posted March 07, 2021 02:30 PM            

Sorry, I'll try to relook. *Was here a few minutes so it was a quick peek.

Adding: Aquarius is good imo as a guy who would take balance or offering stability to the "other" as well Venus is implicated. It might be worth asking about it in the interpersonal forum. Seeing the two in midpoint & synastry too could offer how receptive "she" might be to his "supporting" factors. The trine in his chart for me sees him as someone who needs someone he feels is that special one (Venus+Moon he wants a nurturer and possibly attractive, classic lady) he would genuinely want to care for in that way. Aquar is not stingy, when they have resources they share. Everything in the charts should be examined though.

posted March 07, 2021 04:37 PM            

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Just popped in and saw his chart
I noticed his Saturn (?trine iir) the Moon
(Above horizon in the chart, high vibe)
in his chart in Libra. "Female+Other". It looks to me as though providing might be a priority to him his Saturn in 2nd - "values". Like proud to do so. I forgotten to see his Saturn sign.

Sorry, I'll try to relook. *Was here a few minutes so it was a quick peek.

Adding: Aquarius is good imo as a guy who would take balance or offering stability to the "other" as well Venus is implicated. It might be worth asking about it in the interpersonal forum. Seeing the two in midpoint & synastry too could offer how receptive "she" might be to his "supporting" factors. The trine in his chart for me sees him as someone who needs someone he feels is that special one (Venus+Moon he wants a nurturer and possibly attractive, classic lady) he would genuinely want to care for in that way. Aquar is not stingy, when they have resources they share. Everything in the charts should be examined though.

Have a fab day.

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posted March 08, 2021 12:43 AM            

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But most people don’t really want a classy lady who’s a nurturer they don’t appreciate those types.

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I too have noticed that. Most men prefer, lying hoe skanky assed slutty bi tches .

posted March 08, 2021 08:04 AM            

You're welcome.

I meant classy yes but classic too. In this era most women are offended with a man treating her in a classic sense. This guy looks like someone who would offer you your coat. Buy you gifts to show he cares. Maybe frugal ones idk (Capricorn can be frugal). His Venus touching your 2nd It seems you might be receptive to the ways he "shows" you interest, affection?
Can you draw a midpoint chart? The energies might tell even more.

Sorry I hadn't noticed the first chart earlier. My phone offers a miopic view of the NG.

posted March 08, 2021 09:29 AM            

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"Thank you for your input I like to be classy hence my Leo rising. And I feel like I could be a good nurturer my Pisces Venus likes that. But most people don’t really want a classy lady who’s a nurturer they don’t appreciate those types."

You're welcome.

I meant classy yes but classic too. In this era most women are offended with a man treating her in a classic sense. This guy looks like someone who would offer you your coat. Buy you gifts to show he cares. Maybe frugal ones idk (Capricorn can be frugal). His Venus touching your 2nd It seems you might be receptive to the ways he "shows" you interest, affection?
Can you draw a midpoint chart? The energies might tell even more.

Sorry I hadn't noticed the first chart earlier. My phone offers a miopic view of the NG.

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Classic as in Vintage Pinup? Marilyn Monroe? This is the Composite chart.

posted March 08, 2021 10:12 AM            

Jupiter cnj Venus is a nice touch in Gemini! in tarot The Lovers. Do you two have similar philosophical views?Spiritual?  Then there's the trine+sextile  between the nodes/Jupiter +Venus5th house Pisces is fantasy (pinups). Did he or you watch The tv series Madmen? 
Neptune (5th house ruler) in 3rd. Sage,  which rules your MP Jup+Venus.

 There's a cardinal cross with MP Vertex/ Saturn/Chiron which to me sees his Saturn in his own chart is saying "hey, my needs are for healing you, caring for you+ mine is to be a comfort for you". Some people need to provide for others- to feel needed means something to them. Older fashioned ppl are mostly that way but tons more younger ones like to as well.

I might return to skim again .. lastly Capricorn,  Gemini, Libra, Scorpio and some Cancer Suns have been generous in my time. Fire not as much. I have felt the Saturn in Aquarius and possible other fixed signs might be a strong indication for this quality.

posted March 14, 2021 10:07 AM            

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Yes, he might be a 50s type kinda guy. The MM standard could be an arousal to him as his mate. A bit voluptuous.  (Moon is the chest). with the MP chart it is 2nd house. Values.

