posted September 01, 2021 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
As you look more into it, you will see how shady and sketchy a lot of this stuff is. Fauci is being linked and on trial around the origins of the virus. Meanwhile, CDC is overstepping its boundaries and trying to extend the eviction moratorium. A great place to look at where this is all going is the "World Economic Forum" and the book about COVID-19 and The Great Reset. As the saying goes, "you will own nothing and be happy". They are literally laying all of this out for you.

What shocks me and baffles me more than anything else is the reaction of millennials and the younger generations to this. It has been one of nonchalance or just being foot soldiers for mainstream media. It is spoiled white kids parading around as superheroes due to the pandemic.

When we think about why freedoms matter little, its because the younger generation had it very easy. They never had to fight in any world war or any serious conflict so they took it all for granted. Give them their smartphone, their fast food, their Netflix, booze, and drugs and they are set. It was a generation raised on comfort which is why they started making up enemies in the form of creating woke and cancel culture.

Ironically, I think it is the right wing and the Trump supporters who will be the other side on the Pluto return, the one Aquarius is meant to empower as it shows power to the people. The ones who have escaping accountability all along have been the large corporations, far left, and the establishment Democrats.

You saw Cuomo having to resign.

I think what happens with Elder and De Santis will tell of the direction the US heads in.

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Well thanks for starting this thread, is nice to see a lot of people are actually aware of what is truly going on.

posted September 01, 2021 03:31 PM            

“The far right in LA are planning an anti mask event at a ******* breast cancer clinic. Recently, at an anti mask event, they bullied a cancer patient about masks until she was in tears.

Many of these anti-maskers are the same folks from the Wi Spa anti-trans demonstrations.”
http://twitter.com/vps_reports/status/1418320752772743168?s=21

“ Anti-maskers are arriving at the Cedar Sinai breast cancer clinic, they are angry that the clinic requires patients to have masks, they previously bullied a cancer patient into tears.”

This is when they assaulted a cancer patient. There are other protests at which they assaulted people.

This is how people defend their freedom? This and threatening governors who enacted covid restrictions. There were actual plots to kidnap and execute them.

posted September 01, 2021 03:32 PM            

Filmmaker hospitalised after violent attack by anti-vaxxers captured on video

posted September 01, 2021 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Oh sugar plum, I don’t recall making fun of you. I remember people piling on me, and deciding what I did and did not care about. I’ve dealt with all kinds of insults and accusations, assumptions.

Why did you bring me up here?? I haven’t been in this thread since it started. Please don’t do it again. You’re just attacking my character here, and I wouldn’t have seen it if I hadn’t happened to click on it this morning. It’s apparently just as woke to attack people like me. You seem to be doing just fine.

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My comments about being naive AF were not directed to you, but to Kewf.

I can't find the thread yet, but I distinctly remember you referring to people using the term of "elites" as being conspiracy theorists, and that of course is a denigrating term and put down. It's also a way to tr to shut people up and to minimize them and their points/views without actually specifically addressing their points (like you have NOT directly addressed that study yet, though this is the 3rd time that I've brought it up in such context).

After you said that, I pointed out to you specifically that the Princeton people in the study had specifically used the term of "elites" to refer to very wealthy individuals within special interest groups. Let me ask you, is Harvard or Princeton considered strongly right wing, strongly conservative, strongly Republican?

Why did I bring it up and point it out to begin with. Because I am well aware that many people that lean left, like Kewf and yourself, have similar thoughts about people that use such terms. It was a preemptive defense against such baseless prejudice, and it was NOT meant personally. When it comes to you, I was not denigrating you or putting you down, but literally just speaking to past behavior/action/words.

If I can find the original thread, I will link it. The search system here is not very good and so far I cannot find it.

posted September 01, 2021 03:43 PM            

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A man upset over state-ordered coronavirus restrictions was sentenced to just over six years in prison Wednesday for planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a significant break that reflected his quick decision to cooperate and help agents build cases against others.

