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spacecadet42420
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posted August 31, 2021 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecadet42420     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The United States Pluto Return is not upcoming. It started applying conjunction in january of 2020 and won’t be exact until february of 2022. And will be staying in conjunction for about two years after that. It gets kind of frustrating to see new and rookie astrologers claiming it as upcoming just because the exact conjunction is in 2022. But in history, Pluto Returns have represented the collapse of an empire, and it is pretty apparent the downward spiral of the United States since January of 2020.


I won’t go too far into my “opinion” but if anyone can’t see the obvious power grab that’s going on and the destruction of this already failing country, then they are choosing to be blind. Unfortunately we are also experiencing a neptune opposition so delusion is at a complete all time high. It’s also in the 9th house axis, so people think their beliefs are the “right” ones, on both sides. Then there are outsiders who watch everything burn down. The snowball was already rolling and this administration has created an entire slope making it way worse. I’m sure we will witness it all get significantly worse with vaccine passports and disasters while americans argue about surface level issues. They’re destroying the idea of family, and what it means to be human and distorting reality for millions of americans. I am starting to lose faith.

Either way though, look around, since january 2020 every single situation that’s happened is directly related to pluto.

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posted August 31, 2021 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spacecadet42420:
The United States Pluto Return is not upcoming. It started applying conjunction in january of 2020 and won’t be exact until february of 2022. And will be staying in conjunction for about two years after that. It gets kind of frustrating to see new and rookie astrologers claiming it as upcoming just because the exact conjunction is in 2022. But in history, Pluto Returns have represented the collapse of an empire, and it is pretty apparent the downward spiral of the United States since January of 2020.


I won’t go too far into my “opinion” but if anyone can’t see the obvious power grab that’s going on and the destruction of this already failing country, then they are choosing to be blind. Unfortunately we are also experiencing a neptune opposition so delusion is at a complete all time high. It’s also in the 9th house axis, so people think their beliefs are the “right” ones, on both sides. Then there are outsiders who watch everything burn down. The snowball was already rolling and this administration has created an entire slope making it way worse. I’m sure we will witness it all get significantly worse with vaccine passports and disasters while americans argue about surface level issues. They’re destroying the idea of family, and what it means to be human and distorting reality for millions of americans. I am starting to lose faith.

Either way though, look around, since january 2020 every single situation that’s happened is directly related to pluto.


Great now tell us how much you hate Leo men making sweet love to Sagittarius women.

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posted August 31, 2021 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spacecadet42420:
The United States Pluto Return is not upcoming. It started applying conjunction in january of 2020 and won’t be exact until february of 2022. And will be staying in conjunction for about two years after that. It gets kind of frustrating to see new and rookie astrologers claiming it as upcoming just because the exact conjunction is in 2022. But in history, Pluto Returns have represented the collapse of an empire, and it is pretty apparent the downward spiral of the United States since January of 2020.


I won’t go too far into my “opinion” but if anyone can’t see the obvious power grab that’s going on and the destruction of this already failing country, then they are choosing to be blind. Unfortunately we are also experiencing a neptune opposition so delusion is at a complete all time high. It’s also in the 9th house axis, so people think their beliefs are the “right” ones, on both sides. Then there are outsiders who watch everything burn down. The snowball was already rolling and this administration has created an entire slope making it way worse. I’m sure we will witness it all get significantly worse with vaccine passports and disasters while americans argue about surface level issues. They’re destroying the idea of family, and what it means to be human and distorting reality for millions of americans. I am starting to lose faith.

Either way though, look around, since january 2020 every single situation that’s happened is directly related to pluto.


Vaccine mandates are NOTHING new, and numerous vaccinations are required for enrollment into public schools. You really think people should be allowed to spread a deadly pandemic and kill others in the name of "freedom"? The Republicans have been responsible from the start of the pandemic for spreading misinformation (HCQ, Ivermectin, vaccines unsafe), being anti lockdown, and against the solutions to prevent lockdowns while keeping people safe (masks and vaccines), and because Trump's lack of a response to COVID cost him the election, all the red states are passing voter suppression laws, with some states allowing the legislatures to change election results, undermining the will of the voters, and the extreme Republicans are all spreading a lie, saying the election was stolen, while mail-in voting has been around forever.

