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Topic: Yeshua's ("Jesus") birth date?
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 22, 2020 11:49 PM
Don't know how true it is or not, but Edgar Cayce's guidance said that Yeshua was born on the date that would now correspond to our January 6th date. Still a Capricorn Sun, but not on December 25th.The Cayce work is a bit confusing about this whole date of Yeshua's birth because the very first mention of his birth date gave March 19th I believe, but the deeper context is very important. This date was given in a Life reading for a woman, whose Soul, had been incarnated during Yeshua's time as a Hebrew/Jewish woman and was given while talking about that past life. The date was given was from her then perspective. The Hebrews, (and maybe Romans then?), had different calendars and reckoning of time then we do now and/or has shifted some since then. But then someone later on, in a non Life reading, asked what Yeshua's birth date would be from our perspective and this is when the January 6th date was given and specifically in the context of "would now be represented by..." Then in another reading, it was mentioned that Christmas wasn't too far off from his actual birth date, but was off. As to why Yeshua was born under Capricorn Sun? During his time, the Sidereal and Tropical Zodiacs were quite aligned. In Capricornus (the Stellar Constellation), there are a couple or few Stars of note that relate to the theme of sacrifice, to the theme of sacrifice of the individual for the collective. And it is is the sign of the goat in general, which some cultures (for a very long time) for some reason have connected the theme of sacrifice of goats to. Don't know why people like to sacrifice goats especially, but it's been a theme and a thing for a long time. And very much so in the Hebrew/Jewish culture then and before then. Is it any surprise then, that another Light Bearer and liberator, Martin Luther King Jr was born under Capricorn, who also had foreknowledge of his death at the hands of others, and then was murdered for his service/good works? Another individual who came and sacrificed self for the collective. And then, like Yeshua, also killed when Sun was in Aries? The song by U2, "Pride: In the Name of Love" is about MLK. And note, those born under Capricorn, are usually first conceived in the Aries season if there is the full, normal gestation period of 9 months. Interesting birth-life-death connection no? I don't know the year. I suspect it's 5 B.C. on the astro.com ephemeris but am not sure. I think Cayce did mention something about year 4, but wasn't exact about it. The year given in the reading for the woman who had a Hebrew/Jewish lifetime then, doesn't seem correct as far as I can tell. Cayce had to rely on stenographer to write down everything, and besides the very occasional gaffes that he/his source made, sometimes the stenographer made gaffes as well (and he didn't always have the same stenographer--some were better than others in recording). IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 23, 2020 02:12 AM
quote: And it is is the sign of the goat in general, which some cultures (for a very long time) for some reason have connected the theme of sacrifice of goats to. Don't know why people like to sacrifice goats especially, but it's been a theme and a thing for a long time. And very much so in the Hebrew/Jewish culture then and before then.
Did some thinking and intuiting about this. Actually it makes sense. In many Middle Eastern, Mediterranean, North African, etc cultures and tribes, goats were a very valuable animal that really contributed to human survival and health. Goats are very hardy creatures that can survive in relatively harsh, arid, lacking in resources, etc type conditions. Their milk is tasty, nutritious, and easy to digest even in the non cultured form--closer to human mother's milk than many cow breeds (though more ancient cow breeds also lack the A1 casein mutation which makes most of western, modern cow breeds' milk very hard to digest, inflammatory, etc unless it is first cultured). In short, a very highly valued and necessary animal to a lot of ancient peoples, tribes, etc. Well, if you're trying to please or placate the gods or the God with a sacrifice, you don't give the deity(s) worthless crap--you give them something of high value, of importance. Goat fits the bill pretty well. Then interesting to further note the connections between Caps/goats and Aries/Ram as we noted in the parallel conception/life/death cycle between Yeshua and Martin Luther King Jr, as Aries/ram is the other most important animal to a lot of these peoples. But the difference is that Sheep are grazers and Goats are browsers. Sheep tend to do better in more lush environments whereas goats are better adapted to more austere and harsher environments. Goats can pretty much, and will pretty much, eat almost anything and still somehow pull nutrition and sustenance from same while maintaining health and not being easily poisoned. The saying, "I've got a stomach like a goat" is a saying for a reason. Sheep milk was used as well, but often they were more propagated for their wool than primarily their milk. The Hebrews/Jews of the time in particular, wore a lot of sheeps wool, and if they had money and as we say today, "connections", then also flax linen. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 14138 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted November 23, 2020 11:10 AM
We have had several threads in the past discussing this topic.Here are 13 versions of possible chart. - http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jesus_of_Nazareth There's a video I haven't been able to locate yet. The astrologer wore a funny red hat with a long feather sticking out of it {looked medieval}. I think he dropped out of the internet content-creation, to attend to his studies getting a graduate school degree. . . He gave the most compelling chart I've ever seen. Had configuration of Star of David? (I think). . . I'm blocked from accessing my files at Astrodienst right now. I recreated the chart that this astrologer suggested. It's stored there. . . When I'm able to access my files, I'll leave the data-- although, I think I had already left it in a prior thread. Right now, in this environment, I'm having a hard time concentrating on reading and thinking... ~oy!!! and arrgh. AND... for other folks--- Jesus was NOT born on "Christmas Day". His Birth is traditionally Celebrated on that day. I'll come back later to read, Galactic.