Ty Garbin admitted his role in the alleged scheme weeks after his arrest last fall. He is among six men charged in federal court but the only one to plead guilty so far. It was a key victory for prosecutors as they try to prove an astonishing plot against the rest.

Garbin apologized to Whitmer, who was not in court, and her family.

I cannot even begin to imagine the amount of stress and fear her family felt because of my actions. And for that I am truly sorry,” the 25-year-old aviation mechanic told the judge.

In his plea agreement, Garbin said the six men trained at his property near Luther, Michigan, constructing a “shoot house” to resemble Whitmer’s vacation home and “assaulting it with firearms.”

The government, noting Garbin’s exceptional cooperation, asked U.S. District Judge Robert Jonker to give him credit for helping investigators reinforce their case against his co-defendants.

The “Constitution is designed to ensure that we work out our fundamental and different views peacefully, not at the point of a gun, not with some other blunt force threat or a kidnapping conspiracy,” the judge said.

Prosecutors recommended a nine-year prison term. But Jonker went shorter, at 6 1/4 years, saying he was convinced that Garbin was an “excellent prospect” to stay out of trouble when released from prison.

The government and Garbin’s lawyers took turns praising his willingness to admit guilt even before investigators revealed all the evidence following his arrest.

Garbin “didn’t hold back,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Nils Kessler said. “He would come out and say, ‘We planned to do this and I was knowingly a part of it.’ He sat for hours answering all of our questions.”

Indeed, defense attorney Gary Springstead told the judge that Garbin “is going to be a star witness” against the others. He later told reporters that Garbin “can tell what was in his mind at the time, which is that this wasn’t some fanciful plot. This was real. And he can tell the government why he believes other people had the same intent that he did and show them where to look.”

“Ty Garbin testified in front of the grand jury in support of the indictment that got him indicted. He is truly, genuinely and sincerely sorry,” said Mark Satawa, another defense lawyer.

When the kidnapping case was filed in October, Whitmer, a Democrat, pinned some blame on then-President Donald Trump, saying his refusal to denounce far-right groups had inspired extremists across the U.S. It added even more heat to the final weeks of a tumultuous election season. Trump had earlier urged supporters to “LIBERATE” Michigan from stay-at-home mandates.

Whitmer wrote a victim impact statement to the judge, saying, “things will never be the same.”

“Threats continue,” she said in June. “I have looked out my windows and seen large groups of heavily armed people within 30 yards of my home. I have seen myself hung in effigy. Days ago at a demonstration there was a sign that called for ‘burning the witch.’”

Last year, Whitmer put major restrictions on personal movement and the economy because of COVID-19, although many limits have since been lifted. The Michigan Capitol was the site of rallies, including ones with gun-toting protesters calling for the governor’s removal.

Some of those accused in the plot, including defendants charged in state court, joined the protests. Prosecutors have said the ringleader initially talked of recruiting 200 men to storm the building, take hostages and “execute tyrants.”

posted September 01, 2021 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Anyway, conspiracy theories have made this country more dangerous. I stand by what I said.

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What does one call it when someone lumps together all beliefs/perceptions that don't match theirs as being "conspiracy theories"?

Is that reasoned, logical, healthy debate, or is that a way to try to shut people up and shut them down?

Why not address specific points, errors, issues, rather than being so vague and generalized? Like that study for example, which says that despite Democrats and Republicans being in power publicly in congress or in presidency, core policies that benefit the special interests do not appreciably change.*

If you don't want people addressing things you've said on a public forum, then probably best to not communicate those things on a public forum. Last I checked, there was no statue of limitations on forums posts, threads, etc.

*Here's a great, recent example of the above: http://youtu.be/Ar5_Om_Ffd0

posted September 01, 2021 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I like your style.

Sorry you went through that at age 8! Fu*kkkkk

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Thank you Hypatia.

Yeah, it was a pretty upsetting/frightening experience at the time. Went to the doctor, and then the next morning when I woke up, I couldn't move my legs for the life of me.

