posted November 30, 2019 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
AriesLilith, I really wanna see your natal chart!

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Here it is. A train of Aries stuffs in the 8th house.

posted November 30, 2019 02:44 PM            

Don't play games.

posted November 30, 2019 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by doubletaurus:

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Anyways I think a cancer Mars is chasing me - female Aries moon. What's your guy's sun, moon, and Venus? I think there cancer Mars is way too passive aggressive for me and I actually don't like the way he play games in showing he likes me. He's apparently awaiting some kind of sign from me... Yet clearly talking to other girls and it's a huge turn off for me. I'm not an option between girls you're choosing, the real battle is trying to convince me imo (I'm a bit self centered). I too almost fall for it but in the end, I take it as he's not serious either. I also can't really tell if he's actually into me so I don't like those games. I hate it because he'll ask questions of "where would I want to live in the future" or how we would have next time to hangout... And I'm thinking I'm not going to visit you anytime soon (living on opposite coast) as he's talking to another girl who lives in a different city. So best to ignore.

Pisces are much easier to read and they can be assertive.

I actually would like the games of knowing you both like each other and focusing on one another. Not sure if that makes sense... Like you pull each other closer vs being distracted by another person.

I personally love to chase but it's difficult to tell if I like you ... Kinda (aqua Mars). I like being chased but depends on who and the situation. I go after who I want and it's kinda obvious I like you... If you know me well enough.

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The Cancer Mars' guy I'm talking about is a Scorpio sun and Libra venus conjunct Pluto, Aries moon. I guess he is a more than 10 years older than me (I don't know why he hides the actual year he was born to me - edited: I found out myself his birthday years ago and did some natal chart but at this moment I forget the year he was born, so I guess more than 10 years older than me), but he has youthful attitude and has a good career and position. Probably it boosts the confidence. To me, he is pretty much direct the whole time.

I'm not interested in him as he is married, but I do like him just as a good friend, because our conversation feels refreshing and we have same humor. That's why I don't really watch or care if there's a manipulation and passive aggressiveness as I also always keep it light and avoid him/disappear if I see he makes a move to the next step.

buuuutttt

My husband is a Cancer Mars and I can relate to what you are saying as I've experienced it with him. Infidelity and lies are the theme of our relationship before marriage, that's why our relationship is quite a turmoil since the beginning. Now he tries to build up my trust although for me I don't think it will be a 100% anymore, but I do appreciate his effort and move on. He is less passive aggressive now. He is a Gem sun and venus (not conjunct), Cap moon.

@DualGemV2 tells the truth, Cancer mars likes to guard themselves up, even to play games, and worst is manipulation, until they feel really safe with you and it would be less and less. Unlike Scorpio who will continue to do so 'till you die just joking.

posted November 30, 2019 05:27 PM            

The method is to be straight to the point and efficient then. Because they want to be sure about want they are getting.

Anything too complicated, or not direct, is too hard to read and potentially will cause pain/trouble. And waste time and energy.

posted November 30, 2019 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
No games for Aries moon sounds like it means Aries moon wants to protect their (tender and young) heart. Aries being the first sign.

The method is to be straight to the point and efficient then. Because they want to be sure about want they are getting.

Anything too complicated, or not direct, is too hard to read and potentially will cause pain/trouble. And waste time and energy.

Interesting..

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posted November 30, 2019 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
No games for Aries moon sounds like it means Aries moon wants to protect their (tender and young) heart. Aries being the first sign.

The method is to be straight to the point and efficient then. Because they want to be sure about want they are getting.

Anything too complicated, or not direct, is too hard to read and potentially will cause pain/trouble. And waste time and energy.

Interesting..

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it's not about avoidance of pain, if you're willing to be vulnerable pain is an expected possible outcome and i can get past things pretty quick even if they hurt

i just don't see a point in ******** and playing with another person's feelings, like teasel said it's not fun

posted November 30, 2019 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
I’m with teasel and Dumuzi. Plus such games are red flags, the other person may have lots of insecurity, drama and can be high maintenance. Picturing a relationship where you can’t feel calm and stable, that the other person is never sure, I would be tired and drained. Not fun! Where’s room for the other fun types of games??