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 493 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted November 23, 2020 11:20 AM
The figure Jesus is nothing more than a reptilian/demon. Ask linguists about the name Jesus and they will agree is sounds rubbish. Jews think the new testament is a fraud. I agree as Jesus is a homosexual and puts unconscious homosexuality into the atmosphere. Some say Jesus was created by the Romans to control people. Other say he is satan. I say who cares he is done either way. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 23, 2020 12:43 PM
AthenaGoddess, you couldn't be further from the truth. Edgar Cayce's work is literally the most verified psychic work in existence so far, and his source constantly affirmed that Yeshua lived, that the gospels are mostly correct in the main, that he allowed himself to brutally murdered for his teaching of Love and righteousness, and then came back to his dead body and then converted the matter of same into a pure Light form and now is in a glorified, immortal form in the earth. Then we ALSO have the Shroud of Turin which is one of the most investigated and anomalous historical artifacts in the world. No one can adequately explain how the image was created. Numerous attempts at replicating similar effects have failed miserably. It is the only 2D image that has 3D imaging properties when run through a VP-8 image analyzer. It is a photographic negative image. Just imagine the difficulty in trying to create such an image before photography, before computers, etc, IF it was an artist forgery. There has been found no pigments nor dyes to make up the image itself. The discoloring of the mostly Flax Linen fibers (see later) is so thin as to be about 1/5th of a thousandth of an inch The late 80's carbon dating of the Shroud to the Medieval times has since been debunked, ironically by one of its biggest scientific supporters, Ray Rogers working with also an amateur investigative team. It is historically documented that the Shroud has been through at least one major fire, and there is clear evidence that it has repairs done to the areas that were likely damaged in that fire. There is clear photographic evidence of cotton expertly rewoven in with the flax linen. Ray Rogers took multiple fiber samples of the Shroud's mostly Flax Line fiber content and tested all these for levels of vanillin, a chemical which degrades in a fairly uniform, structured, and timely way, and these samples contained low percentages of vanillin which indicates that these most certainly can be 2000 years old at the least. Researchers at The Hebrew University has said that pollen and plant images on it put its origins in Jerusalem sometime before the eighth century (way before DaVinci's time, as that is one of the stupid theories out there floating around, that DaVinci created it). The team doing the initial carbon dating, did not even follow their own standard protocol in taking samples. It was crap science at its worst. The only research so far to semi-well replicate the kind of discoloring on flax fibers similar to the Shroud of Turin, was done by an Italian scientific research team, which subjected some flax linen fiber (in a vacuum) to a very, very intense but very brief UV flash. However, though their results were promising, they said that to re-create a shroud like image in it's entirety and under normal, non lab conditions, would take billions more watts--more energy than the entire world generates at a given time. These are the objective truths. On a personal, subjective note, I have had multiple dreams and meditation experiences involving this person. His energy and radiation is the most powerful and Love attuned that I have ever experienced or even have sensed. Have you considered that maybe it's you who is being influenced by the Reptilians in these warped and unbalanced beliefs/perceptions? Yeshua is their number 1 enemy par excellence. They hate him with a passion that most cannot even begin to fathom. Every chance they get, they try to distort peoples perceptions about Yeshua. Why, because the real, core Yeshua free of dogmatic religion, is a force of spiritual liberation and freedom. The Reptilians want to see humans stuck, suffering, and they eventually want to take this world for their own. They covet this world. The only reason why they do not outright physically attack, is because of a collective of positive ET's have told them in no uncertain terms, "if you attack the humans before they are ready to to have a chance in defending themselves, there will be severe, severe consequences for you." (This will not always be the case, in the further future, the positive ET's will let go of our hands and let the Reptilains do what they want to do). However, they are allowed to meddle in more subtle and nonphysical and psychic kinds of ways. Can I have permission to set protective, psychic shielding around you? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 23, 2020 01:17 PM