Jupiter cnj Venus is a nice touch in Gemini! in tarot The Lovers. Do you two have similar philosophical views?Spiritual?  Then there's the trine+sextile  between the nodes/Jupiter +Venus5th house Pisces is fantasy (pinups). Did he or you watch The tv series Madmen? 
Neptune (5th house ruler) in 3rd. Sage,  which rules your MP Jup+Venus.

 There's a cardinal cross with MP Vertex/ Saturn/Chiron which to me sees his Saturn in his own chart is saying "hey, my needs are for healing you, caring for you+ mine is to be a comfort for you". Some people need to provide for others- to feel needed means something to them. Older fashioned ppl are mostly that way but tons more younger ones like to as well.

I might return to skim again .. lastly Capricorn,  Gemini, Libra, Scorpio and some Cancer Suns have been generous in my time. Fire not as much. I have felt the Saturn in Aquarius and possible other fixed signs might be a strong indication for this quality.

 I see this as a good connection, if you asked Stoika or Todd about the other aspects ~ They could better help.

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Thank you for your input personally I've always been into the 50's pinup style and have always wanted to look like one lol. I believe this is probably why I love classic cars and 50's diners etc. My dad actually has one and will leave it to me. But this isn't the 50's and I'd probably get weird looks. I've never heard of Madmen but I'm going to check it out.

posted March 23, 2021 11:24 AM            

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And the placements of selfish stingy tight a s s men too would be good to know. My money is my money and your money is your money type..

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"My money is my money and your money is your money", is adopted by my husband (Gemini) from his parent (Aries vs Scorpio) to our family. I think there's a power struggle issues between Aries vs Scorpio.

When I didn't have a job and took a full time mother, he refuses to provide me, he even told me that my parent should help me with money. It did crush my heart because I came from a family where my Dad is the greatest provider I've ever known. but I realize not everyone can take a responsibility as a provider in a family, especially the husband.

I cried to my Dad when I consulted about whether I should have a divorce or not because of some different principles and life views between me and my husband, but also the major thing like how we see, face, and solve problems, we are rarely in the same page on how we do it. Days later My Dad told me that he sent me some money and messaged me, "use wisely". I started a home business by my own last year and it gets growing.

Thanks to my husband, if he didn't tell me to asked my parents to provide me when I didn't have an income, I wouldn't start my own business and provide my daughter to support her development while my husband is busy with his gambling games, chatting, and I don't care anymore..

posted March 29, 2021 04:12 AM            

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hearttreasure, that sounds awful! Are you saying you had a child with your husband and he refused to provide for you? If so sounds like financial abuse to me! It's a form of abuse and I would not tolerate it.

I had a friend who with her first husband, stayed at home and looked after the house and kids. He went to work. The money went straight to her and she managed all their finances and when he got paid she gave him some money to live off. Lol. Not in a bad way she was probably just better managing everything.

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Yes, we have a child.

I think I kind of know the reasons of all this. I think there's some intervention from his Scorpio Mother as such when she knew I didn't have a job at the moment, she commented like I would be a burden to our family, like it's a bad thing to be a full time mother or if a wife/woman doesn't earn some money she won't be respected. And she gave a gesture that she didn't like it.

Everyday she would question him if I had found a way to earn some money and he pushed me too. It was very stressful days for me because I had a baby that I took care alone, took care all of the house work alone (since his Mother could be anywhere catch up criticizing everything), and I should think very carefully to minimize the possible risks to do something to earn my own money while taking care of my baby. I couldn't take the job opportunity my friend gave me because my husband refused using baby sitter or other people even a help of my family.

But, God is good to me *sob*. When I started open up the business, the blessings keep flowing and growing. I have much less of worriness of the future of me and my daughter than before.

When he knew I started earn some money, he treated me different than when I didn't earn some money.

I agree with someone said here, Scorpio is one who could be greedy and providing at the same time. What I have experienced, mostly they use it as a power/control thing. I also don't see it for a pure generosity.

posted March 29, 2021 08:33 PM            

All earth signs especially earthy Moon and Venus both in men and women they want to give.

Pisces would do the same but they are usually poor or not practical really 😄

Scorpio and Cancer are usually stingy imo, they really don't feel like giving anything unless there are other other helpful aspects.