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exactly this, game playing is a huge red flag

posted November 30, 2019 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
No games for Aries moon sounds like it means Aries moon wants to protect their (tender and young) heart. Aries being the first sign.

The method is to be straight to the point and efficient then. Because they want to be sure about want they are getting.

Anything too complicated, or not direct, is too hard to read and potentially will cause pain/trouble. And waste time and energy.

Interesting..

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For me, no games means "you make easy for us" because I have little patience to wait and figure out (lol) something that is actually easy but people make it complicated/complex and I have short attention as there are plenty of fish out there and there are a lot of activities/actual fun games much more important than dealing with "games". Just being honest. as I am pretty much a simple person too but I do appreciate people who wants to hold on tightly and safe the relationship with a condition they don't play games no more. Aries moon can be forgiving and move on easily from hurt feelings but not forget.

posted December 02, 2019 12:17 AM            

or, no games whatsoever if you're REALLY into them

posted December 06, 2019 06:39 AM            

one that I spoke to definitely seems like this kind of loose cannon

posted December 06, 2019 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by anska5:
My ex-boyfriend was sun, moon and venus in aries. Although he later on in the relationship told me that he fell for me and wanted to be with me the moment he met me....he did not chase AT ALL. Same thing with the woman before me and the one he was with after me...no chasing whatsoever. Someone in an earlier post said that the mars sign is the decisive factor and I couldnt agree more. My ex's mars was in aquarius and while he did not chase me in any classic ways that would have been noticeable as 'chasing' to me, he did pursue a friendship with me and in this very aquarian way managed to get closer to me.

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i prefer being friends first too, mars is in cap though

posted December 06, 2019 10:22 PM            

But it's always hard to go through all the defining points in a thread isn't it?

posted December 06, 2019 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i prefer being friends first too, mars is in cap though

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posted December 07, 2019 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I have Cancer Mars and Aries Moon...

I don't play games but I'd already be in a position were if things work out great, if not who cares there's no loss.

Ironically I've become more blunt with my Aries moon then my Cancer mars.

I think a Cancer mars can learn to be less guarded over time and play less games if at least one harsh lesson happens.

They like to guard themselves, play games and manipulate the situation in there own defense but if everything suddenly spirals out of control then they'll learn there lesson.

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I believe this to be very true. He has an aries Mercury and he's ridiculously argumentative for the sake of it and I know him and I can be horrible if we're both drinking. I can imagine something happening like that so I want to avoid that as much as possible.

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I'd be turned off too that he's talking to another women.

If he's trying to make you jealous by talking to other women and expecting a sign from you he's clearly not a confident person.

If it doesn't work out with you that's fine..it just didn't work out. no lose plenty of fish in the sea

Every car salesmen doesn't expect every person that walks in the door to buy a car from them.

But they know at least 1 out of 10 people that walks into the dealership is a sucker and will eventually buy a car from them.

Cancer mars expects every girl they ask to be there girl and they'll either manipulate or play games or get defensive to ensure that it happens.

I think if they eventually learn that you actually do get something if someone rejects you they might be more direct with things and not be afraid to get hurt so easily.

Said from a Cancer mars...

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Ooooo this is great insight! It's nice to hear other perspectives on their behavior - though I get there are many other factors and stuff but I can see this for this guy.

I believe he isn't confident lol yet he's extremely alpha like in a more subtle ish way. Like what you said about "asking every girl and expecting them to be his" is exactly his mentality. He even said how he takes it personal if he invites someone, he expects them to be there otherwise he's offended. Word for word.

I think someone else in this thread mentioned how basically they wouldn't take any signs seriously. Like I don't take him seriously in terms of looking him or dating because of this kind of "manipulation" or whatever meaning I'm not actually giving him what he wants but it's interesting to see this happen. I feel emotionally detached yet connected. I love aqua Mars and like someone else mention I really like that appeal of friends first.

