posted March 11, 2021 11:50 PM            

I was watching the documentary on the torture murder of Gabriel Fernandez... felt so sad and anguish over this... a beautiful, happy boy went to live with his mom for a short period of 6 mths and he got tortured to death(?!). 😡 Anyway I got curious and checked the transits on the day he died. Transit Pluto and Uranus were in an exact square with Pluto almost exactly on his natal Mars (1deg) and Uranus square it. He has Dejanira square Pluto in natal and when the abuse started, tr NN was at the midpoint.

I also checked the natal of a friend who passed away in 2019. He has natal Mars opposite Pluto. On the day of his passing, tr Mars conjunct his nPluto and tr Chiron conjunct his nMars. When he was first diagnosed with Cancer, he was having his reversed nodal return and tr Neptune was conjunct his natal NN and tr Saturn square his Nodes.

I checked yet another chart - Shannan Watts who was murdered by her husband. She has natal Pluto conjunct Mars. tr Mars was square that conjunction and tr Uranus was opposite it when he took her life.

posted March 11, 2021 11:59 PM            

- Your studies, maybe you can research degs. 22° is one. I atm forgotten specifics, someone might have info on critical degrees. ~ or you could search them.

posted March 12, 2021 01:29 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I think the fixed stars that are considered especially deadly, dangerous are often involved too The particular degrees in signs as well can be indicative of a fated death.
Each researcher has a wealth of knowledge out there but it might not be as simple as the transits of Mars or Pluto only.

- Your studies, maybe you can research degs. 22° is one. I atm forgotten specifics, someone might have info on critical degrees. ~ or you could search them.

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posted March 12, 2021 05:15 PM            

But remember that you may not necessarily die if you are going through a Pluto Mars stressful transit.

Some death come through Jupiter, usually after a long illness.

Some death might come through Saturn, Uranus, even Venus.

posted March 12, 2021 05:44 PM            

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posted March 14, 2021 03:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
But remember that you may not necessarily die if you are going through a Pluto Mars stressful transit.

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Yes of course, haha...I don’t mean this transit will bring death to everyone. I’m sure how and when we die are already written in our natal. I just happened to see this transit in the 3 charts I looked. Perhaps Mars/Pluto ruled or are in a significant house in their charts linking to their deaths, I’m not sure since I only know my friend’s ToB. For him Mars/Pluto rule his 12H.

posted March 14, 2021 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:

Why would Jupiter bring death?

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Usually after a long illness.

If you have a a protracted debilitating or painful illness that was not going to get better, wouldn't death come as a relief? Jupiter does that for you.

I had a relative who after a stroke lived in a wheelchair for 4 years as an invalid. He was utterly miserable. He passed away when transit jupiter conjuncted his sun. Jupiter acted there as a merciful liberator.

We insist on seeing all death as bad, and it is not necessarily so.

posted March 14, 2021 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Usually after a long illness.

If you have a a protracted debilitating or painful illness that was not going to get better, wouldn't death come as a relief? Jupiter does that for you.

I had a relative who after a stroke lived in a wheelchair for 4 years as an invalid. He was utterly miserable. He passed away when transit jupiter conjuncted his sun.

We insist on seeing all death as bad, and it is not necessarily so.

The only certainty we have in this life is death. Each and every single one of us wlll get there sooner or later.

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posted March 14, 2021 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I have Jupiter in the 8th in Taurus and my throat chakra is slowly getting raped to death and I cant call for help.

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What is going on??????

posted March 14, 2021 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I have Jupiter in the 8th in Taurus and my throat chakra is slowly getting raped to death and I cant call for help.

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posted March 14, 2021 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I think the fixed stars that are considered especially deadly, dangerous are often involved too The particular degrees in signs as well can be indicative of a fated death.
Each researcher has a wealth of knowledge out there but it might not be as simple as the transits of Mars or Pluto only.

- Your studies, maybe you can research degs. 22° is one. I atm forgotten specifics, someone might have info on critical degrees. ~ or you could search them.

added http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013910.html

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Thanks for the link.
When my friend was diagnosed with the terminal cancer, his pSun was going towards 29th degree in Pisces, entering Aries Point. His pMars was going towards 9th deg in Taurus.

posted March 15, 2021 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
What is going on??????

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Reptilian rape. I cant call the police on them and they want me dead so all I can do is fight back spiritually.

They are making people possess my throat chakra and then they have sex with them and I can feel it. They are trying to take my pride as much as they can.

posted March 15, 2021 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Reptilian rape. I cant call the police on them and they want me dead so all I can do is fight back spiritually.

They are making people possess my throat chakra and then they have sex with them and I can feel it. They are trying to take my pride as much as they can.

I Just hope they don't win. I don't want to die young. But transit Uranus is going to conjunct my Jupiter in the 8th house soon, and that can either mean I die or get lucky.

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