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posted October 26, 2019 06:39 AM            

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I was just thinking of my Uncle, who remarried after losing his first wife (divorce - he cheated on her, and worked out of town a lot), and then when his second wife died (just weeks after my mother), he was immediately trying to replace her. When he visited us two months later, he came out to dinner with us, then to the bookstore (my weekly visit, at the time). He stayed out in the van for a while, and when dad went to see if he was okay, found him on the phone with a woman he'd never met in person, but was seriously talking to, with the possible intention of getting married. Two months after he lost his wife. He remarried his first wife, just over two months after that.

Grief may be an extreme example, but I don't see Capricorns as "zen" (something I saw in another thread). They might be at times (just like any of us), but not all the time. I used to be there for my sister, just as much as she was there for me. I wasn't any needier than she was, most of the time. Plus, we both wouldn't talk about personal things with most other people, for years. Again, not just an Earth sign thing. In some cases, because of privacy issues, in other cases, the usual not taking the chance of being judged, etc. My sister bought a book on etiquette, when she was working to get over social anxiety. She couldn't bear to look bad in public. I deal with social anxiety, too, but we deal with it differently. She has her husband, and keeps the social stuff going lightly with family. I stopped that when my sister destroyed my life, but I have friends. I talk online, whereas she stopped when she had one negative encounter on a message board, years ago. She is kind of needy in a different way, you'll just never see it, unless she's desperate. Which you'll never see, unless you're family.

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posted October 26, 2019 07:16 AM            

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That teasel, all of it.
As I've said I think neediness is very human and every sign is needy when life mistreats them, it's more about how we express it.
Earth signs tend to self judge for it way more than water ones, hence the cold, zen, whatever looks, but if capricorn is any way tough on needy people it's only in reaction to how tough they are with the fact they are huge balls of nervous nerves inside.
Capricorn doesn't dislike neediness, it fears it.

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posted October 26, 2019 10:27 AM            

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In my experience - and experiences shared by friends who have been involved with Capricorns - the answer would be no, Capricorns do not like needy people, because they don't tend to respect them. They will, however, tolerate them if there is some utility and benefit to associating with that person.

Capricorns do, however, seem to really get off on being "looked to" for sage advice and support. In some cases, you gotta like tough love and an even mildly nihilistic rhetoric, though. As long as don't expect them to take their own advice.

They seem similar to Crabs in some way, minus the enlarged empathy gland.

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posted October 27, 2019 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The short answer is yes. But it's not so much that they like needy people; it's more that they like being needed.

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posted October 28, 2019 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
My point exactly, though I have to disagree about Virgo. I feel if someone is needy in a way that irritates my moon, my sun isn't going to be gentler, something about virgo that makes them help by lecturing on how to help oneself rather than practically helping sometimes. Blissful rescue or annoying anti-help depending on the situation 😊
I feel Pisces is the go-to for "weak" needy.

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Yes Piscean/Neptunian natives are the first ones. The "cleanest" version of Virgo I've known is a woman with Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars in Virgo except of her Moon is in Taurus. However she has Mercury square Neptune and I know that aspect alone (I've experienced it a lot of times) is enough to attract and be attracted to the worst possible people into someone's life. But generally I see Virgos being the ones who would help weaker people even if they're harsh with them verbally, they still help practically. I see a tedency for Pisces & Virgos to be with weaker people who take advantage of them. I don't see that happening with Caps, Scorpio and Cancers unless again there are Neptune hard aspects in their charts. Anothe rexample is Aqua Sun and Mercury, Scorpio Moon, Cap Venus and Mars. Mars conjunction Neptune (exact). He wants to be a hero for the weaks, saves girls who are in need but I mean the worst possible scenarios. Then he looses respect and sees them as trash (His chart make shim a quite dynamic personality) and doesn't want them anymore in his life. It's like he realises that people don't change unless they want to. But he does the same thing again and again.

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posted October 28, 2019 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Yes Piscean/Neptunian natives are the first ones. The "cleanest" version of Virgo I've known is a woman with Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars in Virgo except of her Moon is in Taurus. However she has Mercury square Neptune and I know that aspect alone (I've experienced it a lot of times) is enough to attract and be attracted to the worst possible people into someone's life. But generally I see Virgos being the ones who would help weaker people even if they're harsh with them verbally, they still help practically. I see a tedency for Pisces & Virgos to be with weaker people who take advantage of them. I don't see that happening with Caps, Scorpio and Cancers unless again there are Neptune hard aspects in their charts. Anothe rexample is Aqua Sun and Mercury, Scorpio Moon, Cap Venus and Mars. Mars conjunction Neptune (exact). He wants to be a hero for the weaks, saves girls who are in need but I mean the worst possible scenarios. Then he looses respect and sees them as trash (His chart make shim a quite dynamic personality) and doesn't want them anymore in his life. It's like he realises that people don't change unless they want to. But he does the same thing again and again.

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O wow, sounds a lot like me some of that lol
I (Virgo) do love helping, it's a hobby, a calling and also some selfish thing as nothing makes me feel more validated as a person than having helped.
For example I don't go to a party unless I get to help prepare, otherwise I feel like I'm taking advantage or something.
Now, I do attract needy types but I also reject them (I have moon in Capricorn btw), I have decided since my job puts lots of fragile people on my way, I can afford to be choosey in private.
That said, I let people take advantage of me quite a bunch at work. It's hard to explain... I'm perfectly aware, sometimes even before it begins, I see the person for what they are, but helping them still feels right even if technically detrimental to me, so I indulge as long as it doesn't cost me too much, like, when it comes to people, I put myself second because I think it's ok, not because I'm blind or else, I just pet my ego in other areas of life 😋

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posted October 28, 2019 10:05 PM            

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I can tolerate needy people. But there is a limit to my patience. Self-sufficient people are easier to get along with. The cap in me wants boundaries. People who are too needy tend to cross those boundaries.

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posted October 29, 2019 09:52 AM            

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O wow, sounds a lot like me some of that lol
I (Virgo) do love helping, it's a hobby, a calling and also some selfish thing as nothing makes me feel more validated as a person than having helped.
For example I don't go to a party unless I get to help prepare, otherwise I feel like I'm taking advantage or something.
Now, I do attract needy types but I also reject them (I have moon in Capricorn btw), I have decided since my job puts lots of fragile people on my way, I can afford to be choosey in private.
That said, I let people take advantage of me quite a bunch at work. It's hard to explain... I'm perfectly aware, sometimes even before it begins, I see the person for what they are, but helping them still feels right even if technically detrimental to me, so I indulge as long as it doesn't cost me too much, like, when it comes to people, I put myself second because I think it's ok, not because I'm blind or else, I just pet my ego in other areas of life 😋

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I do some of this, too.

I don't help at my own detriment, though. I guess I'm a little more selfish lol. I will help as long as I think it's necessary but when I feel like you're just being lazy or leaving tasks for me to do because you don't even want to try, I find ways to encourage you to do it yourself.

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