But this cancer Mars isn't mature enough imo and he is not in the state of mind to accept rejection as a learning experience and instead he complains about it. Or how he went off on a rant about why it's okay if he doesn't say yes to an invitation because he knows he won't enjoy it and everyone will have a bad time so he's saving everyone and himself that bad experience .. and then I asked him if he liked a certain sport. He snorted, no I don't like it. I looked at him and I asked why did you go to the game then? He just shrugged it off and said nothing more. So troublesome.

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
The Cancer Mars' guy I'm talking about is a Scorpio sun and Libra venus conjunct Pluto, Aries moon. I guess he is a more than 10 years older than me (I don't know why he hides the actual year he was born to me - edited: I found out myself his birthday years ago and did some natal chart but at this moment I forget the year he was born, so I guess more than 10 years older than me), but he has youthful attitude and has a good career and position. Probably it boosts the confidence. To me, he is pretty much direct the whole time.

I'm not interested in him as he is married, but I do like him just as a good friend, because our conversation feels refreshing and we have same humor. That's why I don't really watch or care if there's a manipulation and passive aggressiveness as I also always keep it light and avoid him/disappear if I see he makes a move to the next step.

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Im leaning more that way with this guy, where he's a friend anyways so I'm not trying to look into not caring so much. But I can't help but notice and observe. I'm seeing him doing this with several girls so I'm just taking a back seat and my interest is waning. I like what you do and keep it light and avoid if it's anything more.

Ooo that's nice he's direct! Though surprising with that Scorpio sun but when they know they know?!

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buuuutttt

My husband is a Cancer Mars and I can relate to what you are saying as I've experienced it with him. Infidelity and lies are the theme of our relationship before marriage, that's why our relationship is quite a turmoil since the beginning. Now he tries to build up my trust although for me I don't think it will be a 100% anymore, but I do appreciate his effort and move on. He is less passive aggressive now. He is a Gem sun and venus (not conjunct), Cap moon.

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I can understand that! That's great he's building up the trust but I think it being not 100% keeps you on your toes... But yes the effort and growing from it means a lot! So I'm glad your husband... Is your husband lol the cap moon knows what is good for him lolol

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@DualGemV2 tells the truth, Cancer mars likes to guard themselves up, even to play games, and worst is manipulation, until they feel really safe with you and it would be less and less. Unlike Scorpio who will continue to do so 'till you die just joking.

I think there are so many reasons why he did what he did, some are the self-esteem issues and insecurity, also ex problems. Cancer mars isn't the most confident mars and is afraid of rejection, etc. Actually he is a softy and care too much, but for the fall/debilitated placement, the bad OFTEN takes the best out of it.

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Cancer in Mars... Exactly! There are a lotttt of self esteem issues and insecurities. Defense mechanisms. That rejection concept really goes over my head. I guess I don't understand the degree of a rejection to a cancer Mars.

posted December 07, 2019 10:22 PM            

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Originally posted by doubletaurus:

I can understand that! That's great he's building up the trust but I think it being not 100% keeps you on your toes... But yes the effort and growing from it means a lot! So I'm glad your husband... Is your husband lol the cap moon knows what is good for him lolol

Cancer in Mars... Exactly! There are a lotttt of self esteem issues and insecurities. Defense mechanisms. That rejection concept really goes over my head. I guess I don't understand the degree of a rejection to a cancer Mars.

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lol

Yeah, I gave a lot of chances to him before for years, a lot of tears, anger, hurts, until I said to myself "enough!" I make him known that I don't trust him whatsoever anymore (I think it's a 0.0001% trust level lol) but at the same time giving him a 100% free will to do what he wants to do, even if he wants to cheat again. I just stop caring completely. I focus more to nurture my soul health, my daughter, and as a mother and a wife duty. It does gives some changes in him, even to his passive aggressiveness, but it won't change anything to my trust level, it's gone forever.