posted August 28, 2019 01:07 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Graham, what are your thoughts on the tridecile? 108 degree aspect?

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The following comments apply to all planet cycles :-

1. The faster moving planet is being shaped/changed by the slower moving planet.

2. How it is being shaped (for all those born between the previous and next conjunctions) is revealed by the sign, house and degree locations of those two conjunctions. ... In effect, the previous conjunction reveals "where the two-planet-task/change is coming from" (i.e.. what is changing) - and the next conjunction reveals "where it is going to" (ie.. what the result will be).

3. How each individual born during the change cycle is being shaped will be revealed by the phase relationship, sign, house and degree of the two planets at the time of birth.

4. If the faster-moving planet has not yet reached the degree of opposition with the slower-moving planet, the person has not yet fully grasped/understood the shaping-message. And the phase relationship will reveal the extent to which he/she has done so.

posted August 28, 2019 02:28 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Graham, what are your thoughts on the tridecile? 108 degree aspect?

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The following comments apply specifically to the 108-degrees tridecile aspect.

1. If the faster-moving planet has moved beyond the degree of opposition with the slower-moving planet, the person will be exemplifying/walking-the-walk of whatever evolutionary change is revealed by the previous and last conjunctions of the two planets. ... And, if it has not yet reached that point, the slower-moving planet will be 'actively persuading" the person to to recognise the need for that change in his/her behaviour.

2. The decile = 10th harmonic = 5th harmonic x 2nd harmonic = externalising (2H) an (internal) ability to consciously recognise patterns (5H). ... So, this is a person whom David Hamblin might describe as "consciously striving to create order out of chaos" - with the 2H being the striving/effort element that attracts the attention of (and feedback from) others, which the person can then use to (appropriately) modify his/her behaviour. ... Hence, such people are able to "see" connections between things that others consider to be unrelated - and are able to grasp (via the external feedback) how to explain them in a way that enables others to "see" what they otherwise would not.

3. I suspect that the both the 5th and 7th harmonic aspects indicate an ability to "create order out of chaos" - but the pattern recognition is done consciously by the 5H person and unconsciously by the 7H person. ... Hence, the (seeming) irrationality that astrologers currently associate with the Septile aspect.

4. The 108 degree aspect is in either a (waxing) First Quarter phase or a (waning) Disseminating phase. ... In the waxing phase, the chart-owner is likely to be opinionated (and changing his/her views will be difficult). But, in the waning phase, those views will have become "set in tablets of stone" (and changing them - or the resulting crusader behaviour - will be impossible).

posted August 29, 2019 03:03 PM            

"3. I suspect that both the 5th and 7th harmonic aspects indicate an ability to "create order out of chaos" - but the pattern recognition is done consciously by the 5H person and unconsciously by the 7H person. ... Hence, the (seeming) irrationality that astrologers currently associate with the Septile aspect."

The whole relationship between chaos and order fascinates me! maybe this is my attraction to septiles and also quintiles.

Biseptile 102
Squine 105
Tridecile 108

posted August 30, 2019 11:30 AM              

19/65ths = 19/(5Hx13H) = 105degs 14mins

So ... is 105degs 07mins a 24th harmonic aspect, or a 65th harmonic aspect?

posted September 25, 2019 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI8nstxnb9k

The above video may be an example of the 7H ability to recognises patterns unconsciously ... (in the way that the 5H seems to be the ability to recognise patterns consciously).

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posted September 26, 2019 12:33 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Fascinating Graham! Perhaps this is why septiles via transit make you act "irrationally" bc you are subconsciously picking up on a pattern that you know is not working so you then make a decision that feels "irrational" to break away from it. This gives this fork on the road vibe and like you are making a decision that comes from your higher self or a higher power.

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So, 5H = Mercury reasoning ... 7H = Neptune knowing.

On the two occasions in my life when I have been aware of the 7H influence, I (or, rather the higher Neptunian-Self that had temporarily walked-in) seemed to "know" how all the other people involved in the event would behave ... which was the key to producing the outcome desired by "me"/the Neptune-Self. ... And, my guess is that 'knowing" came from subconsciously observing their behavioural patterns over a long period of time. ... Hence, the (unconscious) Neptune-Self did know something that the (conscious) ego-self was not aware of.

posted September 26, 2019 12:55 AM              

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Question, I know the septile will show as a conjunction in the 7th harmonic, but what does the bi and triseptile show up as?

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To ascertain how a natal aspect will show up in a harmonic chart, we multiply the degree distance of the natal aspect by the harmonic number - and subtract 360 degrees from the answer (until the remainder is less than 360 degrees)*. So :-

Septile = 51deg26 ... x 7 = 360degs ... = conjunction.

