posted July 15, 2021 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
could be the difference between virgo and sag there because virgo while mutable i think largely through a level of anxiety and adaptability does need some kind of grounding and that has to be obtained through external means (routines, relationships, other people etc) so i find that steadiness in another human very grounding and comfortable but it has to come through in a way that meshes well with me and that seems to be more through taurus/leo

i can understand feeling suffocated by fixed energy because i can feel that way with it when it comes from scorpio places and aquarius fixed energy i just don't find engaging because there's always this large level of detachment that makes it so i can never really feel invested in anything with them

so i'm very particular with it

i like things to be open ended but i understand they can't be for **** to be functional, and i find sags tend to be extremely selfish in that regard while having endless internal justifications for it and generally making it the other person's problem

i get that people can change their minds and whatnot and that's fine, it's when it becomes a self centered habit that i feel it's an issue and i notice with a lot of sags that really ends up being the case

it's alright here and there because everyone has moments where they just can't be 100% or stick to things that's fine, but when it's every time and it's always about them it's a real issue

i can get anxiety with things being rigid and whatnot but i'll also suck that up and do **** if i promised it, and if i feel like i might not be able to deliver the first thing i'll tell someone is i can't make a promise

promises are a deeply meaningful thing to me and i will go through all kinds of hell to keep a promise i've made, so i never make them lightly

sags often make promises lightly and i find that hard to respect

i don't need promises from another person i'm good with maybes and grey areas, but if you make a promise i expect you to deliver and if you don't on more than one occasion then i'm going to detach and stop caring 🤷‍♀️

someone can say something like "let's try to meet up friday we'll see about it then" and i'm good with that because it'll happen or it won't no pressure that's perfectly fine and with no set plans for what we'll do on friday either is equally good but when someone makes it into a thing and puts all this weight on it and then is flaky it's kind of like "alright **** you then"

you can't want open ends and then make promises **** doesnt work like that, good that you figured that out

i don't feel like someone holding you to promises or standards is bad btw, i see those as good things and accountability is valuable to me

what i dislike is when i feel like someone wants to consume me entirely (scorpio energy) without regard to my autonomy, leos will simultaneously respect that you are your own person while telling you that you failed them and i appreciate that

scorpios will silently judge all your sins "against them" while trying harder and harder to devour you

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Fair enough 👌🏾

I just watched an episode of 90 Day Fiancee with Angela(from Florida) and Michael (Nigerian).

Once again Sag female goes for a water sign. And this time it's mutable Pisces.

I thought Angela was Aries Moon. She is actually Sag Sun/ Moon in Gem or Cancer ( depending on the time) conj Jup. BIG emotions. And not to mention epic episodes. She is very fiery. Just too much.🙆🏿‍♂️

posted July 15, 2021 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Fair enough 👌🏾

I just watched an episode of 90 Day Fiancee with Angela(from Florida) and Michael (Nigerian).

Once again Sag female goes for a water sign. And this time it's mutable Pisces.

I thought Angela was Aries Moon. She is actually Sag Sun/ Moon in Gem or Cancer ( depending on the time) conj Jup. BIG emotions. And not to mention epic episodes. She is very fiery. Just too much.🙆🏿‍♂️

Michael is Pisces Sun with Cancer Moon. But don't feel sorry for him, he likes his lovers HOT HOT HOT. His Venus is conj Jupiter in Aries(like Angela). He is very drawn to partners with a feisty personality. Juno is in Aries too and widely conj his Ven squaring his Moon.

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posted July 15, 2021 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I saw it. 🤪 I partly cannot believe these people for real.
I think his Pisces Cancer is attracted to her as to controlling narcissistic mother what makes him feel safe by taking care of everything .

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Lol. As a Sag/ Cancer Moon myself with South node in Sag (just like Angela) I was cringing throughout. I even questioned whether or not her tantrums were legitimate or scripted? He tolerates A LOT.

But I see that he is now used to her screaming and shouting. He doesn't back down anymore. So I think she might have "trained him" to know how to respond to her? I read that she has started threatening divorce already 😶

When he tries calming her. She erupts. But when he acts stubborn, she gets more subdued.

When Cancer Moon finds a working formula to someone or have learned to read someone,they cling to that "familiarity". And may even (at worst) learn to manipulate that person towards their ends.