Thanks for the info Mirage. Unfortunately, not a one of those charts is remotely accurate most likely. Cayce's source was very, very clear when they said that he was born on what would now be called January 6th. Also, in a reading it mentioned when he was born, the weather was cool. (Bethlehem was slightly south of Jerusalem and most likely had a moderate winter climate that in early Jan would be described more as cool rather than outright cold most of the time. Lows average between 40 and 50*F around that time of year for that area--that's shorts weather for me personally). This in combination with the description of his looks (described as having hair a combo of light brown, reddish and golden, eyes gray blue, weight at least 170 which indicates height and/or muscularity for one who fasted so much and ate so little) and that Cayce's source said his Twin Soul, his Mother Miriam was an Aquarius Sun, argues strongly for a Leo Rising (which coincides with all the associated Lion of Judah symbolism). However, for that to be the case, his Soul would have had to completed the connections to the body a little while before physical birth--which happens fairly often. What I don't yet have pin pointed down is the year. In any case, I am not really trying to figure out his exact chart. I was more pointing out what Cayce's guidance said, and why it was apropos that Yeshua was born under Sun in Capricorn (both Tropical and Sidereal). I also thought it was interesting the correlation and similarity between Yeshua and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as to their solar birth sign, their lives of attempted liberation of humanity, and that they were both murdered when Sun was in Aries. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 23, 2020 01:29 PM
And pray tell AthenaGoddess, what is "wrong" with homosexuality? You're wrong about that as well, btw, Yeshua was clearly celibate (which his teachings about eunuchs speak to), but even if he had been homosexual, what is wrong with that? I have personally known a few people who are loving, ethical, positive, kind hearted, positive service oriented folks that are homosexual. If a person raises the "kundalini" (i.e. concentrated electrical forces of the body in the highly conductive spinal fluid) of the body all the way to the Pituitary gland (the true 7th Center), this decreases all sex drive. Besides Cayce's guidance talking about this, I have experienced it myself. During those periods of consistent, deep meditation where I lost all sex drive and focus, I felt unbelievably good, intune, aware, balanced, and clear. I suspect that if a person keeps up such a practice in a very consistent and long term sense, they will start experiencing the conscious phasing into their spiritual body/level i.e. the 5th level/body (not talking about energetic centers/chakras/endocrine glands--different subject). The kundalini energy is very related to sexual, procreative energy and drive. It acts as an amplifier when redirected to the faster vibratory glands in the head. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 3773 From: Oceanic Sands Registered: Nov 2016
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posted November 25, 2020 04:17 PM
There's a guy who used to share his research on this topic. He had compelling evidence that the date of YC (JC) was absolutely a common date we revisit each year in America, before Christmas. In the Summer/Autum months. I tested it out in the chart drawings and it has my full belief he was right. I used so many formats and used other tools to 'disprove ' the guy as I didn't want to believe it. Not January or December. Anyone can come to their own opinions, since we all have them. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 25, 2020 04:24 PM
Certainly, but I don't bet against Cayce. He and his work was the Mozart of psychic downloading of information from the nonphysical into the physical. It's not a 100% accurate, but it's not far either. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1557 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted December 01, 2020 10:35 PM
His name is Yahusha.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 02, 2020 05:34 AM
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 14138 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 02, 2020 02:01 PM
Galactic. Then what you need is the year? Visit the 3 Wise Men url I gave. Saturn-Jupiter conjunction in the sky possibly narrows down the year of birth. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9703 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 02, 2020 02:56 PM
I'm not willing to speculate on birth date for someone if I don't even know existed (not even as a mortal carpenter), though the Energy or Visions may have come about at a certain time (it's interesting how many religions get started by complete strangers having visions who later find each other, and I'm sort of an example of that, though I left the religion later on good terms feeling I no longer needed it, but it was a necessary step in the right direction, like a street one goes down before turning on another).I can appreciate the question all the same, especially for an astrologer. Even if no mortal body was born, something still happened of significance that should be reflected in the stars, and I could see it "pinging" psychics (that is Cayce may very well be correct all the same even if he didn't fully comprehend it--and I want to emphasize that I'm not claiming to know