Aries is definately among the stingiest ones. Sag/Gemini/Libra too.
Leo and Aqua want to show off, so on the outside they might seem large, especially if they are on the wealthier side.. But with their people/family they are very stingy.

All these spend money for themselves though (I mean whatever they like) easily, some of them even overdo it.

I have so many relatives with heavy Aries, Libra and a bit of Leo and Aqua in the mix.. Some of them are rich but all of them are stingy af even with their kids and family. They are cold and self centered and it's aparent in many ways.

My dad had an average job, you haven't seen a person being happier than him when giving presents to me. He was yearning to see me happy and excited. He was very thoughful and observant so he always bought me things I wanted/liked even though I never mentioned anything. Even though he thought of others and would give presents or help them whenever he could, he wasn't filled with excitement. Our synastry definately played a role. He had a Virgo Moon opposite Jupiter because he was organising and clean plus very patient.
I always felt like crying (sometimes I did) not because of the present and/or its price but because of him being so sweet and thoughtful. He never wanted anything back and he would never mention the presents he gave to me to manipulate me.

All the other relatives I talked about above would mention that they gave you a glass of water or that they once called you first no matter if you havd done a million things for them. Ungrateful, self centered robots thinking that they do you a favor because you're breathing the same air with them.

posted March 30, 2021 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I think Capricorn as the "Daddy" of the zodiac is naturally the provider.

All earth signs especially earthy Moon and Venus both in men and women they want to give.

Pisces would do the same but they are usually poor or not practical really 😄

Scorpio and Cancer are usually stingy imo, they really don't feel like giving anything unless there are other other helpful aspects.

Aries is definately among the stingiest ones. Sag/Gemini/Libra too.
Leo and Aqua want to show off, so on the outside they might seem large, especially if they are on the wealthier side.. But with their people/family they are very stingy.

All these spend money for themselves though (I mean whatever they like) easily, some of them even overdo it.

I have so many relatives with heavy Aries, Libra and a bit of Leo and Aqua in the mix.. Some of them are rich but all of them are stingy af even with their kids and family. They are cold and self centered and it's aparent in many ways.

My dad had an average job, you haven't seen a person being happier than him when giving presents to me. He was yearning to see me happy and excited. He was very thoughful and observant so he always bought me things I wanted/liked even though I never mentioned anything. Even though he thought of others and would give presents or help them whenever he could, he wasn't filled with excitement. Our synastry definately played a role. He had a Virgo Moon opposite Jupiter because he was organising and clean plus very patient.
I always felt like crying (sometimes I did) not because of the present and/or its price but because of him being so sweet and thoughtful. He never wanted anything back and he would never mention the presents he gave to me to manipulate me.

All the other relatives I talked about above would mention that they gave you a glass of water or that they once called you first no matter if you havd done a million things for them. Ungrateful, self centered robots thinking that they do you a favor because you're breathing the same air with them.

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This is our synastry his Moon and Venus are in my 2nd house and my Moon is in his 2nd house.

This is his natal chart

posted March 30, 2021 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:

Do you mean people with Venus in Pisces are usually poor? I really hope not because I have Venus in Pisces and my Venus is in the 8th house. I have always been well taken care of. The guy I’m talking about is a Scorpio Sun with Venus in Virgo. So does that mean he would be stingy with money but still like to give? He also has Venus trine Saturn and Venus in the 10th house.

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@ChildofVenus I typed a big text to you and I lost it twice. When I (and I assume many others) say smth about a sign I'm reffering to that sign's traits, in order to have those traits your chart must be heavily influenced by this sign's energy.. In this case it's about Pisces so heavily Neptunian energy means Neptune on the angles, Neptune in hard aspects to your personal planets and lack of helpful aspects & placements at the same time will lead to someone being poor. You can have many negative Neptune aspects/placements but if you have a strong unafflicted Cap Mars and a strong 10th H you will do fine.

In your case you have Venus in 8th H along with Jupiter from what I can see and these two are very lucky placements. You must indeed have been very well taken care of.

These placements by themselves when not afflicted are so good that you can be lazy and offer nothing to others and still have people who will take care (at least) of your basic needs.

