posted March 03, 2020 12:03 AM            

Time and time and time and time again I've noticed the TROPICAL Degree ASC fitting 95%+, while Sidereal doesn't at all. So that is what I'm curious to see - Is It Just In My Head, Or Do Others Agree? What's odd about all of this is SIDEREAL Moon/Sun fit but TROPICAL ASC fits, so it's not as though I can simply disregard one zodiac entirely (I'm only beginning to test Moon/Sun, but as said I've seen the Tropical Degree ASC Nakshatra be so true so many times - which is really my interest here).

I've created 3 basic polls - ASC, Moon, Sun. If you don't have a BC/BR Birth Time, you can still vote in the latter two so long as neither move Nakshatras.
ASC - http://linkto.run/p/BUNP6R8Y
MOON - http://linkto.run/p/SQGDV1J8
SUN - http://linkto.run/p/727KXSWS

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ending notes: 1) there are more Points than these 3 of course, but these are "the big 3" and should be more determinable whether something fits; 2) totally disregard any rectified charts/people you see on the BP site, I've viewed many and the "rectifications" have NEVER been -anywhere- close to actual BC/BR times which for some I imagine were made/rectified before BC/BR Times were known/revealed; 3) there will be super slight differences in Degrees between astro.com and Jagannatha Hora due to each using slightly different calculation methods, this likely won't cause changes in Nakshatras but if it does read both and decide which fits more

posted March 13, 2020 03:48 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sorry I cannot contribute much to this thread

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posted March 18, 2020 08:52 PM            

It set me off on a study jag the other day.
I wanted to contribute, but am STILL scouring through material.

No promises that I will finish SOON, but, I've been looking through these.

Very confusing, actually.
Example is some charts say my Mercury and South Node are in Mrig, and others say Ardra.
Can't see where the line is drawn on that. I must by cuspy!

Same with my Jupiter Cancer.
Some say pushya, and an other says the nakshatra before.

I like some of the materials behind the nakshatras. VERY interesting to absorb and steep in.

posted March 19, 2020 01:32 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Hey ULT!! Thanks for the thread.

It set me off on a study jag the other day.
I wanted to contribute, but am STILL scouring through material.

No promises that I will finish SOON, but, I've been looking through these.

Very confusing, actually.
Example is some charts say my Mercury and South Node are in Mrig, and others say Ardra.
Can't see where the line is drawn on that. I must by cuspy!

Same with my Jupiter Cancer.
Some say pushya, and an other says the nakshatra before.

I like some of the materials behind the nakshatras. VERY interesting to absorb and steep in.

Grok!

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They might be using different ayanmasas.

posted March 31, 2020 01:22 PM            

essentially what i've noticed is a vedic astrologer and a western one can basically get the same person from both charts because ultimately both systems work

it's not really much different from divination where the golden dawn/crowley system works for tarot but so does the more common rider waite, playing cards, iching, runes etc and so on

essentially you ask the same questiom you're going to get the same answer regardless of system and astrology is no diffetent

boils down to personal preference

that all being said revati is more fitting than bharani for me as far as moon nakshatra goes

i'm unfamiliar with my rising nakshatra if we're going by tropical degrees, but chitra (my lagna ascendant nakshatra in vedic) does work so does magha for my sun

i know enough about bharani to say it doesn't work though and moon is the most important nakshatra

posted March 31, 2020 02:23 PM            

Thing is?
I never had the Benefit of a Mentor and a person who Loved and Cared for me, overseeing the things and matters of my Lifetime.

Those things should have been already-installed INTO my life, to work FOR itself, starting with FROM upbringing.

Reading the meanings from another website (than the one you provided-- which seemed not as organized and full as it could have been).

So.. ALL the Promises from my charts had been 'touched'... but... not developed, as I lived life in a kind of isolation.

Yes, like some meanings had said, others had blocked me BECAUSE of jealousy they had. What makes me want to question now, is, the person on the other end of the 'block-action' who did not SEE and reach PAST the ones jealous, and be alpha enough to draw me PAST all those.

I feel like a Gift, that others were afraid to unwrap, for whatever political reasons were going on, during periods of my life.