Actions like that are evil and reek of a party that's scared of the current energies, yet is too stubborn and selfish to change their platform for the better. Power to the people, not the party and the oligarchs. The country has never been this divided since the civil war, and it's notable how Cuomo got (deserved) criticism from the GOP, yet they largely ignore Trump and Matt Gaetz doing the exact same things, which shows that it isn't the action that bothers them, it is the person's party affiliation.

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posted August 31, 2021 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Spacecadet.

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posted August 31, 2021 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kewf, a fact and holistic logic check:

1. Vaccine mandates have NEVER been as extreme as they are becoming. Most of previous ones were focused on public school systems (and to a lesser extent military), and there were various different ways to opt out of same. (Btw, as a side note, when I had my last childhood vaccine slew at age 8, I became paralyzed from the waist down for about a week. When stuff like that happens to you, you tend to look deeper into such things).

2. Allegedly the new vaccines are pretty effective. So why are the vaccinated even concerned with the dastardly non vaccinated when they and those they love are protected? Why not live and let live and let people choose. Most people who wanted a vaccine, have already gotten them. There is no real or good reason to pressure the rest of us who don't want still very experimental vaccines put into our bodies.

3. I am not and have never been part of the right or conservative. But nice trick there trying to make it all about "Trump supporters", super right wing, conservative people, Qanon, etc people. I grew up in the north east and for the first 10 years or so of my adult life, I leaned progressive/liberal/democrat as many in the north east do (and as do most of my family). But I left the con game of political sides a long time ago, realizing that the plutocrats of this world don't care about such ideals, beliefs, and they play and fund both sides as is convenient and necessary for their goals--which is ever more wealth, control, and power because a lot of these aholes seem to be on or near the ASPD spectrum. In fact, there have been some fascinating research studies done by University of California, Berkeley, which indicates that the more that material wealth, status, and power increases for a person, the more that empathy and conscience tends to go down and the more that self entitlement, self centeredness, and callousness towards others goes up. Looking at a long span of human history, this really shouldn't be any surprise, it's a tale as old as time.

And it is these kinds of folks that are calling the shots on both sides of the imaginary, for public consumption only, aisle.

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posted August 31, 2021 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
People only get the rights they assert and own. As soon as people get tired of being told what to do, what they can't do, that they should be afraid, etc, etc, then they will reassert their rights.

When they see through the faux 'compassion' put forth by those who are making a lot of money off of fear, then their minds will change.


I hope so K

Fear sells for sure.

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posted August 31, 2021 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and if you want a real wake up call, this is a great Ted X talk from a left/liberal Harvard Professor discussing primarily a well done, thorough Princeton research study on how well public majority will, voting, etc actually matched up to core policies at the Federal level.

"Shocking", but for decades and decades, the core policies have reflected not the interests and will of the common people and the majority, but that of special interests, which even in the study they refer to as "elites". I mention and quote the latter because it is now apparently "woke" to make fun of people using that term, as Teasel has done here in the past.
http://youtu.be/PJy8vTu66tE

So if for decades and decades, corruption has reigned supreme and the special interests i.e. banking institutions, mega corporations, etc have been the real powers and not elected public officials, you really want me and others to believe that there is nothing fishy going on with any of all this recent stuff, despite the billions and increased powers of control that these special interest groups stand to gain?

Bless your heart sugar dumplin, but you're naive AF.

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posted September 01, 2021 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Kewf, a fact and holistic logic check:

1. Vaccine mandates have NEVER been as extreme as they are becoming. Most of previous ones were focused on public school systems (and to a lesser extent military), and there were various different ways to opt out of same. (Btw, as a side note, when I had my last childhood vaccine slew at age 8, I became paralyzed from the waist down for about a week. When stuff like that happens to you, you tend to look deeper into such things).