(I'm not actually anti-vaccine. I'm pro smart vaccine and smart, well planned methods/execution of giving them. Both the contents and methods can be improved. For some examples, no toxic preservatives, not giving them at such young ages, not giving too many at once, no live or attenuated forms, etc. The very first vaccines developed/used were pretty effective and had less harmful effects for some very good/sound reasons. But many people seem to like and/or gravitate towards simple black and whites.

Re: m-RNA "vaccines", I would like them to be tested very well for much longer before I come to any conclusion about them, whether being pro or against).

posted September 03, 2021 04:05 AM            

I was checking this out about a month ago so I am glad plutonian made this thread. It's probably a very nice topic to read up on.

Someone stated that the pluto return began January 2020 & yes I agree that we have been feeling the effects but it is going to intensify the closer and closer it gets to being exact. If you can recall the same thing happened with the Jan 2020 pluto/saturn conjunction. We were feeling the effects for several months prior but it wasn't until 2 mos later that corona really took control. So we are looking towards a future point in time when transiting pluto will be at the same degree as natal pluto. That is the actual event.

For the return chart I have the time and date set for 2-21-2022 @ 12:02 am because that's the moment it's same degree minute and second. Ik I'm OCD or something. Place is in Philadelphia.

I think it's kind of important to locate the karma in the US birth chart. Like the NN in Leo 1st house. So that's all about finding an identity. The negative traits of that NN would be selfishness, egocentric, immature, greedy, vain. So it looks like we fulfilled that destiny. We found this country's ID alright. & obviously not a great one. The plutonian energy is going to need to destroy this though.

Saturn is currently conjunct the South Node. If you analyze it like a person's chart, we habitually end up doing SN things initially because it feels comfortable. But with time it becomes more and more detrimental to do so & it's them we really turn focus to our NN. It gets easier and easier to be our NN but we can't forget our foundation either. It is still a part of us, we just need to use it correctly in harmony with NN. I recently made the realization that I had swung entirely towards my NN & have basically become detached from the SN and now there is an over abundance of NN energy but nothing to hold it up. It is actually detrimental & not to mention useless. I am happy that I have found my NN but this is the 1st time I think I have allowed my psyche to admit it misses its SN.

America's NN seem to be in a similar state. We over identify with our NN. Our country was founded on good intentions for the most part I believe. We were oppressed people taking back our freedom. We wanted everyone to be free to speak our minds without fear, be allowed the same opportunities. But even that was corrupted. Settlers come here and the 1st thing they do is kick the native Americans out of their homes and off their land in order to make room for what they wanted to use the land for. Then of course slavery. Our countries core values have a good message but those actions contradicted that message.

The SN that we came from initially is just as corrupt since we were subjected to oppression and had very little rights. So that's the foundation this country has. Our foundation is built on plutonian energy. The pandemic has had 11th/7th house themes since we are experiencing it as a collective. It has really brought out both the best & worst in people. 7th being relationships of all sorts including any open enemies.

The corrupt energy in the SN that caused the pandemic did so with intent to take control over the people. As a result we have also been gathering what all we need to build a better stronger base. If you focus on the messages alone (not how some idiots seem to be applying them) but the heart of all the good that may have come from this. Such as being considerate of others. Focusing on what is essential.

In a sense this has created a feeling of unity as a collective. But simultaneously we have become just as divided. This may be a SN reminder that we still must focus on the NN part in that we are each a unique expression of source belonging to a much larger organism.

We have full water houses. Saturn 4th libra, moon 8th & sun, Mars, Venus, Jupiter 12th. Grand air trine with saturn, moon and mars. Chiron makes it a kite formation in aries 10th.

I wonder what the 12th stellium is supposed to depict. There are 3 benefics in cancer while mars is in gemini. Asteroid dejanira is conjunct mars.

What would the sun represent as far as a country goes? 🤔 Jupiter representing higher learning could represent the information and truths that are being hid from us. The asteroid karma is in between venus and Jupiter conjunct them both.

So our ascendant would essentially represent the image we portray ourselves to be. Ascendant @ 18° cancer is conjunct asteroid lie but less than a degree.