what happened myself). I was inspired over someone pointing out a trivial, and I'd think meaningless, name about something because if it were me then I'd find it worth considering in trying to define the energy. I only regret that I can't come up with an exact date (though about 20 years ago I did an astrological analysis based on the approximate date that did seem significant to me personally at least, and I think others, but the details now escape me). On the plus side, it helps to keep this much shorter than it would otherwise be. So I was a runaway on the streets of 1998. My grandmother did not know this (my mom, fearing the loss of child support, did not report me gone, and lied to my grandmother about me not wanting to talk to her rather than I was missing, which happened immediately after what I'm about to describe). It would be years later (when I was an adult) before I was able to compare notes with my grandmother on this. All I'll say on the triggering event is that a horrible tragedy happened despite all the planning to avert it (and it was bad enough before). I was also badly malnourished (and I think that, stress, and the shrooms I did a few months before contributed to my end of the experience). But I was suicidal and had to be restrained from injecting myself with what would be a lethal amount of drugs to join my best friend of the time who had died before we could rescue her. As I was restrained, I fell into a state of supreme wonder of being alone, flying in a primeval forest of such beauty that is beyond description, and I was floating toward a gigantic tree that was impossibly tall (that I now know to be the World Tree). Touching it allowed me to go to another reality where all was music, and that our world produced music that could be perceived there, and in turn the entities (including the goddess Freya who was, for want of a better word, my Guide, and She and I were able to communicate by wordless song--like dolphins?--that made perfect sense to each other) could Sing that would help shape the mortal world where you and I are on the internet now. She had Sung me into Existence, and I needed to survive this Ragnarok...I'll spare you the paragraphs of what I think it all means in retrospect, just say that she was exactly what I needed to survive then, and that there was a paranormal element to it. When I came to, I was able to carry on, and though my personality had shifted, I was no longer suicidal (or even mopey, at least not much). The experience changed my life. What I later found out is right about the same time (and I believe at the exact time) my grandmother had a nightmare of me choking to death which she awoke from and believed I was in terrible danger. As it was around midnight and hundreds of miles away she didn't know what to do, so she prayed to Jesus. It was intense, and she then felt a rare comfort that THIS TIME Jesus took a personal interest and would take care of me. So what this comes down to is that I believe her prayer was yet another contributing factor to my mystical experience, and that her Jesus was my Freya. Because of my situation, Jesus was not the person I needed to survive, however, and so I got Freya. But even if separate entities (and I'm not sure they are), they were plugged into the same divine source, so that, for that moment in time, Jesus = Freya. Granted, this is the realm of mysticism and spirituality, not religious dogma. I think it's significant in that the ability to adopt different forms and modes of expression (which I don't associate with Cap energy--this doesn't necessarily preclude a force or man now known as Jesus that my grandmother prayed to being born in Capricorn) was infused with a mutable form (though fixed Scorpio can also be the spiritual and physical healer that can also be represented as the Phoenix when at its rare finest). These mystical forces have to be experienced by individual brains rather than a physical universe that can be explored with scientific instruments. (And even the physical universe defies description at times despite the most amazing instruments of science.) Though in truth, if we're talking God/dess, then that divinity would be all things, the Yin-Yang, the Male-Female, the Spiritual-Material, and how opposites are found underlying the other, and is all things, which means all astrological signs, the good and the bad. 'Course having a point in which to enter our reality (whether as a force or an incarnation, like Buddha) might be an interesting detail to look into, though I don't think even if such a time could be localized without doubt that it would be a unique "port of entry" for such a force, though it would very likely shape the "tone" of that force from that entry point. But the Greater Mystery would be well beyond that point in time. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 3250 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 02, 2020 03:10 PM
Pixie, you have made my night. I knew it - all is sound IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 02, 2020 03:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Galactic. Then what you need is the year? Visit the 3 Wise Men url I gave. Saturn-Jupiter conjunction in the sky possibly narrows down the year of birth.