2. Allegedly the new vaccines are pretty effective. So why are the vaccinated even concerned with the dastardly non vaccinated when they and those they love are protected? Why not live and let live and let people choose. Most people who wanted a vaccine, have already gotten them. There is no real or good reason to pressure the rest of us who don't want still very experimental vaccines put into our bodies.

3. I am not and have never been part of the right or conservative. But nice trick there trying to make it all about "Trump supporters", super right wing, conservative people, Qanon, etc people. I grew up in the north east and for the first 10 years or so of my adult life, I leaned progressive/liberal/democrat as many in the north east do (and as do most of my family). But I left the con game of political sides a long time ago, realizing that the plutocrats of this world don't care about such ideals, beliefs, and they play and fund both sides as is convenient and necessary for their goals--which is ever more wealth, control, and power because a lot of these aholes seem to be on or near the ASPD spectrum. In fact, there have been some fascinating research studies done by University of California, Berkeley, which indicates that the more that material wealth, status, and power increases for a person, the more that empathy and conscience tends to go down and the more that self entitlement, self centeredness, and callousness towards others goes up. Looking at a long span of human history, this really shouldn't be any surprise, it's a tale as old as time.

And it is these kinds of folks that are calling the shots on both sides of the imaginary, for public consumption only, aisle.


I like your style.

Sorry you went through that at age 8! Fu*kkkkk

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posted September 01, 2021 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Oh, and if you want a real wake up call, this is a great Ted X talk from a left/liberal Harvard Professor discussing primarily a well done, thorough Princeton research study on how well public majority will, voting, etc actually matched up to core policies at the Federal level.

"Shocking", but for decades and decades, the core policies have reflected not the interests and will of the common people and the majority, but that of special interests, which even in the study they refer to as "elites". I mention and quote the latter because it is now apparently "woke" to make fun of people using that term, as Teasel has done here in the past.
http://youtu.be/PJy8vTu66tE

So if for decades and decades, corruption has reigned supreme and the special interests i.e. banking institutions, mega corporations, etc have been the real powers and not elected public officials, you really want me and others to believe that there is nothing fishy going on with any of all this recent stuff, despite the billions and increased powers of control that these special interest groups stand to gain?

Bless your heart sugar dumplin, but you're naive AF.


They have their hands on everything: Hollywood, Big Tech, Mainstream Media, the educational system, big pharma and ofcourse Banking ECT. Hence why I'm a little bit jaded politically speaking and checked out bc we are being played, is kind of like they have control of everything, so I just want to focus on empowering people to live their best lives and this is my way of not playing their game and feeding the collective drama triangle, well I am trying to detach and stay out of it while remaining aware and not feeding the negative cycle.

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posted September 01, 2021 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kewf,

Sacrifice freedom for security and you will lose both.

Yep freedom is easy to lose but very worth fighting for, this value for freedom is what this country (USA) was founded on and it's a super big part of its culture and why so many want to come here so yes it is absolutely worth fighting for and if you don't fight for it we take a dark turn into north korea. Imagine a world were a bunch of people died of COVID-19 yet 98% recovered from it but the USA now is like North Korea. Sacrifice freedom for security and you lose both.

For you sacrificing freedom is a no brainer but for me freedom is the foundation of a healthy society, also trying to control 9 billion people is pathological.

Research shows that people who have caught covid have better immunity to covid and the delta varient compared to people who have been vaccinated. People vaccinated can still catch or spread covid, the claim is that it will prevent hospitalization.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/this-law-begins-the-end-of-abortion-as-weve-known-it

“ Texas Begins the End of Abortion as We Know It”

In Texas, people can now sue anyone who has an abortion, and those who help them to get one. All of this ******* talk about “my body my choice” when it comes to vaccines, and this could mean that Roe gets overturned. How many people told us that the Supreme Court would be fine?? These women don’t have a choice anymore. This law went into effect at midnight central time. Nobody was thinking about the greater good, when they voted in a fascist who said that women should go to prison, if they have an abortion. There are people who think women should be executed, if they have an abortion.

