posted March 21, 2021 04:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Thank you for this thread Graham. An astrology board using astrology to understand itself and its transits is a great idea. I think this could be really helpful and a good way to learn more about astrology in real time.

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Fingers crossed that it does not get dismissed as "advice that was not asked for", Voix.

posted March 21, 2021 05:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
The way in which things are corrected does not matter, EE. What matters is that they are corrected.

That has not happened.

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If the way does not matter, then why do we believe that the ″forum's owner″ way is not correct?

posted March 21, 2021 05:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
The way in which things are corrected does not matter, EE. What matters is that they are corrected.

That has not happened.

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And if what matters is that they are corrected, how can we know when is the right time for this to happen? Is time absolute or relevant after all?...

posted March 21, 2021 06:02 AM            

Why shouldn't we give all of our attention to all the positive and great interactions that are surely going to arise?

posted March 21, 2021 11:08 AM            

If the way does not matter, then why do we believe that the ″forum's owner″ way is not correct?

Because the forum owners way has resulted in one his Moderators engaging in passive-aggression** ... which I believe sets the wrong example for forum members.

Here (again) is the passive-aggressive behaviour example being given to forum members :-

aquaguy91
Moderator
Posts: 12314
** From: Rent Free in Grahma male's head**
Registered: Jan 2012]
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And if what matters is that they are corrected, how can we know when is the right time for this to happen? Is time absolute or relevant after all?

There is no doubt in my mind that NOW/IMMEDIATELY is always the correct time for a forum owner to advise/instruct his Moderators to not interact aggressively with forum members (either passively or actively/openly).

And ... to be honest ... I cannot understand at all why Randall - as the LL forum owner - considers it ok to allow his moderator(s) to do so.
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Why should we give our attention to any negative interactions that may arise?
Why shouldn't we give all of our attention to all the positive and great interactions that are surely going to arise?

In this way we will fill our hearts with strength, love and courage to overcome anything unpleasant that comes in our way...

posted March 22, 2021 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Dear Graham,

Most of all, we should l i v e...

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Interestingly, EE ... it was my attempts to give that same advice (in different words) to AG/the moderator that resulted in his open-aggressive attacks on me ... and led to the forum manager stating that "advice which has not been asked for, should not be given'.

And now, you have given me the above quoted advice (and rightly so, imo) - which has not been asked for, but is perceived by you as being of potential benefit to me. ... Yet, that behaviour by you is the polar opposite of how Randall is wanting LL forum members to interact with each other.

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posted March 22, 2021 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The “forum owner” has a name. Let’s keep it real. If your hypothesis were correct, there would have been numerous incidences of disagreements instead of just a single incident where you were involved in a thread where you kept pushing your unsolicited advice on AG. AG reacted harshly in that thread and then apologized for his behavior. You knew he didn’t want or need your advice, so you should have stayed away from him, yet you persisted in another thread, and AG took it badly thinking that you were going after him after the death of his mother. So, the evidence does not support your hypothesis. This conflict was caused by your own passive aggressive behavior, because you were quite aware that AG didn’t want your advice. He was wrong—perhaps doubly so, since he is a Mod—but you contributed to it, as well. So, LL does not have a problem with its chart. The problem is and always has been over miscommunications and personality issues. Both are understandable in a forum environment. If someone doesn’t like you or you don’t like them, stay away from that person’s threads. Simple solution, yes? Let’s not blame Astrology for our bad behavior. Astrology should be wielded as a tool, not a weapon. Those last two sentences are general statements and not intended to single anyone out. And this thread is an example of two things: 1. A passive aggressive shot at me. 2. Giving me your astrological advice, which I do not want or need. That being said, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, astrologically or otherwise, but you can’t blame Astrology for a conflict which you yourself participated in and even initiated and agitated and then come here with a solution for said problem. The solution is to stay away from people you don’t get along with. LL is a big place. AG is here very little compared to you. Unless you get a sick, perverse joy out of evoking a negative response in people, just stay away from him. I fail to see the difficulty in that.

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posted April 10, 2021 03:22 AM            

"Stationing retrograde on May 22, 2021, at 13°31’ of Aquarius, Saturn’s retrograde will last just under five months. ... While retrogrades are notoriously no fun, each sign will experience them differently, and some may even benefit! Aquarius, Capricorn, Cancer, and Gemini have the potential to come out of this on a positive note, but only if they’re willing to accept responsibilities and embrace change. Aries, Virgo, Libra, and Sagittarius will all have their fair share of challenges, so you’ll want to pace yourself if you fall under this category. Lastly, Taurus, Leo, Pisces and Scorpio will feel this energy with the most intensity[/b], so remember to be kind and loving toward yourself." ... http://www.astrology.com/article/saturn-retrograde-2021/

At this stage ... my guess is that the current Saturn transit square forum natal Sun is questioning/challenging the need (in a family/forum with no problems) for rules which require members to cease interacting with each other, rather than allowing them the freedom to engage in a heated exchange of views.