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 02, 2020 04:21 PM
So yeah, we're all part of the Divine, the Divine can take many and any form it wants, we exist in a Oneness beneath our belief and distorted perception of separation. But you seem to be missing the main point of Yeshua and his life. He incarnated into a human form with all its weakness, distortion, and limitations, and by right use of freewill, he overcame all that and showed us what OUR potential was. And that if we live and choose like him, we can become like him. There had been many teachers before him with a similar focus and purpose, and some of them came relatively close to achieving the full/final liberation or in other words--complete conscious Source and pure Love consciousness, but only he FULLY overcame to the nth degree and showed humans that a Consciousness fully imbued with Love is not even limited by death. So Pixie Jane, with your strong intellect, I would direct you to an objective and extensive study (on the science) of the Shroud of Turin. The single most extensive scientific examination of the Shroud, by the STURP team back in 1978, came to the unanimous scientific conclusion that the Shroud was 1. real. 2. not an artistic creation/forgery of any kind 3. bore striking resemblance to all the major historical conditions surrounding Yeshua's torture, crucifixion, and death, and 4. how the image was formed was currently unexplainable and not understood by this scientific team. In 1988, a hack job of carbon dating was done, which "proved" that the Shroud was from the Medieval period. But turns out, that if the people doing the Carbon dating had ever looked at STURP's UV/Luminescence photographs, they would have noticed that the corner piece that they had taken a sample from, was different than the entire rest of the Shroud. They also didn't follow their own full protocol in taking the sample. Crap science, and also potentially suspect. Anyways, it was proven later that the area that they had taken the piece from, was a repair area that had had cotton expertly intertwined with the original flax linen fibers, and there was a mordant dye on the cotton to make it blend in with the aged coloring of the flax linen. Hence, the carbon dating results came from a combo of the age of the original flax linen fibers and the age of the latter cotton repair area. Ray Rogers who became a Shroud skeptic after the 1988 carbon dating, decided that he would prove the amateur team of the Marino's and their paper wrong in 5 minutes. Literal quote to Barry Schwortz. Instead, he ended up proving them right about the repair area. He then, went one step further, and tested the various samples of flax linen fibers taken from the Shroud for their vanillin content as a way to gauge the age. The levels of vanillin indicated that it could easily be 2000 years old. His peer reviewed paper in the chemist science journal Thermochimica Acta has still not been disproven or even well rebutted to date. Oxford (one of the Universities involved with the Carbon dating) just acts like it never happened, and that they and their results are correct. So here's the thing, I have studied this subject in a pretty good and detailed depth, and as objectively as I could (putting on my "scientist and strong Capricorn/Mercury/Virgo "hat") and have read much of the pro and con sides of the debate. The overwhelming evidence ultimately points to it being the burial cloth of the historical Yeshua. The fact that it is the only artifact and burial cloth with this super hard to explain and replicate image on same--combined with the most verified psychic source in the world--the Edgar Cayce work and what his source repeatedly said about Yeshua, and then the historical sources in connection with Yeshua and Christianity (which includes Jewish historians/writers and not just the NT), well things seeming a little "coincidental". Me, I'm the type that goes with the evidence, wherever it leads. Before I became involved with spirituality, I was obsessed with science and wanted to become a scientist. Btw, I wouldn't pigeon hole Capricorn. I have my chart ruler the Sun in Capricorn, and the ruler of my many Virgo placements--Mercury also in Capricorn. I came into this world a hyper empath and natural mystic. Signs are over focused on in astrology as related to personality and especially that deeper part of us i.e. character. In my case, the deeper character and these patterns are correlated with a combo of very strong Jupiter, strong Neptune, a Paran Arcturus-IC aspect, strong Sun, and Angular Pisces SN. I started to receive guidance downloads when I was 12 (the obsessed with science period was from 7 to 12). When I was 4, when my parents asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up, and being so hyper empathic and wide open, I told them, I wanted to be a "doctor" (of feelings/emotions healing) and that I would be there for anyone, all the time, if they needed someone. Others