posted February 08, 2020 06:06 PM            

exact sun sq uranus, moon sq uranus: rebel, outcast, proclivity/attraction towards 'unusual'/'outside the norm' behaviors

mars [hard aspect] neptune: second-most classic "drugs" signature. confusion around "action", i.e. imagine how druggies seem to lose all 'morals' during fiends etc.

uranus hard aspect moon/sun inclines toward bipolarness(going from 0-100 in a fraction of a second flat), combined with marshardneptune can intensify the actingwithouthinking/being unawareofwhatoneisdoing/doingwhatever

posted February 09, 2020 02:00 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
We should start a sick human being thread and compare their charts, or perhaps a pedo thread specifically and compare their charts, is easier for me to read visually charts from astrobank or astro.com though....

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Bear in mind that this forum can be accessed by children ... and an astrological indicator referred to here could become a source of bullying for any child that happens to have it in his/her natal chart.

posted February 09, 2020 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Bear in mind that this forum can be accessed by children ... and an astrological indicator referred to here could become a source of bullying for any child that happens to have it in his/her natal chart.

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posted February 09, 2020 03:36 AM            

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
Try to google 'meth head crimes' if you want to look in to the darkest depths of humanity.

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posted February 09, 2020 04:22 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Anything can lead to bullying, I am not going to stop researching astrological patterns bc it could lead to bullying. The person who decides to bully others is responsible for bullying others, not me.

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Did someone suggest that the astrological pattern should not be researched? If so, it was not me.

My comment was based on a personal view/belief that providing tools/astrological indicators that can be used by others to do harm does not accord with the first rule of astrology (i.e.. to do no harm). ... Hence, astrologers/students should "bear in mind" that a public forum (accessed by children) might not be the place to undertake this kind of astrological research.

posted February 09, 2020 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Anything can lead to bullying, I am not going to stop researching astrological patterns bc it could lead to bullying. The person who decides to bully others is responsible for bullying others, not me.

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posted February 09, 2020 09:52 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Have read some. Do you think "meth made him do it" ie altered his personality or brought his TRUE personality out in the open?? I mean surely, there are drug addicts that wouldn't even think about doing what he did!?

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Ime, a fair percentage of people that are drug and/or alcohol addicts, often get strongly influenced (nonphysically/psychically) by individuals and/or groups much darker than themselves. Particularly when under the influence.

If they lack a core of strong ethics, empathy for others, strong conscience, then they start getting resonated more and more to that severe lack of Light side, and the depravity gets worse and worse.

To make matters more difficult, he has a somewhat psychically sensitive chart, which means that the influencing can spill over into periods when he's not under the influence. Once those kind of energetic connections are made, they can be hard to break unless outside, strong help is requested. As most are and remain unconscious to such influencing to begin with, few ever ask for help.

posted February 09, 2020 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Did someone suggest that the astrological pattern should not be researched? If so, it was not me.

My comment was based on a [b]personal view/belief that providing tools/astrological indicators that can be used by others to do harm does not accord with the first rule of astrology (i.e.. to do no harm). ... Hence, astrologers/students should "bear in mind" that a public forum (accessed by children) might not be the place to undertake this kind of astrological research.

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posted February 09, 2020 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
If the aspect is responsible, how would the person be?

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posted February 09, 2020 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You are not making any sense....this thread could be about people who cheat and I could have said the same thing "lets post charts of people who cheat and see if we find any astrological patterns they have in common" and then you would pop in and say that shouldn't be done here because kids access this forum and such information could be used for bullying. It is extremely odd your input on this thread.

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What does not make sense is to equate cheating with the kind of activities that are relevant to this thread topic.

posted February 09, 2020 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by ULT12:

mars [hard aspect] neptune: second-most classic "drugs" signature. confusion around "action", i.e. imagine how druggies seem to lose all 'morals' during fiends etc.
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posted February 09, 2020 01:11 PM            

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Of course I am making sense, hypatia. ... You just disagree with my point (which is ok), but are perhaps beginning to see that it may be valid.

What does not make sense is to equate cheating with the kind of activities that are relevant to this thread topic.