Most people think that Sag Angela is the "pants". It certainly appears that way with fire 🔥. But over time,that starts to not be the case.

Angela has little idea of the secret power that Pisces has - the ability to pull strings behind the scenes in such a covert way,that they are never found out or blamed for the outcomes.

She says that he pushes her buttons offscreen and that nobody "sees" that and assumes that she is the batsh** crazy one. I believe her tbh. I am not entirely sold on the whole "I am the docile, even tempered, lovely guy" that he is selling. There is more going with Pisces.There always is with water Sun signs.

Admittedly though, this matchup is quite entertaining. I don't know whether it's because Sag/Pisces are both Jupiter ruled and therefore the pairing can get very theatrical and "larger than life"? Or else this particular couple has volcanic eruptions synastry wise?

posted July 15, 2021 09:48 PM            

SUN in scorpio often have saggy placements bc sag is their neighbor.

Sun in Pisces often has Aries placements bc Aries is their neighbor.

Sun in Cancer often has Leo placements bc Leo is their neighbor.

Hence Female Saggy sun is probably drawn to the fire placements that some pisces, scorpios and cancer have.

posted July 15, 2021 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Fair enough 👌🏾

I just watched an episode of 90 Day Fiancee with Angela(from Florida) and Michael (Nigerian).

Once again Sag female goes for a water sign. And this time it's mutable Pisces.

I thought Angela was Aries Moon. She is actually Sag Sun/ Moon in Gem or Cancer ( depending on the time) conj Jup. BIG emotions. And not to mention epic episodes. She is very fiery. Just too much.🙆🏿‍♂️

Michael is Pisces Sun with Cancer Moon. But don't feel sorry for him, he likes his lovers HOT HOT HOT. His Venus is conj Jupiter in Aries(like Angela). He is very drawn to partners with a feisty personality. Juno is in Aries too and widely conj his Ven squaring his Moon.

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i never watch anything really so i have no idea what you're talking about 😁 i know of the show but 🤷‍♀️

venus squaring his moon doesnt surprise me, given that information though

what we like in theory and who we actually connect with can be very different with venus-moon hard aspects, i have the opposition right on my ascendant/descendant

aries moon though in my case

i think it's the high likelihood of water or even earth in a sag chart that can make them drawn to water signs like hypatia said

i don't feel for the pisces though in my experience pisces placements can be way more horrible than people ever give them credit for

edit: a pisces friend of mine while never ****** to me once told me how much he enjoyed abusing other people, and aside from him i've come across many other abusive pisces placements (western pisces in particular where it falls into sidereal/vedic aquarius)

posted July 16, 2021 10:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Lol. As a Sag/ Cancer Moon myself with South node in Sag (just like Angela) I was cringing throughout. I even questioned whether or not her tantrums were legitimate or scripted? He tolerates A LOT.

But I see that he is now used to her screaming and shouting. He doesn't back down anymore. So I think she might have "trained him" to know how to respond to her? I read that she has started threatening divorce already 😶

When he tries calming her. She erupts. But when he acts stubborn, she gets more subdued.

When Cancer Moon finds a working formula to someone or have learned to read someone,they cling to that "familiarity". And may even (at worst) learn to manipulate that person towards their ends.

Most people think that Sag Angela is the "pants". It certainly appears that way with fire 🔥. But over time,that starts to not be the case.

Angela has little idea of the secret power that Pisces has - the ability to pull strings behind the scenes in such a covert way,that they are never found out or blamed for the outcomes.

She says that he pushes her buttons offscreen and that nobody "sees" that and assumes that she is the batsh** crazy one. I believe her tbh. I am not entirely sold on the whole "I am the docile, even tempered, lovely guy" that he is selling. There is more going with Pisces.There always is with water Sun signs.

Admittedly though, this matchup is quite entertaining. I don't know whether it's because Sag/Pisces are both Jupiter ruled and therefore the pairing can get very theatrical and "larger than life"? Or else this particular couple has volcanic eruptions synastry wise?

There is a Ven/Jup natal aspect in both. As well as Neptune on both their Juno.BIG LOVE. And these aspects can also signify an interracial, intercultural or long-distance relationship.