However ... the transit may in fact turn out to be also questioning other forum issues ... such as the price members are required to pay in order to be accepted as one of the "family". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd10x8LiuBc

posted April 10, 2021 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The “forum owner” has a name. Let’s keep it real. If your hypothesis were correct, there would have been numerous incidences of disagreements instead of just a single incident where you were involved in a thread where you kept pushing your unsolicited advice on AG. AG reacted harshly in that thread and then apologized for his behavior. You knew he didn’t want or need your advice, so you should have stayed away from him, yet you persisted in another thread, and AG took it badly thinking that you were going after him after the death of his mother. So, the evidence does not support your hypothesis. This conflict was caused by your own passive aggressive behavior, because you were quite aware that AG didn’t want your advice. He was wrong—perhaps doubly so, since he is a Mod—but you contributed to it, as well. So, LL does not have a problem with its chart. The problem is and always has been over miscommunications and personality issues. Both are understandable in a forum environment. If someone doesn’t like you or you don’t like them, stay away from that person’s threads. Simple solution, yes? Let’s not blame Astrology for our bad behavior. Astrology should be wielded as a tool, not a weapon. Those last two sentences are general statements and not intended to single anyone out. And this thread is an example of two things: 1. A passive aggressive shot at me. 2. Giving me your astrological advice, which I do not want or need. That being said, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, astrologically or otherwise, but you can’t blame Astrology for a conflict which you yourself participated in and even initiated and agitated and then come here with a solution for said problem. The solution is to stay away from people you don’t get along with. LL is a big place. AG is here very little compared to you. Unless you get a sick, perverse joy out of evoking a negative response in people, just stay away from him. I fail to see the difficulty in that.

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posted April 12, 2021 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/237343.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/024142.html

... Two other threads that I might want to refer to later.

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posted April 12, 2021 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Where have I accused anyone of bullying? And what in your chart makes you enjoy conflict and arguing so much? You are mischaracterizing my alleged behavior based upon your biased and faulty perception and then using Astrology to justify your judgments.

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I shall comment further in due course, Randall. ... For now though, just accept that my motive in opening this thread might not be what you perceive it to be.

However, that may not become fully apparent until some 11 months from now ... when the current transits of Saturn and Uranus are over.

In the meantime, it is indeed unfortunate that you and I appear to be the physical embodiments of the forum issue being highlighted by the planets. ... You as perceiving bullying where none exists vs me as perceiving the (not asked for) confronting of issues as being helpful rather than bullying.

And, I have no idea whether either of those views will ultimately "win the hearts and minds" of forum members - or if some kind of compromise viewpoint will emerge.

posted April 13, 2021 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Once again, where did I accuse anyone of bullying? Or is that a baseless claim with no evidence? The rules that you agreed to when you signed up are not going to change. That has nothing to do with Astrology. Debate here is welcomed. Heated arguments are not. Contentious threads will be closed. Emotional maturity involves the ability to let go and move on. Your inability to do so might call for a bit of self-reflection. This is an anonymous internet forum. You shouldn’t take what people think of you here so seriously. I actually have no preconceived ideas of your purpose for this thread. I really haven’t given it any thought.

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Once again, please have the emotional maturity to move on from your prejudice/knee-jerk defensiveness - and accept that my motive in opening this thread may not be what you have non-mindfully concluded it to be.

And I am fully aware of the fact that that you do not give much thought to things ... as you may recall from my questioning the extent to which you mindfully reflect upon the Fox News and Epoch Times articles which you link to on the Global Unity 2 board. ... [In fact, that is one reason WHY I believe it will be healthy for members to question the validity of the current rules of the LL Forum.]

So ... now that I have your blessing to freely express my views on this issue/thread ... I shall continue with my attempt to do that.

Thank you for your comments on this thread so far ... and I look forward to receiving further comments from you here, as the thread unfolds over the next 11 months.

posted April 13, 2021 02:42 AM            

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Once again, where did I accuse anyone of bullying? Or is that a baseless claim with no evidence?

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Here is a comment made by you on my "Know Two Are Alike" thread, referring to "feminists" bullying/ganging-up-on AG in an interaction which apparently took place some years before I joined the LL Forum :-

posted April 13, 2021 02:50 AM            

I'm not saying anything else right now.

posted April 13, 2021 02:59 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Ohhhh, I didn't see that comment before. The one thread had nothing to do with AG, that was someone else, and they didn't leave because they were hardcore feminists. They weren't bullying anyone, either. If it's the one I'm thinking of. There is also no "clique". It's called people standing up for each other.

I'm not saying anything else right now.

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posted April 13, 2021 03:17 AM            

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Emotional maturity involves the ability to let go and move on. Your inability to do so might call for a bit of self-reflection. This is an anonymous internet forum. You shouldn’t take what people think of you here so seriously.

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I actually have no preconceived ideas of your purpose for this thread. I really haven’t given it any thought.

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