But you can’t go to a handful of restaurants, if you don’t get vaccinated?? Poor you. 🙄

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posted September 01, 2021 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kewf1988:
Vaccine mandates are NOTHING new, and numerous vaccinations are required for enrollment into public schools. You really think people should be allowed to spread a deadly pandemic and kill others in the name of "freedom"? The Republicans have been responsible from the start of the pandemic for spreading misinformation (HCQ, Ivermectin, vaccines unsafe), being anti lockdown, and against the solutions to prevent lockdowns while keeping people safe (masks and vaccines), and because Trump's lack of a response to COVID cost him the election, all the red states are passing voter suppression laws, with some states allowing the legislatures to change election results, undermining the will of the voters, and the extreme Republicans are all spreading a lie, saying the election was stolen, while mail-in voting has been around forever.

Actions like that are evil and reek of a party that's scared of the current energies, yet is too stubborn and selfish to change their platform for the better. Power to the people, not the party and the oligarchs. The country has never been this divided since the civil war, and it's notable how Cuomo got (deserved) criticism from the GOP, yet they largely ignore Trump and Matt Gaetz doing the exact same things, which shows that it isn't the action that bothers them, it is the person's party affiliation.


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posted September 01, 2021 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yo, Randall, you were ****** at me when I made a political post, in an astrological political thread. This thread was made the same day.

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posted September 01, 2021 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hope so K

Fear sells for sure.


Madison cawthorn was threatening violence. How many people here saw the violence outside capitol buildings? People wanted to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, and execute her, and Mike DeWine, amongst others. January 6th was a bigger version of all of those. How exactly are people going to do what kannon described?

Fear DOES sell, and you are all a good example of that.

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posted September 01, 2021 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Oh, and if you want a real wake up call, this is a great Ted X talk from a left/liberal Harvard Professor discussing primarily a well done, thorough Princeton research study on how well public majority will, voting, etc actually matched up to core policies at the Federal level.

"Shocking", but for decades and decades, the core policies have reflected not the interests and will of the common people and the majority, but that of special interests, which even in the study they refer to as "elites". I mention and quote the latter because it is now apparently "woke" to make fun of people using that term, as Teasel has done here in the past.
http://youtu.be/PJy8vTu66tE

So if for decades and decades, corruption has reigned supreme and the special interests i.e. banking institutions, mega corporations, etc have been the real powers and not elected public officials, you really want me and others to believe that there is nothing fishy going on with any of all this recent stuff, despite the billions and increased powers of control that these special interest groups stand to gain?

Bless your heart sugar dumplin, but you're naive AF.


No, they aren’t.

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posted September 01, 2021 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Oh, and if you want a real wake up call, this is a great Ted X talk from a left/liberal Harvard Professor discussing primarily a well done, thorough Princeton research study on how well public majority will, voting, etc actually matched up to core policies at the Federal level.

"Shocking", but for decades and decades, the core policies have reflected not the interests and will of the common people and the majority, but that of special interests, which even in the study they refer to as "elites". I mention and quote the latter because it is now apparently "woke" to make fun of people using that term, as Teasel has done here in the past.
http://youtu.be/PJy8vTu66tE

So if for decades and decades, corruption has reigned supreme and the special interests i.e. banking institutions, mega corporations, etc have been the real powers and not elected public officials, you really want me and others to believe that there is nothing fishy going on with any of all this recent stuff, despite the billions and increased powers of control that these special interest groups stand to gain?

Bless your heart sugar dumplin, but you're naive AF.


Oh sugar plum, I don’t recall making fun of you. I remember people piling on me, and deciding what I did and did not care about. I’ve dealt with all kinds of insults and accusations, assumptions.