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posted July 17, 2021 02:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I hear you. For me , it's the "drained" part. The fact that it has to reach those levels. That is what I mean with the Pisces I know.🙆🏿‍♂️

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posted July 17, 2021 03:42 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sun in water often comes with fire in the chart:

SUN in scorpio often have saggy placements bc sag is their neighbor.

Sun in Pisces often has Aries placements bc Aries is their neighbor.

Sun in Cancer often has Leo placements bc Leo is their neighbor.

Hence Female Saggy sun is probably drawn to the fire placements that some pisces, scorpios and cancer have.

My ex his sun in scorpio trines my moon and sextiles my sun but his Mars in Saggy conjuncts my AC and trines my VENUS and MARS in LEO.

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Yes.

I think my Venus conj Saturn "advertises" me to my prospective dates as someone who is cool, calm and collected. This especially since it's in the 7th house too. But am I really?

posted July 17, 2021 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i never watch anything really so i have no idea what you're talking about 😁 i know of the show but 🤷‍♀️

venus squaring his moon doesnt surprise me, given that information though

what we like in theory and who we actually connect with can be very different with venus-moon hard aspects, i have the opposition right on my ascendant/descendant

aries moon though in my case

i think it's the high likelihood of water or even earth in a sag chart that can make them drawn to water signs like hypatia said

i don't feel for the pisces though in my experience pisces placements can be way more horrible than people ever give them credit for

edit: a pisces friend of mine while never ****** to me once told me how much he enjoyed abusing other people, and aside from him i've come across many other abusive pisces placements (western pisces in particular where it falls into sidereal/vedic aquarius)

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Oh no, the Pisces is showing sociopathic tendencies. That's horrible. But I do understand what you mean.

posted July 17, 2021 03:48 AM            

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Originally posted by GemJams:
Angela might be a Gemini or cancer moon? What makes her so loud and angry? Lol

I agree,the Pisces I’m dealing with is a jerk.Idk why I feel bad for him sometimes and can’t bring myself to stoop to his level.

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posted July 17, 2021 03:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Yes, they’re pretty entertaining together. So maybe, there’s much hard Jupiter in synastry or composite. I think Angela might be not that crazy behind the cameras. Otherwise, he would be scared to make any arrangements with her in the beginning. I saw an episode with her breast reduction, and how he was upset about it (only the size part lol ). Cancer men and boobs are supposed to have important relationships according to many astrology topics. 😊

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Yes I see a lot of astrologers comment on that. I have a cancer moon and although I am gay & not really into breasts. But there is some appreciation of a man's "beefy" chest.

Admittedly though, I do go absolutely crazy for the leg and thigh area. I am a leg and thigh guy. Not so much the chest (by comparison)

In Michael's case I suspect mummy issues.Due also in part to the fact that he's attracted to someone who is considerably older than he is?

Some cancer men can be into women who remind them of their mom. Whilst others can be into women who remind them of the mom they "should" have had.

posted July 17, 2021 03:57 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
My leo friend has that problem as well though. She has nothing in Pisces. She has a Virgo moon though.
And it's before I get drained. If I feel it annoys me I stop doing stuff for others unless it's my disabled mum who really can't do it on her own.

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posted July 17, 2021 05:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Are there any strong Neptune aspects or perhaps planets in the 12th?

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posted July 17, 2021 06:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh no, the Pisces is showing sociopathic tendencies. That's horrible. But I do understand what you mean.

I reckon there are additional factors in the chart that add to that. Not to say that Pisces is an "Angel". But there are people who genuinely enjoy seeing others in pain. It "thrills" them.🤷🏿‍♂️

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i've seen many people with pisces placements (particularly when they shift to aquarius in vedic) who exhibit those behaviors, he was just one example of many

pisces can vary of course, but that seems to be a common expression of the sign, one i've seen so many times i find the pisces "innocence" vibe people often attach to the sign falls flat

posted July 19, 2021 01:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes.

I think my Venus conj Saturn "advertises" me to my prospective dates as someone who is cool, calm and collected. This especially since it's in the 7th house too. But am I really?