Bi-septile = 102deg52 ... x 7 = 720degs ... -360degs = 360degs ... = conjunction

Tri-septile = 154deg17 ... x 7 = 1080degs .. -720degs = 360degs ... = conjunction.

But, the 14H will show up as an opposition - because 25deg43 x 7 = 180degs = opposition.

posted March 22, 2020 11:02 PM            

December 2019:
Saturn conjunt Pluto.
Saturn sextile NEPTUNE

January 2020:
Neptune Semi-square Uranus (unexpectedly spreading to other parts of the world)*Kannon pointed this transit out
Saturn conjunt Pluto
Neptune septile Saturn (fork in the road, how we chose to respond to the now global crisis)

March 2020:
Saturn conjunt Pluto
Jupiter starts to conjunct Pluto and joins cappy stellium, making situation escalate further and world starting to really take notice, leaders start to act more aggressively with trying to contain spread, this starts to impact commerce and business more, businesses shut down, people are instructed to stay home.

Septiles are fork in the roads and have to do with character development. Is the 7th harmonic and is a very fated spiritual aspect.

This septile in January may have more to do with a fork on the road in the context of how the world will chose to respond to this crisis and this will impact our character development and spiritual growth collectively and in turn our future.

January 19, 2020
Neptune Septile Saturn 1.03 orb
Saturn conjunt Pluto

^Thoughts: How do we respond to this crisis? Saturn (fear, scarcity thinking, survival mode) or Neptune (faith, kindness and compassion)? Perhaps we chose to respond with Caution (saturn) to serve values connected to Neptune the higher octave of love (universal love, protecting each other, valuing life and the life of one another)?

posted March 23, 2020 01:56 AM            

"Saturn septile Neptune: Inspired by the combination of control and restraint with idealism, caringness and mystical significance; inspired by the idea of self-abnegation in the cause of humanity; able to express this creatively, depending on other aspects."
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/septile-7th-harmonic.php

posted March 23, 2020 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

Perhaps the 7th harmonic (non-intellectual pattern recognition) is impelling the world to finally see/understand how we really are "all in this together".

If so, it may be worth interpreting it in the context of the current Neptune-Pluto evolutionary cycle ... which (imo) is moving humanity towards a one-world-government "of the people, by the people, for the people".

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Yes! I like the "we are in this together" interpretation

I just realized yesterday Pluto is tri-vigintile Neptune. I am currently exploring the possibility that when two planets are vigintile it makes those two planets operate in a higher level from its most evolved place. Tri-vigintile and Septile coincidentally are really close together in aspect (51.25 & 54).

This aspect could also give us a clue perhaps to how we are responding to this global threat collectively.

Then again if vigintile means Open Doors to Higher Worlds and Pluto rules death and Neptune infectious and contagious diseases maybe this whole thing is about some souls moving on to a higher plane OR to help us evolve to a higher level spirituality depending on how we chose to deal with situation (saturn septile neptune).

posted March 24, 2020 11:46 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes! I like the "we are in this together" interpretation

I just realized yesterday Pluto is tri-vigintile Neptune. I am currently exploring the possibility that when two planets are vigintile it makes those two planets operate in a higher level from its most evolved place. Tri-vigintile and Septile coincidentally are really close together in aspect (51.25 & 54).

This aspect could also give us a clue perhaps to how we are responding to this global threat collectively.

Then again if vigintile means Open Doors to Higher Worlds and Pluto rules death and Neptune infectious and contagious diseases maybe this whole thing is about some souls moving on to a higher plane OR to help us evolve to a higher level spirituality depending on how we chose to deal with situation (saturn septile neptune).

I mean is interesting how saturn septile neptune and pluto tri-vigintile neptune are happening around the same time.

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Perhaps the septile/7th harmonic is the door through which Neptune can communicate with the person ... and the vigintile/20th harmonic is the door through which the person can communicate with Neptune.

20H = 4H x 5H = effort x conscious recognition of patterns = working to create order out of chaos.

7H = intuitive/unconscious recognition of patterns.

posted March 24, 2020 10:27 PM            

I also noticed I tend to have astral travel experiences with people I have asteroid pairs with that are vigintile/septile and were endymion and selene are strongly featured.

I met with Boston Rob in the dream world, it was a very nice dream. We made out lol. I was not into him in real life, I have never had a crush on him but after this dream I feel something for him like I feel I care about him, we definitely connected on a soul level, it felt like we accidentally ended up going on a date and really connected. I decided to take the initiative to give him my number in the dream and told him something along the lines of "no rush but at some point we should hang out again," he acknowledge he had a beautiful time with me and that it was special in a surprising way.

Later on many hours after the dream in the middle of a busy day I thought of him again like this feeling he also remembers the dream and was thinking of me.

I don't think he is my other half, I don't really believe in twin souls to be honest but a soulmate yes, sure, why not.

