posted January 19, 2020 06:12 PM            

I agree, meaning Pluto more so as a "sub-note" just like all the other dwarf planets that are distant asteroids.

posted January 19, 2020 06:18 PM            

I agree and in absolutely no way should Pluto be connected to the direct mapping of the endocrine system since it's a dwarf planet like Ceres is.

If we include Pluto, one must include Ceres and all the other dwarfs classified as asteroids.

posted January 19, 2020 06:31 PM            

Esoterically, that's very possible.

As long as we are in the flesh (body) a silver chord is attached to our soul so it's always connected to our DNA until we are deceased.

Outside of the flesh (deceased), a chart is obsolete.

posted January 19, 2020 06:46 PM            

I agree that students shouldn't focus on Pluto, since it's a dwarf planet classified the same as Eris and Ceres, etc, which are asteroids.

posted January 19, 2020 06:54 PM            

I've been in the astrology scene for awhile, and been on a number of forums, and the degree of distraction with and over idealization of every shiny, newer symbol or concept that comes along is rampant, but a real and holistically balanced solid base of basic astrological understanding and application tends to be sorely lacking.

It's like the symbol of Gemini vs Capricorn. Sure, one can learn a little about everything, but it often comes at the detriment of actually mastering a particular craft which takes time, focus, dedication; in short discipline, and depth of focus."

Thank-you for your comments.

What orb do you use for Pluto since it's not a planet and can be 4.67 billion miles from Earth?

posted January 19, 2020 07:06 PM            

The planets in the solar system travel in elliptical orbits rather than perfect circles, and so the distances between them are constantly changing. At its most distant, when the two bodies are on the opposite sides of the sun from one another, Pluto lies 4.67 billion miles (7.5 billion kilometers) from Earth. At their closest, the two are only 2.66 billion miles (4.28 billion km) apart.
http://www.space.com/18566-pluto-distance.html

Pluto is between 4.67 and 2.66 billion miles from Earth or about a 57% variance in distance from shortest to longest.

Orbs of a dwarf planet like Ceres, having an average of 257 million miles away from Earth, could be larger than for Pluto.

posted January 19, 2020 07:15 PM            

I agree it's funny. That's why I placed the word "Funny" as the first word in the title.

It's funny how some value Pluto, use normal planetary orbs, even possibly call them self Plutonian, but not treat other asteroids similarly in the same class.

posted January 19, 2020 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ When will you finish interpreting the chart if you put all the asteroids?

I see why the buck stopped ticking with Saturn in the vedic system now.

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If a person's not computerized, then I'd suggest looking over some names and a few stories and see which names resonate.

Plug a few in to see where they land.

If they're on something major, study it more or else go to the next one.

After all, who could live without the asteroid Pluto?

I'm a C/C++ computer programmer. I downloaded the asteroid list so I intend to do it all in code.

Right now I'm writing the aspect tables.

The orbs should be based upon a combination of distance (apogee and perigee) and mass.

posted January 19, 2020 10:11 PM            

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by Secret Geek
I'm a C/C++ computer programmer. I downloaded the asteroid list so I intend to do it all in code.
Right now I'm writing the aspect tables.
The orbs should be based upon a combination of distance (apogee and perigee) and mass.
Not what is taught by scholars.

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Wow. Interesting project, Secret Geek.
Hope you publish your results.

Let us know how you do.

uhmm.
By the way...
Without the SUN we'd all die in minutes?
Unless Jupiter were to suddenly revive.
They once thought we were a binary Sun system.

Who knows... maybe Niburu? ..
(just kidding)

posted January 19, 2020 10:47 PM            

No doubt Mirage. Thank-you for your other comments.

It's tough to overrate the Sun even though it's not a planet.

It's a star, much more important than planets.

A dwarf planet, or asteroid, is much less important than planets are.

If the Sun deserves a maximum orb, then Ceres, Pluto, and many other asteroids, should be around 1/6 to 1/12 the value (or less than) placed on the Sun.

So for Pluto to have a maximum orb of 8, the Sun could have an orb of about 96.

posted January 19, 2020 11:48 PM            

Pluto never was called as Asteroid by official science! It’s the Biggest dwarf planet so it does stand out! And discussion about whether it’s an actual planet is not closed yet by science.

posted January 20, 2020 12:09 AM            

The orbs should be based upon a combination of distance (apogee and perigee) and mass.

Not what is taught by scholars.”

