhood friends that she was obsessed with Diana and wanted to be Diana 2.0, read her books, watched her videos, watched the funeral, copied her dressing style etc. etc. Oh and she used to write a blog 'The TIG' where she had used a very envious line of 'look at all the pomp and splendor surrounding Kate's wedding' right before Kate and William's wedding. So yeah, she did not know anything about the royal family or Harry before she met him ...RIIIIIIIGHT

'I NEEDED HELP AND WENT TO THE INSTITUTION AND THEY SAID IT WON'T BE GOOD FOR THEM'-This, after her own husband has gone on record saying he got therapy to get over his mother's loss, and didn't Diana get psychiatric help while living in Buckingham Palace? And isn't HARRY BLOODY WELL A PART OF A MENTAL HEALTH CHARITY??? And all he does is sit there saying 'I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO'!!!

'OUR SECURITY WAS WITHDRAWN...OUR KID WAS NOT GIVEN TITLES OR SECURITY BECAUSE OF RACE'-Did they themselves not take up any title because they wanted Archie to have a normal life? Aren't there strict rules about who gets security and title and who doesn't-sure its a stuffy outdated institution that runs on archaic rules but that is the reason and not race, right?

'MY PASSPORT WAS TAKEN AWAY, MY KEYS WAS TAKEN AWAY, I WAS A PRISONER, I DID NOT LEAVE THE PALACE MORE THAN 2 TIMES IN A 4 MONTH PERIOD'-Ummm, I am in India and I do not recall a single 4 month period where we did not read about this royal couple travelling and frolicking somewhere on this planet. Without passport?? Didn't she have a high-class baby shower in LA with her rich and powerful friends and if she was such a prisoner I am sure her private-jet toting friends would have helped her there. Unless she insinuates that the palace had professional assassins to keep tabs on her or physically restrain her???

'My WIFE WAS RACIALLY ATTACKED AND NOBODY FROM MY FAMILY SAID ANYTHING'-Umm, again, I am in India and we are not obsessed with your family but we do get important news from time to time. The 'attacks' on your wife were done by the vermin who work in tabloids and they did the same to Kate. I remember before the Kate-William wedding, even our newspapers were splashed with rumors, gossip, salacious details of Kate's life and words like 's**t , floozy, second hand, katy waity' were routinely used for her. We got to know about her dating past, there were discussions on chat boards around the world and comments in youtube videos if William is going to marry a 'used tissue paper', how 'flat chested' she was. All this and more. NOBODY spoke up or defended her then either and this was not racially motivated was it? Diana was hounded and that was not racial either was it? Hasn't Camilla been called a dog in the same tabloids? Hasn't Charles been called a loser, old twat and what not? What's wrong is wrong for everyone and not just for someone playing the race card, right?

I was a scholarship student and went to a college which I could not have otherwise afforded, and had some classmates coming from extremely rich families. One of them has a sister who works in an NGO that Meghan works with too. She was even invited to the royal wedding and has met and worked with Meghan quite a number of times over the past 5 years. After the Oprah airing, I was talking to my friend and he simply said, 'Do NOT believe a word of that. My sister told me this woman is a chameleon. One thing for the cameras and another behind. Not a thing in front of the cameras is true. Not a thing.'

This is an NGO that works for menstrual hygiene of women in India (and probably some other countries too I am not sure) and Meghan has been associated with it for some time. One specific incident that my friend shared- his sister was in touch with Meghan's staff for some write-up about the NGO in some big publication. Meghan made one of her staff member's life hell and made her rewrite the piece at least a dozen times just to make her cry. In the end she used the 2nd draft but my friend's sister said that the staff girl was terrified of getting an email from Meghan. TERRIFIED. She was an intern, all of 18. Talk about empathy and compassion of a women rights activist. Reminded me of reports of Meghan's staff in the palace being reduced to tears.

I don't know what exact astrological indicators in her chart show this, but so many people dislike her because she brings it upon herself. I don't remember where I read this, perhaps on twitter, but someone explained this very nicely- 'People love Diana because they could sense the goodness in her, people hate Meghan because they sense the darkness in her.'