I've known Sun, Mercury and Mars in Scorpio men and they are ---> stingy

Mars in hard aspect to Sun (or other personal planets especially Moon and Mercury) makes that planet self centered and aggressive, self centered means caring for himself not for others, which means ---> stingy

Moon in hard aspect to Uranus: I have way more experience than I would like with this one. In case you're taking your relationship with him seriously, be sure to live with him under the same roof and to test him by being depedent on him. He will be generous when he is excited and as long as he doesn't take you for granted.. Once he gets bored you'll see his ugly side.

Venus in Virgo ---> giving

South Node in 8th H ---> sharing/giving

His personal planets in your 2nd H ---> usually giving but I've also seen this play differently where the planet person was taking advantage of the house person.

My guess is he might be giving at first, at least until he takes you for granted.

From a quick look I don't like your synastry.. It doesn't seem long lasting in case you care for that. You also seem to be into him more than he is into you. Be careful with your Mercury-Neptune aspect and your Venus in Pisces plus your Neptune square his Moon, you probably don't see him for what he is.

posted March 30, 2021 11:45 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
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Do you mean people with Venus in Pisces are usually poor? I really hope not because I have Venus in Pisces and my Venus is in the 8th house. I have always been well taken care of. The guy I’m talking about is a Scorpio Sun with Venus in Virgo. So does that mean he would be stingy with money but still like to give? He also has Venus trine Saturn and Venus in the 10th house.

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@ChildofVenus I typed a big text to you and I lost it twice. When I (and I assume many others) say smth about a sign I'm reffering to that sign's traits, in order to have those traits your chart must be heavily influenced by this sign's energy.. In this case it's about Pisces so heavily Neptunian energy means Neptune on the angles, Neptune in hard aspects to your personal planets and lack of helpful aspects & placements at the same time will lead to someone being poor. You can have many negative Neptune aspects/placements but if you have a strong unafflicted Cap Mars and a strong 10th H you will do fine.

In your case you have Venus in 8th H along with Jupiter from what I can see and these two are very lucky placements. You must indeed have been very well taken care of.

These placements by themselves when not afflicted are so good that you can be lazy and offer nothing to others and still have people who will take care (at least) of your basic needs.

I've known Sun, Mercury and Mars in Scorpio men and they are ---> stingy

Mars in hard aspect to Sun (or other personal planets especially Moon and Mercury) makes that planet self centered and aggressive, self centered means caring for himself not for others, which means ---> stingy

Moon in hard aspect to Uranus: I have way more experience than I would like with this one. In case you're taking your relationship with him seriously, be sure to live with him under the same roof and to test him by being depedent on him. He will be generous when he is excited and as long as he doesn't take you for granted.. Once he gets bored you'll see his ugly side.

Venus in Virgo ---> giving

South Node in 8th H ---> sharing/giving

His personal planets in your 2nd H ---> usually giving but I've also seen this play differently where the planet person was taking advantage of the house person.

My guess is he might be giving at first, at least until he takes you for granted.

From a quick look I don't like your synastry.. It doesn't seem long lasting in case you care for that. You also seem to be into him more than he is into you. Be careful with your Mercury-Neptune aspect and your Venus in Pisces plus your Neptune square his Moon, you probably don't see him for what he is.

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I was actually told the opposite by someone else. That the Synastry and Composite shows that he’s the one who has feelings for me. But that I’m the one who’s not really into him. So I don’t think the part about me being more into him is true. Especially when I talk to other people. We also have a lot of Saturn in synastry. So I’m not really sure why it couldn’t be long term if we want to be together. The Composite chart is a lot better than the synastry. But how would you know that I seem to be more into him? He’s not a member on this forum I am. So of course I’m going to be the one talking about him lol. I’ve done a lot of crazy things I shouldn’t have that has made things chaotic between us. He’s always been the one who says he wants things to work between us.