This makes sense for me and might be very useful. But you cannot just reinvent science what existed long time before you based on math calculations. I guess you can mess with math and calculating part of it, but not with mythology/ psychology influence.
If you take power from Pluto, you need to give us something in exchange. What’s gonna be responsible for all dark power and obsessions? You cannot discard all these dark stuff in people by discarding Pluto power. No any other planet fits to play that role.
All these planets hold not just number/ size values, but psychology traits values in Astrology.

posted January 20, 2020 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
"Without the SUN we'd all die in minutes?"
If we dig in Astronomy here, we can die without most of our solar planets. They hold balance disturbing of which can kill us. Most of these planets changing normal orbits can completely change solar system and Earth position in it. If you watch one of Nova/NASA educational shows, for example, Jupiter protects us from a lot of space danger or might kill our planet.
In fact, any small asteroid can kill us in second. Anyway, It’s not the point there.
You’re forgetting again and again, Astrology and Astronomy- a different science!
Astrology is possibly much more related to psychology/ mythology then Astronomy.
And if you striving to be more precisely and scientifically correct, Dwarf planets and Asteroids are not the same.

Pluto never was called as Asteroid by official science! It’s the Biggest dwarf planet so it does stand out! And discussion about whether it’s an actual planet is not closed yet by science.

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The reason Pluto lost planetary status is because of Eris, which is only good for about a 1-2 degree orb.

While called a dwarf like Eris now, it's listed in the same minor planet catalog with about 800,000 others, as all the asteroids are, similar to the way Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta were listed in the planet catalog years ago.

It will get demoted again and again.

There's even a new term for it.

It's called getting Plutoed.

posted January 20, 2020 07:25 AM            

My guess is we are getting ready to discover another planet.

These objects are so far out and we didn't have the ability to monitor or catch movement before.

posted January 20, 2020 07:33 AM            

It should be hidden, similar to the other asteroids.

Check all the posts out about Pluto from members here.

They think the most of the transforming influence is because of Pluto and it's not.

Some of the influence is the result of Pluto but not most of it.

The influence is there but it's not solely from Pluto.

posted January 20, 2020 08:08 AM            

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets

Quoting again so not to be missed:

"...and more than a trillion minor planets in the Kuiper belt of which hundreds are likely dwarf planets..."

Pluto is only one.

posted January 20, 2020 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:

My guess is we are getting ready to discover another planet.

These objects are so far out and we didn't have the ability to monitor or catch movement before.

We are getting better at it.

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“The reason Pluto lost planetary status is because of Eris, which is only good for about a 1-2 degree orb.
While called a dwarf like Eris now, it's listed in the same minor planet catalog with about 800,000 others, as all the asteroids are, similar to the way Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta were listed in the planet catalog years ago.

It will get demoted again and again.”
It’s the biggest dwarf planet. In the future, a lot of these the planets might not exist at all. Let’s not make assumptions based on something what might not happen. It’s not the point.
You might argue what place Pluto takes in astronomy as long as you wanna. But in astrology, it’s a house ruler, Scorpio ruler, chart ruler. It does hold special place. No any asteroids are ruling the astrology signs.
You’re so concentrated on small details so you’re missing the whole picture. You need to hide not just a planet, but a house, re-do the whole astrology house system for your theory.

So next would be a Scorpio is not an actual legit sign because it’s ruled by asteroid? I’d love to see how you try to put that theory out and all these Scorpio- proud people will eat you alive😀

posted January 20, 2020 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I see physics and metaphysics as two very different things that run by very different rules, and that's why I see astronomy and astrology as two very different things in which things like distance and size (certainly gravity) are irrelevant. Any relation between the two is incidental in my book, so much so that astrological teachings have no place in an astronomy class, IMO. (Of course one can be equally interested in them both.)

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They are different right now.

They used to be one discipline (astronomy and astrology).

They will again.

The gateway between the physical and spiritual is DNA.

Our solar system objects affect our DNA.

It's real and physical.

The effects aren't all physical though.

The reason the disciplines will merge, is mostly because chart information will become computerized along with knowledge about the mapping of our DNA.

We'll be able to determine the correlations which are hidden now (occult).

Not all the correlations, such as the invisible things like a conscience, a thought, or a will.

Spiritual things will always be in the occult but the discipline will be one again.

posted January 20, 2020 12:30 PM            

There's no need to find a replacement.

The influence existed before the discovery of Pluto.

It'll exist after Pluto is Plutoed, again.

posted January 20, 2020 12:37 PM            

I'll add, usually erroneously.

It's mostly imaginary.

Not real, as the result of Pluto.

posted January 20, 2020 12:50 PM            

Or could it be you are.

Could it be that you depend upon Pluto to rationalize specific things?

What if you were alive before Pluto was discovered?

All of the sudden a group of astrologers decided it was important, erroneously, because a group of astronomers thought Pluto was the 9th planet.

It wasn't.

It's a dwarf deserving of an orb of about one along with hundreds of others that are similar in class.

posted January 20, 2020 12:58 PM            

Scorpio was never ruled by Pluto and it never will be.