posted March 16, 2021 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Chiron squares the Sun and Mars. I find that CHiron/Mars in hard aspects is someone who does not feel comfortable with masculinity.

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posted March 16, 2021 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Belage, thanks.

Ami Anne, thanks. Good to know my Mars Chiron is too wide. I knew couple men with mars sq. Chiron. They weren’t a manly man type and had something creepy going on.

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posted March 17, 2021 08:49 AM            

The male principle is to go after what you want. This is the meaning of Mars.

If you Mars has stress, this can be impaired and you cannot go after what you want.

With Chiron/Mars in hard aspect, the man feels he is "not a man" and this bothers him because he knows he does not go after the goals he wants in a strong and confident way.

Often, a bad relationship with the dad is at the root.

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posted March 17, 2021 08:52 AM            

It could also mean hurt from the job you do everyday I.e office politics that cause mental fatigue & physical exhaustion or ailments. Perhaps even a demanding job schedule that leaves you burned out?

Chiron in 6th may get a misdiagnosis, be treated for the wrong ailment or spend money on a specialist whom is not competent etc.

In the above case, it may result in the native being more vigilant about their own body/state of well-being.This because they DON'T want to be duped anymore.

The other possibility is someone who is open to trying "alternative" medicine or something more natural/herbal based.

posted March 17, 2021 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

The male principle is to go after what you want. This is the meaning of Mars.

If you Mars has stress, this can be impaired and you cannot go after what you want.

With Chiron/Mars in hard aspect, the man feels he is "not a man" and this bothers him because he knows he does not go after the goals he wants in a strong and confident way.

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posted March 17, 2021 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Chiron in 6th can suggest hurt coming from someone you trusted with your health/ mental well-being. A specialist, a healer, a doctor, a trainer, a therapist.

It could also mean hurt from the job you do everyday I.e office politics that cause mental fatigue & physical exhaustion or ailments. Perhaps even a demanding job schedule that leaves you burned out?

Chiron in 6th may get a misdiagnosis, be treated for the wrong ailment or spend money on a specialist whom is not competent etc.

In the above case, it may result in the native being more vigilant about their own body/state of well-being.This because they DON'T want to be duped anymore.

The other possibility is someone who is open to trying "alternative" medicine or something more natural/herbal based.

Perhaps they develop an aversion to pills/ injections etc.That western doctors use to treat a disease.

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I’ve avoided going to the ER, when others run there, because I have no insurance, and I see that they’re only temporarily helped - although they do need that help.

I have managed to take care of some things by myself, including when I had that massive burn all down my chest and the top half of my stomach. But I can’t handle everything by myself.

Ami used to say that Chiron conjunct sun showed issues with the father. I don’t often have that, my dad is a good man, and he’s actually told me to go to the doctor or the dentist, and we will find a way to pay for it all. We need national health care here, but we’re a long way from it, if we ever get it. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want to get into it. I've dealt with family who made things a lot worse, mental health wise, but that was mainly my sister, and I've vented about all of that before.

posted March 17, 2021 01:38 PM            

He would go crazy if you called him a girl. He can't help it and it is prolly subconscious. You have to take what the chart says in people. People don't really change except with God and it is from God and not other people telling them what to do. This is one of the life lessons for everyone.

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posted March 17, 2021 03:00 PM            

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ChildofVenus, there were details what would be long to explain. When they made a move, I usually needed much time to acknowledge what it was. Definitely, problem to assert themselves in a right way.
Your guy’s mars is aspected better. Mars Sun is almost contrary of Mars Chiron. It gives courage to assert. I’d think it might be the pull and push effect with these two placements. Also, all those sextiles are helpful..

Hm, I wonder If Mars Chiron guy got actually offended when I called him a girl. Actually, I wanted to call him much worse that time, but stuck with polite sarcasm.

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posted March 17, 2021 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I’ve avoided going to the ER, when others run there, because I have no insurance, and I see that they’re only temporarily helped - although they do need that help.

I have managed to take care of some things by myself, including when I had that massive burn all down my chest and the top half of my stomach. But I can’t handle everything by myself.

Ami used to say that Chiron conjunct sun showed issues with the father. I don’t often have that, my dad is a good man, and he’s actually told me to go to the doctor or the dentist, and we will find a way to pay for it all. We need national health care here, but we’re a long way from it, if we ever get it. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want to get into it. I've dealt with family who made things a lot worse, mental health wise, but that was mainly my sister, and I've vented about all of that before.

I used to be very interested in alternative medicine, and wanted to study to possibly become a herbalist, but I don't trust myself to know what's right for other people. Even though I know all of the training that people go through, to become professionals, I can't put myself in a position to be responsible for the health of someone else. It makes me anxious. So I learn what I can, for myself. But that also went out of the window for years, due to what happened with my sister.

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Sun-Chiron imo is the feeling that no matter how bright you shine. No matter what you achieve. And how visible your "lighthouse" is. You still FEEL inadequate.

You may be brilliant & accomplished in the area of life that Sun is in or rules(Leo house cusp). But the confidence & self belief is not consistent.

You continue to see yourself as "lacking" or "less than". It's very confidence crippling at worst. And that is because you are simply unable to see yourself in a complete, unblemished & clear light.

posted March 17, 2021 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
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He would go crazy if you called him a girl. He can't help it and it is prolly subconscious. You have to take what the chart says in people. People don't really change except with God and it is from God and not other people telling them what to do. This is one of the life lessons for everyone.

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Aren’t transits changing us? When I look back at some of my actions, I would do differently having my new experience and knowledge.
In that situation, I was angry with him, not trying to change anymore.

posted March 17, 2021 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
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... You have to take what the chart says in people. People don't really change except with God and it is from God and not other people telling them what to do. This is one of the life lessons for everyone.

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You are so right.

posted March 18, 2021 10:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Aren’t transits changing us? What’s about learning to take responsibility and becoming more adult because you hurt somebody or yourself. Some things about me got changed. I feel like I might change more. When I look back at some of my actions, I would do differently having my new experience and knowledge.
In that situation, I was angry with him. He can assert if it is about having power and control and do me wrong. He couldn’t step up to make things better and accept his mistakes. He was my Pluto.

ChildofVenus, I don’t know what kind of relationships you have, but it seems like he is around you for a while and keep reaching out. Guys I talked about had a tendency to run or hide when something went wrong or not how they wanted. (One could assert more in some situations and the other in the different ones) You might have a better synastry.
Also, I recall something about Libra guys feminine side, but I don’t remember for sure. However, officially Scorpio is considered to be a feminine energy sign.

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posted March 18, 2021 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:

I used to be very interested in alternative medicine, and wanted to study to possibly become a herbalist, but I don't trust myself to know what's right for other people. Even though I know all of the training that people go through, to become professionals, I can't put myself in a position to be responsible for the health of someone else. It makes me anxious. So I learn what I can, for myself. But that also went out of the window for years, due to what happened with my sister.

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That makes a lot of sense.

I think if you manage to learn enough about how to heal yourself and you are able to get your symptoms under control or even in remission, you will develop the confidence needed to enter the health field and heal other people.

Most of the best healers had to heal themselves first.

posted March 19, 2021 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
He does the same thing and then I have to keep at him for him to say what's going on.

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posted March 19, 2021 05:17 PM            

I have had a lot of trouble with digestive issues that are difficult to pin down, as Belage said. I also transmute this by becoming a holistic nutritionist and working with clients to help them find healing. My issues flare up somewhat randomly and are exacerbated by my day to day job, which is extremely physical and leaves me depleted... as Aries23 said.