I am a lot more "shoot from the hip",goofy and joking Sag Sun on closer inspection. Atleast that's what many of them say i.e one even uttered "I think I am dating a clown" 😂

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Sag sun with aries rising and mars in libra I think would enjoy goofing around a lot

But yes I always forget that your venus in scorpio conjuncts saturn, that will definitely alter venus in scorpio and make your venus more in tune with capricorn.

posted July 19, 2021 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sag sun with aries rising and mars in libra I think would enjoy goofing around a lot

But yes I always forget that your venus in scorpio conjuncts saturn, that will definitely alter venus in scorpio and make your venus more in tune with capricorn.

How do you feel with capricorns romantic wise?

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I have made peace with the fact that I attract them a lot.🙏🏿 Initially I thought it was my Cancer Moon. But now I see it could be the Venus conj to Sat.

It's usually the South node in Capricorn(my current has South Node in Cap square his Sun/Moon in Aries), Moon in Cap(lots of exe's with this position), Asc Cap(my best friend has this).

posted July 19, 2021 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
No. But she has 3 personal planets in the 7th house. Maybe that is the reason? She has Jupiter in Pisces in the 2nd house. So she does have one planet in Pisces. But I'm thinking it's the Virgo moon coupled with the 7th house planets

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I would look to Jupiter in Pisces in the second house. It's part of her value system to help others or to be charitable. And sometimes it can be difficult to draw a line or to detach.

She could give away her time or resources, her assets ,money etc. All in the name of helping others who are less fortunate. As she thinks there is value and worth in being a "giver".

posted July 19, 2021 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i've seen many people with pisces placements (particularly when they shift to aquarius in vedic) who exhibit those behaviors, he was just one example of many

pisces can vary of course, but that seems to be a common expression of the sign, one i've seen so many times i find the pisces "innocence" vibe people often attach to the sign falls flat

i'm sure other things add to the likelihood of them being that way but it's still something i've noticed they're more than capable of

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posted July 19, 2021 03:35 AM            

We just couldn't get it right and it sucks because he really was a good guy. We both hurt each other but if I'm being honest, I always was the one who took it too far. I would be very vindictive and wouldn't let things go.

This relationship took me out of the dating scene for a minute. So Ima give a thumbs down for Leo/Sag couples Lol

posted July 19, 2021 08:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I would look to Jupiter in Pisces in the second house. It's part of her value system to help others or to be charitable. And sometimes it can be difficult to draw a line or to detach.

She could give away her time or resources, her assets ,money etc. All in the name of helping others who are less fortunate. As she thinks there is value and worth in being a "giver".

Is Jup-Pis in aspect to the moon in Vir?

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Hey Aries,

posted July 21, 2021 08:19 AM            

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Originally posted by DeeMonroe:
I'm a Leo male with Mercury/Venus in Leo as well. My last serious relationship or should I say "situationship" was with a Double Sag male who had an Aries Moon and Scorpio Venus. We were on and off for a year

We just couldn't get it right and it sucks because he really was a good guy. We both hurt each other but if I'm being honest, I always was the one who took it too far. I would be very vindictive and wouldn't let things go.

This relationship took me out of the dating scene for a minute. So Ima give a thumbs down for Leo/Sag couples Lol

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It can be a power struggle definitely. Both people can be proud.I think Aries works better with Leo? I see this coupling more often than Sag/Leo (regardless of gender).

I think if Leo & Sag have coupled up together for a long time. And Sag(this important) has adjusted to Leo (coz it'll rarely be the other way around), they can make a formidable matchup. Really. But this is rare.

posted July 21, 2021 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
Hey Aries,

no it isn't. The degrees are too far away. I like your explanation of Jup in the second house though and it does suit her. She is very caring and giving. Not only on a personal level but also for charities, several different causes etc.

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posted July 26, 2021 10:41 PM            

The nonsense said on this thread rarely relates to common astrology. Leo is the sun and the sun attracts. Leos are known for bringing attention to them, naturally.

Looking back at it, I have noticed Leo men get a lot of attention from Sagittarius women but it all comes down to the Leo energy wanting what is PERCEIVED as best. Best being the pretty girl with model looks and that is likely to be a Libra, Taurus, or Pisces (Venus ruled signs since Venus rules beauty). Aries women make up lost ground since Leo men love bold and brave women, traits Sagittarius women lack.