I agree. If you join the dots of everything Meghan has said and done, in all the years she has been in the spotlight, all that stands out is a darkness. There is something shady about the way she has dealt with people all her life. People close to her, unless they can provide her with an advantage, are ghosted. Every time she opens her mouth, every article she pens down, every time she appears on a tv show, it is all about her struggles, her generosity, her selflessness, her fight, her loneliness. ME ME ME ME ME. For a woman rights activist, I find it strange that she does not have a word of empathy or compassion to share for any other woman. If even once she called out the tabloids on how they have treated Kate in a repulsive manner before and right after her marriage to William, I would consider her a genuine activist. Alas, no. The only thing she shared? Kate made me cry. Boohoo, poor Meghan.

She does not bring people together. She gives a sense of division. She gives a vibe of megalomania. She gives a sense of 'here is my act for you. Do you like it? Can you see the pain in my eyes? Will you love me now?'

Did you see the Charlie Hebdo cartoon depicting The Queen suffocating St. Meghan? How repulsive is that! I have no love for the monarchy. It will take a lot for me to forgive an institution that enslaved my country and treated us like animals. but EVEN I FOUND THAT CARTOON OFFENSIVE. But they drew it just because Meghan said that happened. She felt 'suffocated'.

This was no coincidence. She used 2 hours worth of VICTIM card, played the RACE card as expected and got her legion of worshippers from among the left woke ecosystem (and Harry is not blemish-less, he sat there and lied alongside, he is complicit). That interview was designed and aired to portray everybody in British Royal Family as racist, cold, mean, bullies while cementing Meghan's position as a sweet, selfless, charismatic, poor, angelic, long-suffering, graceful, victim, the 'true owner of the crown', the 'queen the world needs'.

This is what Meghan does. She is the perennial victim who tries too hard to come across as a 'good' person. Genuinely good people do not try to look good. They just are. Her act is what makes her one of the most hated people on the planet today.

You raised a good point-even Camilla does not get this much hate. True. That is because I have NEVER heard Camilla speak. I have NEVER even heard Kate speak. I have seen pictures of these ladies from time to time and that's it. These ladies do not give me a vibe of Megalomania the way Meghan does.

Now this does not mean I am saying that women should keep quiet! No. What I am saying is, I have never seen Kate, Camilla, or rather any other lady from the royal family give out a vibe of ME ME ME ME ME. The whole monarchy in my opinion is an archaic institution that should be abolished, so when I see these ladies, or any other royal member, all I see are super-rich people enjoying a life the rest of us can only dream about. I don't see Kate or Camilla give interviews about 'OH POOR ME, I AM SO OPPRESSED' at the drop of a hat. I don't see them lie all the time or spew venom against everyone else. I don't see them ghosting their families that they grew up with before joining royalty. I don't see them indulging in shady endeavors. Meghan on the other hand is entangled in a web of lies right now, her whole life seems to be a preparation for being the next Diana, every move calculated precisely for maximum impact of keeping her in news as the permanent victim of this 'horrible, misogynist, racist' society. Oh Poor Lonely Sad Meghan.

posted March 14, 2021 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Piers Morgan has progressed Sun in Gem. When he lost it on air yesterday and walked out of "Good Morning Britain" for being called out for slandering remarks about Meghan, transiting Mars was conjunct progress Sun(exact). 😶

I found his connection to Meghan worthwhile to mention. This especially given what is happening. He is so invested in her existence right now. His progressed Sun in Gemini is conjunct Meghan's Draco Moon.🤔

In Meghan's chart, progressed Sun in Virgo is exactly opposing Neptune. And true to the polarizing spirit of the opposition, there are two camps. In one she is "victim". In the other, she is "vile"🤷🏿‍♂️

Sat is opp progMars and Ura is square progMars.Mars rules Mc & her reputation is taking a beating.

Pluto conj Dsc, the public has strong feelings regarding her. Whether they feel protective of her. Or want to just get rid of her.🤷🏿‍♂️

I wondered why people don't trust her or think her "conniving" etc. The ruler of her 12th(Gem) is in house 1 on conjuncts Sun. Lots of people projecting all sorts of things on her.

Draco Asc in Pisces 22 is conj transNep. We are all likely not seeing her clearly.

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He has also been used as an example of what men can be like, when you aren’t interested in dating them.

posted March 14, 2021 07:55 PM            

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