He even calls me momma whatever that means lol. I’m not being delusional I know people automatically assume this because I have Venus in Pisces and Mercury square, Neptune. But no I know when a person has issues and I don’t pretend or act like people are perfect. I do have Venus/Saturn and Mercury/Saturn as well. I have Moon in Aquarius and I tend to attract men who have Moon/Uranus in their natal chart. I honestly don't think there is any way to avoid this. He's not the first guy I've been involved with who has this aspect. In fact, that's probably why he's attracted to me because my Aquarius Moon feels comfortable to his Moon being as though it's in aspect to Uranus.

posted March 31, 2021 07:45 PM            

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I was actually told the opposite by someone else. That the Synastry and Composite shows that he’s the one who has feelings for me. But that I’m the one who’s not really into him. So I don’t think the part about me being more into him is true. Especially when I talk to other people. We also have a lot of Saturn in synastry. So I’m not really sure why it couldn’t be long term if we want to be together. The Composite chart is a lot better than the synastry. But how would you know that I seem to be more into him? He’s not a member on this forum I am. So of course I’m going to be the one talking about him lol. I’ve done a lot of crazy things I shouldn’t have that has made things chaotic between us. He’s always been the one who says he wants things to work between us.

He even calls me momma whatever that means

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I won't talk about the composite because I haven't formed an opinion on their role and how it plays out in reality. I find confusing that the composite charts with people I personally get along with, are either full of squares and oppositions or almost empty where you berely see some soft aspects with many key planets being completely unaspected (I'm reffering to major aspects). On the other hand with people I don't get along with I have much better and peaceful looking composite charts. I know I must be missing smth, I haven't spend much time on composites and I find synastries to be very reliable.
You could ask about it in the Synastry section. Maybe Todd or other experienced members would be able to help you.

Saturn in theory is glue, in reality it depends on each person's natal chart and it can be unbearable or it may indicate that there are obstacles int the relationship put either by one of the natives or by external circumstances.

• His Saturn square your Sun:

Your Sun trines Uranus natally and doesn't receive any major hard aspects, a square from Saturn might not be received well but let's suppose it will be workable since your Sun is earthy (Taurus).

• Saturn square Venus:

His Venus is peaceful like your Sun. Meaning it doesn't receive any hard aspects but let's suppose he will be able to handle it because his Venus is also earthy (Virgo) and in 10th H. Still we're talking about another square on a planet that doesn't receive hard aspects natally.

• Saturn sextile Venus:
This is the only positive Saturn aspect I see unless I missed smth.

In your previous relationships did you have hard/soft Saturn aspects? Were those relationship long lasting? It would be helpful to see which aspects you have experienced before and how they played out.

• Pluto conjunct Mars: nice for passionate sex.

• His Mars square your Moon: Hot for sex however staying together might prove to be problematic. Your Moon squares Pluto natally so you might be able to handle the square from his Mars especially since your Pluto conjuncts his Mars.

The above aspects are not my main concern.

You have some nice aspects like Venus trine Mercury, Venus opposite Venus is a bit overrated but still it's nice, Venus opposite Moon, Moon opposite Jupiter (although the last 2 are not very tight but they will still be felt).

● His Moon opposite Uranus and on top of that your Neptune squaring his Moon is a red flag.

● Then his Uranus and Neptune are squaring your Mercury, another red flag.

• Uranus square Venus: unstable, I wouldn't mention it because I thought it was his Uranus on your Venus and since you have it natally I wouldn't be too concerned. But it's your Uranus on his Venus.

• South Node conjunct Moon: South Node connections seem to be long lasting when it comes to friendships but the opposite seems to be true when it comes to romantic relationships. I don't think of it as a red flag, i just mention it because it's said that it's not long lasting.

• But you have Jupiter and Mercury squaring his NN, his NN though doesn't receive squares natally. Usually (personal experience included) the North Node petson sees the planet person as an obstacle, as someone who holds him back. If he had squares to his NN natally I wouldn't mention this one either.

Even from a more generic but still useful pov you have:

16 squares 5 orbs and under (excluding those among generational planets)

12 in total conjunctions, oppositions, trines and sextiles 5 ords and under (exluding those among generational planets)

14 Inconjunctions.

I'm explaining to you why I don't see this as a good synastry. You will do whatever you want, I would tell you to go for it if you feel compelled to do so.. there might be a lesson for you to learn through this relationship.
Seeing your synastry chart with squares who are hot at first but turn into bikering/arguments/competitiveness later once the honeymoon phase is over, Uranus and Neptune excitement and magic will also fade once that first phase is over.. And then what's left? Not enough positive aspects imo.