We have our queen asteroid at 26° Taurus 11th, conjuncting fixed star Algol known as the demon star. The return NN is exact. Also forming a trine with pluto.

Return pluto is also conjunct the asteroid lie. Perhaps illustrating the inevitable destruction of all non truths. Maybe the return is in our 7th which is bringing hidden enemies out into the open.

Our return nessus is 13° Pisces which is exactly where it is currently, I thought that was kinda weird.

The asteroid America in our return chart is exact asteroid karma in birthchart. (Which is in 12th)

Transit moon 27° libra exacts natal asteroid America in 4th.

The asteroid Apophis cannot be generated in America's birth chart. Apophis is the demon of chaos and is depicted as a serpent like creature that depicts darkness, natural disasters and death. He was the greatest force of evil according to Egyptian myths. Until recently there was some worry that this asteroid Could collide with earth but now I guess we got another 100 years before he is predicted to hit us.

In the return chart he pops up right at 13° Sagittarius which exacts the great attractor. I have just recently started learning about this cosmic anomaly but I am beginning to realize it's alot more significant than I can imagine currently.

I am gearing up for some next level chaos though. If this is anything like my saturn return on a national scale then best of luck to everyone.

posted September 03, 2021 10:52 AM            

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Pluto Return:
http://imgur.com/a/dc8CaWI

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In the return chart saturn & asteroid white house are exact in aqua & trine natal saturn and natal mars & conjunct natal moon.

A few days prior to the return, trans NN would have conjunct asteroid "wake" on fixed star Algol. Sounds like fun, right?

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More asteroids!
http://imgur.com/a/TNWpI0n

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Asteroid Icarus in return is conjunct pluto. Did we inadvertently fly to close to the sun? It would appear so.

posted September 03, 2021 01:01 PM            

Women have a love-hate relationship with the phrase “I told you so.” We love it because we were right, and we knew we were right. We hate it because we were right — but if we’re saying it, then whatever we were warning about just happened.

There have been myriad women telling us so since cave men first did the dumb things that cave men have been known for forever since. But by far the best early example was Cassandra in Greek mythology, the seer forever cursed to foretell the future and not be believed. (Briefly: Cassandra was a Trojan princess given the gift of prophecy by Apollo in the hope of winning her favors, and when those favors were not forthcoming, he tacked on the curse that she would never be believed. Historians believe this was the origin of the first “Well, actually…” Just kidding. Kind of.)
Cassandra has come to mind so often over the past few years, whenever I thought of all the women who have shouted loudly against injustice, violence, greed and craven stupidity and been ignored and unheard. This whole weird and often wretched decade has often felt like a long exercise in ignoring and dismissing women, well before the Trump administration began — and certainly after.

Did any women, say, raise the alarm over violent rhetoric on social media? The dangers of white supremacy? Why you might want to care about who gets appointed as judges? That black lives matter? That guns are dangerous? That sexual harassment is bad? That Internet harassment is bad? That women are people?
Yes, yes, and, good Goddess, yes. The array of Cassandras has been loud and cacophonous — to those of us who can hear them. And there are so many that it is easy to rattle them off like a laundry list. Just as the times Facebook has said, “Oops, sorry,” for a data violation or someone has accused the president of sexual assault, they start to blend together and overwhelm, so you don’t know where to start. You only know that, wow, were a lot of women right about a lot of bad things.

Like Soraya Chemaly, who campaigned for years against violent misogynistic Facebook groups before finally getting the company to take action in 2013 against pages that glorified violence against women (because of advertiser pressure, of course). Chemaly, who worked with Women, Action and the Media and the Everyday Sexism Project (a Cassandra-ish name if ever there was one), launched the #FBRape campaign focusing on Facebook advertisers and (finally) forced the social media company to admit that its systems had “failed to work as effectively as we would like, particularly around issues of gender-based hate.” (Yes, it was so very hard to identify a group called “Violently Raping Your Friend Just for Laughs” as problematic.) Alas, Facebook’s systems “failed to work as effectively as they would like” for the rest of the decade.