and the worlds' suffering was very much my own suffering at this point, and it was overwhelming. I don't really care about money, status, etc. Don't sound very "Capricorn" do I? Let alone Capricorn with fairly good dose of Virgo (NN, Jupiter Mars conjunction, and ruler of Sun and Mercury--Saturn in Virgo). And please, lets not gloss over the correlation I made between Yeshua and another Liberator type--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. These had some interesting and rather coincidental parallels between them in some deeper ways. Both were trying to teach and affect humanity towards Universal Love (i.e. trying to liberate humanity), both born under Capricorn Sun, both had a pre-awareness of their death at the hands of others (and still persisted), and both were murdered for their teaching/exampling when Sun was in Aries--which just so happens to be the conception period of those born under Capricorn Sun most often. Not sure why others don't find these parallels interesting, but I do. And again, part of the deeper meaning of Capricorn is that of sacrifice of the individual for the collective. It's literally "written in it's Stars". And the goat being one of the seemingly favored animal of sacrifice in ancient times (though in the Taurean Age, bulls/cows were often sacrificed as well). Anyways, when Freya comes down in a human form, does all this stuff, and overcomes physical death--well you bet your bottom dollar that I will pay pretty deep attention to her and her teachings as well. It's easy being spiritual and loving in the nonphysical levels--VERY different doing same while connected to a human form. Till then, the highest example in the Earth we have of Source and Love attunement while connected to a body, is Yeshua. And as mentioned, both the Shroud of Turin and Cayce's work powerfully backs up the resurrection claim. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 02, 2020 05:52 PM
And besides Cayce's work and the Shroud, we also have Robert A. Monroe's interesting run in. During one of his out of body explorations, he asked his guidance if he could meet the most mature (spiritually evolved) human living in his space time reference. He was told sure, but it might not be what you expect (and boy were they right, Bob was fairly floored by the encounter--see Bob grew up not particularly liking nor respecting Christianity). In comes a some 1800 year old ageless, sleepless, non eating/drinking, perfectly balanced between Yin/Feminine and Yang/Masculine, full telepath in human form with a definite sense of humor and who works around the clock in many different jobs because in their simple and humorous words, "I like people". Ok, but Monroe doesn't really name this person, other than giving some clues such as they are occidental in origin (non Asiatic), and implies already well known about in some way, "but nobody really believes you exist." Ok, leaving these bread crumbs out for now, I will direct you to ex Military Remote viewer Joseph McMoneagle, and his book, "The Ultimate Time Machine". Joe and Monroe, at one point had been personal friends, and Joe even married Bob's step daughter, before they had some kind of falling out that no one but them seems to know the reason. Anyways, Joe, NOT a Christian/not religious, relates that when they were still friends, Bob came up to him one time, and said, Joe, I got a sealed envelope here with a target in it that I would like you to try to remote view. He said sure. Bob helped him out by putting him in a CHEC unit and playing some deeply meditative Hemi-Sync binaural beat patterns. Joe starts viewing this powerful, transcendent spiritual being. As he tunes into him more and more, he picks up on his personality and lifetime patterns in the earth. He says, this being incarnates during critical periods in the earth to help nudge humanity in the right direction spiritually and oddly he says that this being always looks the same in these various incarnations and has reddish hair.* He then picks up that he is viewing "Jesus" and picks up that this being has a powerful radiation/emanation of joy, humor, and that in his last earthly life, had been more intellectually and emotionally intense than history often gives him credit for. Joe went so deep in this session that he didn't remember most of it consciously. It was just beyond his conscious understanding/perception, but Bob recorded the audio of the session (as he almost always did with anyone doing exploring for him). Anyways, after the session is done, Bob hands him the envelope and when Joe opens it, he reads Jesus/history of early Christianity (or something very close as this is from memory). Now here is the interesting thing about the detail of the reddish hair. In two Edgar Cayce psychic readings, descriptions of Yeshua's looks came up, and both mention reddish hair for him, which probably was not all that common or typical for Hebrews of the time. Even more interesting is that when