You can prolong this by keeping the relationship in the honeymoon phase as much as possible which is perfectly fine.
But if you're looking for the classic-traditional longterm relationship ---> living together ---> getting married ----> having kids, my advice (which would apply to everybody actually but even more to a synastry and a natal chart like yours) to stay with him and when I say stay I don't mean going to his home every evening and stay for the night. I mean moving together and share your daily lives. Nowadays you don't test someone by making his life difficult or playing hard to get.. You test him by making him take you for granted 😄
Some love to chase, some love what they feel they can't have, some love the idea of smth or someone but not its reality.

posted March 31, 2021 09:27 PM            

In the link above I asked @Stoika7 about the synastry and composite that's why I said I've been told the opposite.

Yes, I have Venus square Saturn in synastry with other people I have it in my natal chart as well. So I tend to have this in synastry with most people. He has Moon square Uranus and Moon square Neptune in his own natal chart. And I have Mercury square Neptune in my own chart. This is probably why we have it in our synastry. Some aspects you have in synastry with people. Because you have those same aspects in your own natal chart. And it's unlikely that those aspects can be avoided regardless of the person you are involved with. It's the same for Venus square Uranus. I have Venus square Uranus in my own chart. And I always have this aspect in synastry with people. I've read that South Node aspects can feel comforting and that the two people may feel familiar to each other. Some people don't even count squares between the Nodes and personal planets. They say that the conjunction is what really counts.

posted April 01, 2021 09:47 PM            

Some of the aspects you're talking about I checked and they do not even appear on the synastry aspect list because they are too wide.

You have Venus square Saturn and Neptune 8-9 orbs, but your tightest aspect by far is the square to Uranus which happens to be your DSC ruler and it's in your 5th H of romance.
Were your previous relationships with Saturn on your Venus long lasting? Did your short lasting relationships have Saturn hard aspects? Your previous experiences are your best guide.

I know I don't take well Saturn on any of my planets even less when it's very close to the planets aspected by Uranus.

• Again his Moon square Neptune is so wide (9 orbs), while in synastry it's 2-3 orbs tight. The Neptune square Moon remains.
However I realised that his Moon has a trine to Saturn and it's as tight as the square to Uranus. It's a nice soft aspect, I trust it helps quite a bit with his Moon/Uranus square.

I agree with him, you should go live together (if you feel like it of course), it's the best way to get to know him especially when it comes to Moon problematic aspects, other than our emotional world, Moon indicates how we live in the comfort of our home on a daily basis.

* Btw any guy who isn't interested in astrology will tell you the same obviously, all they know is 12 signs. It doesn't make sense to devide billions of people into 12 categories. That's how I started testing astrology before I form my opinion. It doesn't help that famous astrologers say generic bs (in my country that's the case at least) that would apply to at least half of the population anyway.
Astrology imo doesn't dictate, astrology includes everything about us but the difficult part is to understand all that, which is easier after one experience (for example a relationship) is over. In a way astrology makes many experiences worth it just for the astrological knowledge/understanding they give you. Took me 3 guys with Mars in early Scorpio square my Saturn and a couple of others with whom I didn't have this aspect to understand how problematic it was for me. An aquaintance of mines doesn't have such a big issue with the same aspect though.

I agree that some aspects you can't escape unless you fall for people with a big age difference. However that isn't the case with Uranus square Venus in your synastry because it's not his Uranus on your Venus which already forms a square with Uranus natally. It's your Uranus squaring his Venus, his Venus doesn't receive any hard aspect from Uranus nor his 7th H does. It's new energy for him, he's not familiar with it.

Also most negative aspects seem to be way tighter in your synastry compared to your natal aspects. Do you tend to be attracted to men younger than you often? Maybe with men a little bit older than you, some of the negative aspects you have natally would be eliminated/minimized in your synastry?
What's your experience on this?

I saw the Neptune square Mercury aspect in your natal chart, you might be comfortable or at least able to handle/endure it better than him. I don't know if he will take it well in the long run. However he has Mercury in 12th H natally so he is familiar with Neptunian energy on Mercury, but on the other hand other than his Mercury trining your Venus I don't see any other positive Mercury aspects. I see though (theoritically at least) positive Mercury house placements. His Mercury in your 4th H and yours in his 4th H.

South Node aspects feel familiar and I've seen them being good in friendships but in romantic relationships they don't help in longetivity. I can't say fir sure about it.