Regardless it was a lovely dream and I am glad we met in the dream world, it was fun plain and simple.

Naturally as an astrologer I have to look at his chart and our composite and our davison to see why I felt a connection with him and what could have triggered this astral travel experience...

So here it goes ladies and gentleman....

His Psyche SEPTILES my EROS EXACT
His Eros sextiles my Psyche (by 1d)
Tr Pluto/Mars/Jupiter are on his Eros

His Isis conjuncts my Osiris EXACT
His Osiris tri-vigintiles my Isis (under 1d, 53.2/54)
His Osiris conjuncts my Moon (My moon septiles my Isis, my Isis septiles my Osiris)
Tr Southnode/Tr Pholus/Tr Osiris are conjunct his SUN

Natal Mars in Gemini in the 12H conjuncts my Northnode Exact
Natal Mars in Gemini is part of two yods in his natal chart

He has Selene conjunct Endymion exact on Regulus on his natal (he must astral travel a lot)
My Endymion SEPTILES his SELENE conjunct ENDYMION (yep this was indeed an astral travel experience)
My Endymion conjuncts his AC
My Selene conjuncts his Northnode

His DC ruler Saturn conjuncts my EROS exact

His Psyche is in Gemini and all my soulmates seem to have Psyche in gemini, I have DC in gemini. Is a very prevalent repetitive pattern in my life so worth mentioning.

I have chiron inconjunct saturn and his sun on my cupido completes a YOD. He has Sun inconjunct Saturn and my Chiron completes a Yod for him and it turns into two yods and the two yods are connected.

His Jupiter conjuncts my Serendip (e.g. happy accident) and Tr Endymion was on this. Tr Sun and Tr Serendip were right on my IC and square his SUN.

Now Davison:

Chart Ruler MERCURY conjunct VENUS square the Nodes (skipped step) and inconjuncts the moon, tr saturn in aquarius will eventually trigger a yod to this from the 5th and go on to activate our eros conjunct psyche in davison on the 5H (our mercury conjunct venus falls on my chart ruler Jupiter conjunct Uranus)

Valentine trine and sextile the nodes (point of thales)

Jupiter conjunct Northnode

AC conjunct Saturn (fall on my SUN)

Neptune falls on my Southnode

Mars falls on my Venus conjunct Mars

Eros conjunct Psyche 7 degrees wide but given our synastry eros/psyche contacts worth mentioning

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I am not attached to any outcome about this actually, I don't have any attachment to this in any way but quite frankly it felt like a psychic dream when I told him "No rush, but we should hang out again." The no rush was very strong, like I really meant it, and it was like take as long as you need to type of thing. I feel that was like a soul contract we made in that dream, I don't know if we will meet in this life or in the next but this is the sense I got from this astral travel experience.

Eros septile Psyche
Eros sextile Psyche
Isis conjunct Osiris
Isis tri-vigintile Osiris (very close to been a septile actually 53.2)
Endymion septile Selene

posted April 28, 2020 01:32 PM            

I checked my husband's transits for that day.

Sun rules his IC.....

Sun was septile transit PLUTO in SCORPIO at 29 degrees (scorpio is intercepted in the 6th house).

posted August 19, 2021 12:45 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Hypatia,

The icons don't reflect in the charts without having to use my calculations. Are they reflecting as another aspect in 7th Harmonic?

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posted August 19, 2021 12:48 AM            

Guess not, was wrong.
I have tons of 1°+, squares,
Oppositions and a lot of quintiles. A few trines. Otherwise I'm full. I did have one but doubtful it is significant.
Pluto & DC.

Oh Hypatia, I do have Arabic Pt of Victory with my AC in I suppose septile. Go go go Sagittarius.

posted August 19, 2021 10:33 AM            

I looked at my 7th Harmonic and found three in my own chart:
Mars septile Mercury
Neptune tri-septile Sun
Uranus tri-septile DSC

I found this article:
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/septile-7th-harmonic.php

Sun septile Neptune: Inspired by ideals of service to others; inspired by the idea of sinking one's individuality in a wider cause; seeing oneself as a symbol of something greater than oneself.

The interpretation does resonate with me. I do feel like I am part of a greater whole and it is important for me to contribute to that in some way.

Mercury septile Mars: Inspired by the idea of a rational approach to action and sexuality, and by the idea of forceful, dynamic, rugged communication; impulsively communicating with great force.

The idea of a rational approach to action definitely appeals to me. But the part about rugged communication makes me chuckle a bit. I think it is not something I am aware of but people on the receiving end of my communication might experience the forcefull side more. I also have Mars parallel and antiscia Mercury, so it certainly is a theme. Mars is my H7 ruler so I wonder if that matters too.

Uranus septile Ascendant, DC, Midheaven or IC: Thrilling, brilliant, wild, shocking, rebellious, a law unto oneself.