Or like Bree Newsome Bass, who in 2015 famously scaled a flagpole in South Carolina to remove the Confederate flag and hasn’t stopped sounding the alarm about white supremacy since. The flag came down, sure, but defenses of its patriotism and gee-whiz good intentions have been stubbornly trumpeted ever since, even by Nikki Haley — the very governor forced to take it down, pushing for a positive revisionist history. Whoever could have predicted that white supremacy might be a problem? Women did.
Or like Ellen Pao, who brought suit in 2012 against her employer, the Silicon Valley venture capital firm Kleiner, Perkins, Caulfield and Byers, for gender discrimination and retaliation. Another female Kleiner partner, Trae Vassallo, testified to having had a similar experience. (Both women were passed over for promotion in 2011 while three male colleagues ascended.) Still, in 2015, Pao lost her case. She went on to found a nonprofit organization promoting diversity and inclusion in tech, while Vassallo co-authored a landmark study about gender discrimination and harassment in tech. In 2017, numerous male investors were exposed as sexual harassers. In 2019, female founders or founding teams accounted for 2.8 percent of venture capital investment.
Like Anita Sarkeesian, whose Kickstarter in 2012 for her video series “Tropes vs. Women in Video Games” was the target of an organized online harassment campaign that foreshadowed #GamerGate, including “a continuous barrage of rape and death threats, a bomb scare and a game in which players can punch an image of her face.” From there, #GamerGate swelled as the troll armies signed onto their new favorite MMOG — that’s “Massively Multiplayer Online Game” — with the collective goal of harassing women, people of color, trans people and other marginalized groups. When members of those groups complained, they were shushed or both-sides-ed, as happened at the tech, music, film and culture conference SXSW in 2015 when a panel about online harassment was almost canceled because of a campaign of online harassment. No one in the industry could pretend they didn’t know about Sarkeesian — she had been named to the Time 100 six months before — but still, God forbid anyone should actually listen.

Like Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), who correctly predicted Trump’s impeachment in February 2017 (and called for it pretty consistently thereafter) and whose speech in favor on the House floor on Dec. 18 had a distinct air of “did I not TELL YOU that a giant horse full of Greeks was a red flag?” (In other words, she told you so.)
Like Yaël Eisenstat, the former CIA officer who in 2016 worried that homegrown American hatred was the country’s biggest national security threat and in 2019 called out how Facebook profits from misinformation (after Cassandra-ing from inside Facebook as the company’s head of global elections integrity ops in 2018).
Like Ana Maria Archila and Maria Gallagher literally yelling to be heard and acknowledged as they warned then-Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) about putting Brett M. Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court despite accusations that he had committed sexual assault. (Women screaming in protest was a recurring motif in the hearings and after he was confirmed.)

Like literally millions of women who spoke up on hashtags like #WhyIDidntReport, #NotOkay and, of course, #MeToo (a hashtag begun by activist Tarana Burke even before this decade, which is a long time to be shouting into the void, as any Cassandra well knows).
And, yes, like Hillary Clinton, who explicitly warned the world that Donald Trump would be “a puppet” for Vladimir Putin (and also warned that he would stack the Supreme Court, stoke racial animus and bring on the apocalypse). There’s a Twitter account called @HillaryWarnedUs if you need more. Alas, she has been right about a lot.

I shudder to think about who our Cassandras are today. I really hope they are not gun-control advocate Emma González and climate-change activist Greta Thunberg.