I definately do not belong to those people who don't count Node squares. Everytime a someone (myself included) says smth among the lines of someone holding him back/feeling like an obstacle in their lives there will be a planet or more squaring that person's North Node (I'm talking about 5-6 orbs squares). I would prefer no aspects at all than squares to the NN.

I do like the house overlays. Nothing really negative there and since he wants you to live together your planets in his 4th H definately work positevely. I know theory says so too about 4th H placements but it doesn't work like that in my case. It's funny how many of the things you or theory says do not apply to me and some of my friends. That's why the natal chart in itself is the most important thing even when it comes to compabillity and predictions. Same exact thing works differently for everyone depending on their chart. So good synastry doesn't have to be all trines and sextiles, but the imbalance among negatives and positives plus a couple of the negative spects I mentioned are what make me feel that this isn't a good synastry overall. Again your previous relationship experience would be very helpful.

You are saying how he's the one who wants it. How do you feel about it? Are you excited/hopeful but scared because you feel unsure about how this will go? Are you really mildly attracted to him, but you just want to settle down/get married/have children and you're thinking that he might be a good choice because he wants it the most? Maybe you're also tired of searching? Do you like him and want to be with him but you also want your freedom/space, so moving with him scares you? How do you feel?

posted April 02, 2021 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
@ChildofVenus

Some of the aspects you're talking about I checked and they do not even appear on the synastry aspect list because they are too wide.

You have Venus square Saturn and Neptune 8-9 orbs, but your tightest aspect by far is the square to Uranus which happens to be your DSC ruler and it's in your 5th H of romance.
Were your previous relationships with Saturn on your Venus long lasting? Did your short lasting relationships have Saturn hard aspects? Your previous experiences are your best guide.

I know I don't take well Saturn on any of my planets even less when it's very close to the planets aspected by Uranus.

• Again his Moon square Neptune is so wide (9 orbs), while in synastry it's 2-3 orbs tight. The Neptune square Moon remains.
However I realised that his Moon has a trine to Saturn and it's as tight as the square to Uranus. It's a nice soft aspect, I trust it helps quite a bit with his Moon/Uranus square.

I agree with him, you should go live together (if you feel like it of course), it's the best way to get to know him especially when it comes to Moon problematic aspects, other than our emotional world, Moon indicates how we live in the comfort of our home on a daily basis.

* Btw any guy who isn't interested in astrology will tell you the same obviously, all they know is 12 signs. It doesn't make sense to divide billions of people into 12 categories. That's how I started testing astrology before I form my opinion. It doesn't help that famous astrologers say generic bs (in my country that's the case at least) that would apply to at least half of the population anyway.
Astrology imo doesn't dictate, astrology includes everything about us but the difficult part is to understand all that, which is easier after one experience (for example a relationship) is over. In a way astrology makes many experiences worth it just for the astrological knowledge/understanding they give you. Took me 3 guys with Mars in early Scorpio square my Saturn and a couple of others with whom I didn't have this aspect to understand how problematic it was for me. An aquaintance of mines doesn't have such a big issue with the same aspect though.

I agree that some aspects you can't escape unless you fall for people with a big age difference. However that isn't the case with Uranus square Venus in your synastry because it's not his Uranus on your Venus which already forms a square with Uranus natally. It's your Uranus squaring his Venus, his Venus doesn't receive any hard aspect from Uranus nor his 7th H does. It's new energy for him, he's not familiar with it.

Also most negative aspects seem to be way tighter in your synastry compared to your natal aspects. Do you tend to be attracted to men younger than you often? Maybe with men a little bit older than you, some of the negative aspects you have natally would be eliminated/minimized in your synastry?
What's your experience on this?

I saw the Neptune square Mercury aspect in your natal chart, you might be comfortable or at least able to handle/endure it better than him. I don't know if he will take it well in the long run. However he has Mercury in 12th H natally so he is familiar with Neptunian energy on Mercury, but on the other hand other than his Mercury trining your Venus I don't see any other positive Mercury aspects. I see through (theoretically at least) positive Mercury house placements. His Mercury in your 4th H and yours in his 4th H.

South Node aspects feel familiar and I've seen them being good in friendships but in romantic relationships, they don't help in longevity. I can't say for sure about it.

I definitely do not belong to those people who don't count Node squares. Every time someone (myself included) says smth among the lines of someone holding him back/feeling like an obstacle in their lives there will be a planet or more squaring that person's North Node (I'm talking about 5-6 orbs squares). I would prefer no aspects at all than squares to the NN.