the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered some years after Edgar died, there is prophetic scroll titled the "Chosen One", in which it describes a transcendent, nearly all knowing, very just and righteous spiritual teacher and it says, "His hair shall be red". Hmmm, then PMH Atwater, well known researcher and author of NDE's, and someone I have met and interacted with personally, had two NDE's of her own, and in one of them (as outlined in one of her books), she met Yeshua and to her surprise, he was tallish and had reddish hair. (We talked about this in person during a lunch, and to my surprise, she wasn't aware that Cayce's work gave him similar characteristics--there was noticeable pleasant surprise in her face and body language). I remember reading an NDE from a Jewish woman who prior to her NDE had no interest nor focus on Yeshua, but during her NDE she met him and oddly, he had reddish hair. I'm not going to go into my dreams and meditation experiences with Yeshua on a public forum because they are too personal, but suffice it to say, that I have had some. I will tell you this. I have tuned into many, many different beings over the years, both human and non human, and so far, not a ones energy/emanation quite approached his in the raw sense of power, wisdom, and pure unadulterated Love. Not even when I tuned into and briefly communicated with the one that many call the Buddha. It is probably for this reason that Cayce's guidance often referred to Yeshua as the "Master of Masters" and the "Teacher of teachers". If my experience/tuning in is any clue, then I completely understand why Cayce's guidance had such a high, high opinion and respect for this being--which they hint that his larger/original self, is the Co-Creator of this particular Reality and many of the selves in same. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 02, 2020 06:22 PM
Will just briefly mention, I met Joe, didn't particularly like him and his vibe (actually got guidance about him that he still works for what I view as corrupt forces), and a lot of his future predictions in that book seem off. With that said, it is true that between the US military and DIA, they did have Remote viewing programs going every year for almost 18 years, and McMoneagle was one of their remote viewers. The future is the hardest thing to get correct though. It is much easier accurately remote viewing past and current subjects. IP: Logged |
Seraphinesky Newflake Posts: 17 From: jupiter Registered: Nov 2020
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posted December 05, 2020 06:39 PM
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Seraphinesky Newflake Posts: 17 From: jupiter Registered: Nov 2020
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posted December 05, 2020 06:40 PM
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 14138 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 05, 2020 06:45 PM
Found more information about the 'year'. Several elder astrologers pin it down to the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Pisces in the year 7 BC.One astrologer went on to explain how the 'year' was off {from 0 BC/AD} because in Roman Numerals, the number "zero" doesn't exist {which knocked ~4 years off, plus, two philosophers(?) did something to the calendar which knocked more years from 0. EHEMERIS - http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae50/ae__50_m0049.pdf Find pages 262 through 266 of 301 pgs. That's where Jupiter-Saturn traveled together in Pisces. {I didn't hunt to see if there were other planets joining during that span of time.} PJ.. "Conspiracy" and "mythologists" have floated rumors to "deny" that Jesus had been an actual flesh-blood human. Records -- In "Jewish" religious records his birth had been noted {Chronicles). Was during the time when that nation required people to go back to place of origins, to be registered on their Census count. Crucifixion -- The event of his death by crucifixion by order of Roman court was entered on their records. . . Most of what we know about his life and teachings were written down in pieces and letters by eye-witnesses, and (logically probably) by oral stories until they were able to be written down.
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MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 3773 From: Oceanic Sands Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 06, 2020 01:29 AM
GalacticCoreExplosion ~ We might had aligned with one another. Been like-minded and heart connected. ♡ I mean the person in which we read him to be. Our chart (were this one true) reflects we might
Removed the rest as 'other' astrology possibilities are not viewed with 'open minds'. Yet there's so many ways we need to be open as the message comes to many- yet too few listen.
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 06, 2020 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Seraphinesky: Could it possibly be today ??