No one to 'defend' for me, and preserve the giftings inside for their proper development and use.

So again.

This all REINFORCED the IMPORTANCE that young people get a PROFESSIONAL Reading from a Certified Grounded and PROVEN traditional astrologer.

There is GREAT GAIN to be had.

Even as the World is changing so much right now, a TRADITIONAL Proper Reading can STILL give Benefits by extrapolation and application TO the New Future.

EVERYONE in the 20s should have a reading, AND a GOOD MENTOR by their side.

If only I HAD I HAD A MENTOR!!!!!! o. m. g.

I know that there are 'experimental' types of astrology readings...?

I say SPEND your Valuable Money ON a SEASONED "Traditional" Accredited Astrologer FIRST. THIS is your Baseline.

Play loosely with the experimental, in addition to the Seasoned and Accredited PROS.

So ULT,
Thanks for this thread.
It was Bittersweet for me.

Without my knowing it, I had touched soo many of the elements of my chart.

HAD I a Mentor, I could have DONE so much MORE.

posted March 31, 2020 06:22 PM            

IIRC, your Tropical ASC Nakshatra is Swati - aka "the great equitable/harmony/harmonic deal-maker(bargainer, compromiser, etc)" - in the past, you've repeated that it's just more beneficial for not just you but as a whole/for everyone if you are lenient/compromisial(actual wordage you've used i can't remember, I'm so sorry)...... which is Swati to a T!t!! That utter-basic/barebones sorta/instantaneous level of operation is how I see the ASC working.

posted March 31, 2020 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by ULT12:
@Dumuzi

IIRC, your Tropical ASC Nakshatra is Swati - aka "the great equitable/harmony/harmonic deal-maker(bargainer, compromiser, etc)" - in the past, you've repeated that it's just more beneficial for not just you but as a whole/for everyone if you are lenient/compromisial(actual wordage you've used i can't remember, I'm so sorry)...... which is Swati to a [b]T!t!! That utter-basic/barebones sorta/instantaneous level of operation is how I see the ASC working.

Mind posting your birth info so I can make various Charts for myself for you?[/B]

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yeah, that definitely sounds like something i've said i don't remember it, but that is how i feel about stuff

i also have this thing where i feel guilty having things my way if i know it isn't what the other person/people wanted so it makes it hard to enjoy it anyway

even if it's something that isn't a big deal it just makes me feel like i'm making things difficult

posted March 31, 2020 06:44 PM            

I don't pay much attention to Vedic, because it seemed so negative when I tried in the past. I remember two different sidereal charts, when I tried before. One gave me a Pisces Sun with Taurus Sun/Moon, the second one gave me a 0*Aries Sun. Ascendant must have been in Libra. Lahiri was the chart that gave me 0*Aries.

posted March 31, 2020 07:38 PM            

The Chart you posted is the Traditional Sidereal Chart, albeit with Placidus houses. That makes your Traditional Sidereal(Lahiri) Nakshatras easy to tell, so I'll give you those and you can read from whatever Vedic source (I rec the bp site, but you might like another site or source be it book or a Pro or whatever).

I was going to give you your Tropical Nakshatras too but mentally I'm sorta scattered atm so can't calculate in my head precisely what they are, and don't wanna give you the wrong one(s). But if you just want to be told which Nakshatras instead of figuring em out using the bp site, just state full degree of Tropical sun/moon/asc and I'll tell you.

posted March 31, 2020 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by ULT12:
@teasel:

The Chart you posted is the Traditional Sidereal Chart, albeit with Placidus houses. That makes your Traditional Sidereal(Lahiri) Nakshatras easy to tell, so I'll give you those and you can read from whatever Vedic source (I rec the bp site, but you might like another site or source be it book or a Pro or whatever).

I was going to give you your Tropical Nakshatras too but mentally I'm sorta scattered atm so can't calculate in my head precisely what they are, and don't wanna give you the wrong one(s). But if you just want to be told which Nakshatras instead of figuring em out using the bp site, just state full degree of Tropical sun/moon/asc and I'll tell you.

[b]Traditional Sidereal, s/m/asc: azvini/krittika/swati[/B]

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