I do like the house overlays. Nothing really negative there and since he wants you to live together your planets in his 4th H definitely work positively. I know theory says so too about 4th H placements but it doesn't work like that in my case. It's funny how many of the things you or theory says do not apply to me and some of my friends. That's why the natal chart in itself is the most important thing even when it comes to compatibility and predictions. Same exact thing works differently for everyone depending on their chart. So good synastry doesn't have to be all trines and sextiles, but the imbalance among negatives and positives plus a couple of the negative aspects I mentioned are what make me feel that this isn't a good synastry overall. Again your previous relationship experience would be very helpful.

You are saying how he's the one who wants it. How do you feel about it? Are you excited/hopeful but scared because you feel unsure about how this will go? Are you really mildly attracted to him, but you just want to settle down/get married/have children and you're thinking that he might be a good choice because he wants it the most? Maybe you're also tired of searching? Do you like him and want to be with him but you also want your freedom/space, so moving with him scares you? How do you feel?

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Based on what I've read about Mercury square North Node in synastry it seems like there is an opportunity for growth.

Mercury opposite, square or semi-square True Lunar Node in the synastry chart. You both have the opportunity to bring forth each others' intellectual gifts, yet True Lunar Node person may be too focused on the past to allow Mercury person to fully deliver their message or impart significant teaching.

If it were Mars square North Node I could see how that aspect would indicate feeling held back by the planet person.

With an older guy the Virgo who's 13 years older than me, we also have Venus square Saturn, Venus square Uranus and Moon conjunct Saturn I'm the Saturn person. His Saturn also squares my Mercury we've been hooking up for six years now. So I don't know if being with someone older would really make a difference. In my past yes I've been attracted to younger men.

With the Scorpio guy, I feel like if we were together we would learn and grow with each other. I think having a relationship with him would be beneficial to my growth. When we first started talking I was looking for a hookup but now I actually like him. He said that he see's potential with us. Maybe he's delusional having Moon square Neptune and Mercury in the 12th house? I would really like to be with him though. At first I wasn't sure but now I want to try. I wish I wouldn't have acted crazy and erratic with him. Because now I actually want something with him. He just started his Saturn return this year I think he's going through a lot of changes.

This is the synastry between him and his ex they were together for awhile. I don't know her birth time he said he was hurt with her. And they have positive aspects so really

My ex and I met in high school and we were together for seven years.

posted April 03, 2021 08:01 PM            

I understand. Since your Uranus is in the 4th H is kind of a similar energy to his Moon/Uranus aspect I guess. The synastry with your ex seems a little bit better.
We're also missing other things to see the duration of the relationship, like progressions and transits. Even though I've seen cases like one's progressive Venus to the other's person natal Moon being into a relationship and as soon as the P.Venus moves the relationship is over, I've seen it also with transits. The longer the transits/progressions the longer the relationship. Maybe you could see if it was the case with your ex of 7 years. Then check if a transit/progression started when you met this Scorpio guy.

T.Saturn is on your Moon just like my N.Saturn 😄. It may be why you're in the mood for smth stable but it could also be a sign. Give it a try! I'be waiting to see how that Neptune square Moon aspect will play out.
You have Mars/Saturn and Saturn/Moon hard aspects in your previous synastry. How did it play out for you?

posted April 04, 2021 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
@ChildofVenus

I understand. Since your Uranus is in the 4th H is kind of similar energy to his Moon/Uranus aspect I guess. The synastry with your ex seems a little bit better.
We're also missing other things to see the duration of the relationship, like progressions and transits. Even though I've seen cases like one's progressive Venus to the other's person natal Moon being into a relationship and as soon as the P.Venus moves the relationship is over, I've seen it also with transits. The longer the transits/progressions the longer the relationship. Maybe you could see if it was the case with your ex of 7 years. Then check if a transit/progression started when you met this Scorpio guy.

T.Saturn is on your Moon just like my N.Saturn 😄. It may be why you're in the mood for smth stable but it could also be a sign. Give it a try! I'be waiting to see how that Neptune square Moon aspect will play out.
You have Mars/Saturn and Saturn/Moon hard aspects in your previous synastry. How did it play out for you?

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