Any reason why this particular day? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 06, 2020 03:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Found more information about the 'year'. Several elder astrologers pin it down to the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Pisces in the year 7 BC.One astrologer went on to explain how the 'year' was off {from 0 BC/AD} because in Roman Numerals, the number "zero" doesn't exist {which knocked ~4 years off, plus, two philosophers(?) did something to the calendar which knocked more years from 0. EHEMERIS - http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae50/ae__50_m0049.pdf Find pages 262 through 266 of 301 pgs. That's where Jupiter-Saturn traveled together in Pisces. {I didn't hunt to see if there were other planets joining during that span of time.}
Thank you for the further info Mirage. I could see Jupiter-Saturn conjunction possibly be related, and maybe was one of the initial "signs" to the wise men that he would be conceived, and maybe when they started traveling to go try to find him. But as to the Star of Bethlehem, my guidance has told me that was a UFO. If you look at the account closely, you'll note that this "Star" led them exactly to where Yeshua was located. Not possible for a Star, grouping of Planets, nor a comet to do that. And then exactly what were the angelic voices that many heard that night? As to the specific group likely involved, I suggest reading my late friend, Rosalind A. McKnight's book, "Cosmic Journeys" which primarily outlines her "Explorer" sessions with Robert A. Monroe. In a few of her Explorer/guidance sessions, she relates having some very intense experiences with a particular ET group who has been watching over Earth and humanity for a very long time--sort of the guardians of same. She says that they are very Loved based, very service and goal oriented, and very, very evolved. They tell her that occasionally they take highly evolved Souls in human form on board to teach and open them up. They also say, sometimes they send in some of their own energy to incarnate as humans. After reading this, my guidance/intuition told me that they are the same group that took up Ra Ta/Ra of the Edgar Cayce work ("Ra ascended to the mount and was borne away"), took up Elijah in the whirlwind in the OT, and later took up Yeshua as outlined in Acts 1, quote: And when he had said these things, as they saw him, he was taken up and a cloud received him and he was hidden from their eyes. 10 And as they were gazing into the sky, as he was going, two men were present standing with them in white clothing. 11 And they were saying to them, "Galilean men, why are you standing and gazing into the sky? This Yeshua, who was taken up from you into Heaven shall come in this way, as when you saw him going up into Heaven."
It was this same ET group that specifically led the wise men to the exact location where Yeshua was. Astrology does not have much in the way of clues for the most part as to Yeshua's birth and chart, especially when most cannot read the chart deep enough as to patterns related to Soul growth/evolvement or lack. For someone like Yeshua, we need to look to things like Parans, Arcturus, Galactic Core and the like. And for more mundane indications, Sun, Jupiter, Neptune and Venus, and the Universal Signs. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2134 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 06, 2020 03:51 PM
Hi Moon Mystic, tbh, I don't think we can figure out Yeshua's chart based on our present day synastry with his chart. I do think that Cayce's guidance indicating that Yeshua's Mother, who they named as his "Twin Soul" being an Aquarius Sun, along with descriptions of his looks (hair a mix of light brown, reddish and golden, eyes gray-blue, and decent weight for someone that fasted so much and ate so little), could maybe help to narrow down his Rising Sign. And that's about it. My Twin Soul and I have the pattern of Sun opposite Sign the other's Rising Sign (and her Sun is in my 7th). I have seen this pattern in some other relationships that I felt were likely twin souls. I don't think it "Has" to be present in a twin soul connection, but I do think it's one of the more common and stronger ones. It's also present in Synastry of non twin souls. Another couple I sometimes see more than others, is one person's Sun opposite or same Sign as the other's Moon. I also wouldn't look at asteroids. Asteroids do not tell us anything about the main/major synastry. They are subtle, very specific and niche, side notes, which if the main Planets and Sign synastry doesn't support them, then it doesn't matter--just statistical noise. There are so many asteroids, that one could find patterns and connections where there might not be any, because statistically speaking, the more data/variables you enter into the equation, the more likely you are to find correlations and patterns somewhere, somehow. That's why when it comes to synastry, I always focus on the main Planets (including Pluto), Signs, and most used symbols (Moon's Nodes) in Synastry, before looking at other things. It cleans up the data spread and narrows things down. If one finds a very strong Synastry using those symbols, then it could be helpful to look at things like asteroids, Vertex, etc. IP: Logged | |