For me, "I provided the information used by the bully to abuse the child that subsequently committed suicide, but the bully did not have to use it" is the same as (say) a drug-pusher saying "I provided the drugs on which your child over-dosed, but he/she did not have to use them." ...Both statements are true, but neither would be an ethically acceptable defence (from the perspective of the parent that has lost his/her child).

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Okay I have read numerous times that Leo's tend to be a bit self-focused and narcissistic. A child can read this and start bullying everyone that has Leo sun calling them "narcissistic" and "full of themselves." Doing this would not be my fault even if I said that Leos tend to be narcissistic here in lindaland bc the person is using this information to harm others and they are responsible for their actions and how they use information they read anywhere and parents are responsible for teaching their kids right from wrong and monitoring what their kids read etc, I am a firm believer of owning your actions and taking responsibility for your actions. A lot of information can be used to harm others if someone chooses to go that route, this does not mean discussions or information should be censored. I definitely DO NOT agree with you on this matter. Also sadly bullying is something that happens and people need to learn the skills to stand up for themselves, defend themselves and cope with this when it happens. Last, I was bullied and I never killed myself, taking your life is the responsibility of the person who takes their life, you always have a choice.

posted February 09, 2020 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Actually it totally blows my mind Graham that you would bring up your concern for kids been bullied specifically on this thread out of all the threads out there because a child will never ever be bullied for been a PEDOPHILE bc children are not pedophiles, adults are.

I am not returning to this thread, that is the last thing I am saying about this. This whole conversation is very weird.

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posted February 09, 2020 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You are not making any sense....this thread could be about people who cheat and I could have said the same thing "lets post charts of people who cheat and see if we find any astrological patterns they have in common" and then you would pop in and say that shouldn't be done here because kids access this forum and such information could be used for bullying. It is extremely odd your input on this thread.

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Anyone who is interested in astrology have researched this topic ages ago. Atleast if they have any gemini and Pluto in their charts.
And because of that i can promise you this:

What ever aspects or placements you will find to tie together the charts of pedophiles, it will probably be a random asteroid, i can show you million of actual natal charts of people with the same placements that never molestef or raped a child.

You may come up with the equivialent of the cheater placement number one, Venus in Gemini(?), but the retards (Graham is worried about the kids, i am more worried about the adults with a intelligence equal to a kid) that will read about this "pedophile-placement" will without a doubt start pointing fingers and eventualy there will be a mob of retards some where who will use it as an excuse to kill someone.

posted February 09, 2020 10:09 PM            

In my experience and observation, many get on hard drugs like meth to escape pain, usually that of abusive childhoods or some deep trauma, and it can often be sexual. I would think such people would be prone to seeking to manifest those experiences again from one end or the other, especially on especially toxic drugs like that.

I'll point out that I'm not saying all do before the defensive "well I was abused and don't abuse" (so was I) clogs up this thread.

But many do learn unhealthy patterns from it, and seek to repeat it in one form or another. Adding meth to it would seem to make it a lot worse. (LSD or shrooms on the other hand might, if lucky, help them out of it, not that I'd recommend it, at least not without someone to help them through it.)

But my past and present life puts me around those from abusive and traumatic backgrounds so of course that's what I would observe. But again, what meth is made of makes me think no one with healthy self-preservation instincts would do it just to get a thrill, though I have heard of people using it work 2 jobs and be a mother, or get through medical school while also working to support themselves and interning, and so on, which is pure desperation, but I never heard of one of them (that is for pragmatic if ill-advised reasons rather than escaping pain) going off the deep end (one actually got her medical degree and as far as I know--which may not be correct--she's clean now). Because of that I think it's more likely to release one's inner demons than put them there (though it probably does exacerbate it).

As for astrological markers...funny thing, I read a bunch of astrology books that weren't focused on wealth or romance and such deviant or criminal behavior of that bizarre nature never came up, so I can't speak on the theory of that. I will say that I don't automatically suspect all those born at the same time in the same hospital of the same behavior (though I'm now curious what their lives were indeed like).