Why did you bring me up here?? I haven’t been in this thread since it started. Please don’t do it again. You’re just attacking my character here, and I wouldn’t have seen it if I hadn’t happened to click on it this morning. It’s apparently just as woke to attack people like me. You seem to be doing just fine.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/this-law-begins-the-end-of-abortion-as-weve-known-it

“ Texas Begins the End of Abortion as We Know It”

In Texas, people can now sue anyone who has an abortion, and those who help them to get one. All of this ******* talk about “my body my choice” when it comes to vaccines, and this could mean that Roe gets overturned. How many people told us that the Supreme Court would be fine?? These women don’t have a choice anymore. This law went into effect at midnight central time. Nobody was thinking about the greater good, when they voted in a fascist who said that women should go to prison, if they have an abortion. There are people who think women should be executed, if they have an abortion.

But you can’t go to a handful of restaurants, if you don’t get vaccinated?? Poor you. 🙄


This also puts $10,000 bounties on the heads of anyone who has an abortion, or helps them to get one. That’s how they’re encouraging people to rat out anyone they know, or think, has had an abortion. Although I’m sure there are plenty who would have done it for free. Cash incentives for vaccinations were seen as what again? If you have to be bribed, it isn’t a good thing. But $10,000 in return for turning in a woman who has an abortion? That’s just fine. It’s evil. Yet another evil thing to come from the GQP.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-madison-cawthorn-says-there-will-be-bloodshed-if-us-elections-continue-to-be-rigged/2021/08/30/297a9fa2-09c8-11ec-aea1-42a8138f132a_story .html


Rep. Madison Cawthorn falsely suggests elections are ‘rigged,’ says there will be ‘bloodshed’ if system continues on its path

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http://twitter.com/robspillman/status/1433053858113245186?s=21

Can we organize an airlift for women, translators, scientists, educators, and journalists out of Texas before the Texas Taliban fully takes over?

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As you look more into it, you will see how shady and sketchy a lot of this stuff is. Fauci is being linked and on trial around the origins of the virus. Meanwhile, CDC is overstepping its boundaries and trying to extend the eviction moratorium. A great place to look at where this is all going is the "World Economic Forum" and the book about COVID-19 and The Great Reset. As the saying goes, "you will own nothing and be happy". They are literally laying all of this out for you.

What shocks me and baffles me more than anything else is the reaction of millennials and the younger generations to this. It has been one of nonchalance or just being foot soldiers for mainstream media. It is spoiled white kids parading around as superheroes due to the pandemic.

When we think about why freedoms matter little, its because the younger generation had it very easy. They never had to fight in any world war or any serious conflict so they took it all for granted. Give them their smartphone, their fast food, their Netflix, booze, and drugs and they are set. It was a generation raised on comfort which is why they started making up enemies in the form of creating woke and cancel culture.

Ironically, I think it is the right wing and the Trump supporters who will be the other side on the Pluto return, the one Aquarius is meant to empower as it shows power to the people. The ones who have escaping accountability all along have been the large corporations, far left, and the establishment Democrats.

You saw Cuomo having to resign.

I think what happens with Elder and De Santis will tell of the direction the US heads in.

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http://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/status/1432901820372955140?s=21

BREAKING: An organized group of anti-vaxxers in Georgia have forced a vaccination drive to shut down. They arrived at the site and harassed and name-called public health workers, causing the workers to pack up and leave.

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http://twitter.com/joyannreid/status/1433072617561395200?s=21

Just a reminder that pre-Civil War southerners, with the backing of the U.S. Constitution, placed all women’s individual decisions under the legal purview of men and conferred Black people to the status of property; meaning white men owned their bodies and their reproduction.

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http://twitter.com/avagg/status/1433056460364189697?s=21

Texas today.
Banned homeless camps.
Can carry guns without permits
Voting restrictions
Banned critical race theory.
Oh and also no abortions after 6 weeks. And they can sue people who help you get one.

What a great day for freedom!!!

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http://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1432118812359335942?s=21

“ Jason Lefkowitz, a comedian turned activist, was carrying a list of LA council members’ home addresses, encouraging all at the event to intimidate them against voting for vaccine mandates. “It would nice if it were unanimous our way… Civil war is coming people… get your guns…”

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