What is it about women’s voices that make them so easy to dismiss and ignore? We have a president credibly accused of sexual assault by more than 20 women. There was plenty of reporting on Jeffrey Epstein — driven by his victims, young women, having the bravery to come forward and speak out — and yet men of wealth, influence and power like Joi Ito and John Brockman and, good Lord, Prince Freaking Andrew continued to give him intellectual and social cover until it was impossible for them to even pretend anymore that they didn’t know what he was.
The modern #MeToo movement had not been around for a financial quarter before the backlash about whether it had gone too far began. #MeToo was literally named for women raising their voices and telling their own stories. A rollback meant listening to women even less. Since we had finally started to see actual consequences for actual (alleged) perpetrators — Harvey Weinstein, Charlie Rose, Mark Halperin, Les Moonves — it sure seemed that listening to women might be, you know, useful.
So ask yourself: For whom is it useful when women are ignored? Who benefits from ignoring, say, Masha Gessen and Sarah Kendzior warning about authoritarianism? Who would rather we not read Rebecca Traister’s warning that the patriarchy won’t go quietly? Who dismissed Bridget Todd’s 2013 article about how Reddit was a toxic racist cesspool — and also pooh-poohed complaints that Twitter was a toxic racist cesspool? (Until Amnesty International issued a report about how Twitter was a toxic racist cesspool.) Who prefers not to be reminded by people like HuffPost domestic violence reporter Melissa Jeltsen that so many mass shootings and murder-suicides and partner slayings are committed by white men with easy access to guns? Who wants to dismiss Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams and her crusade against voter disenfranchisement, other than the current Georgia administration and, just last week, a Georgia federal court?

posted September 03, 2021 01:35 PM            

Particularly high up on the list are political affiliation, ethnicity, and gender.

And when we stress "us vs them" in those categories, we are falling right into their plans and desires, to keep us polarized, disunited, and separated so that we remain ineffectual and powerless towards them.

There are many, many men that believe that women should have equal rights. During the Civil rights movement, there were many white people protesting along side their black brothers and sisters for equal rights.

But if we keep making it about us vs them, we play right into the plutocrats' designs for us. United we stand and stand a chance, but divided we are falling and will fall.

The true war, the heart of the war, the war of wars, is a combo class war and the super wealthy ASPD against the rest of us i.e. the peasants, the cattle and chattel (in their eyes). There is no more important battle than that. If we win that, we change EVERYTHING for the better.

But most do not want to face and accept this truth. It is frightening beyond belief for most people. It is easier and more comfortable to focus on lesser battles and less frightening truths. Also, most humans seem to like a certain amount of separatism as most humans do not truly feel and perceive the Oneness of the Whole. And this is why we, our world is being over taken, and the Creative Forces WILL have to intervene, though no one will like that intervention. Not the plutocrats nor us commoners.

posted September 03, 2021 02:26 PM            

In politics, the concept refers to a strategy that breaks up existing power structures, and especially prevents smaller power groups from linking up, causing rivalries and fomenting discord among the people to prevent a rebellion against the elites or the people implementing the strategy. The goal is either to pit the lower classes against themselves to prevent a revolution, or to provide a desired solution to the growing discord that strengthens the power of the elites.

The principle "divide et impera" is cited as a common in politics by Traiano Boccalini in La bilancia politica.

posted September 03, 2021 03:12 PM            

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Add Arizona to the list.

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http://imgur.com/a/Vpj01Bm

AZ is conjunct saturn in the BC. In the return chart it is located @ 24° Taurus conjunct demon star Algol & return NN.

I added Chicago too since I live here & in the return chart it is exact pluto. I put Texas & California too but nothing very significant.

posted September 04, 2021 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Great now tell us how much you hate Leo men making sweet love to Sagittarius women.

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posted September 04, 2021 06:33 PM            

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http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/new s/world/americas/vishal-singh-attack-antivaxxers-b1894105.html%3famp

Filmmaker hospitalised after violent attack by anti-vaxxers captured on video

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I am in no way trying to combat you, but I am wondering if you ever do any unbiased research? All of the links you have posted are "anti-maskers" and "antivaxxers" "bullying people" and so on. And you are also preaching about abortions. So if it is "my body my choice" then why are people being demonized for so much as even questioning the efficacy of the vaccine? In these times, simply asking questions is deemed a federal offense. A lot of "pro vaccine" people are screaming that the unvaccinated should be in prison, not have access to healthcare, not have access to grocery stores. Does it stem from fear? Does it stem from the feeling of moral superiority? And I am not asking these questions directly to YOU, but this group as a whole. And there is a fixation on being divided. Its the right vs the left, the vaxxers vs the unvaccinated.

I do not know how old you are, but have you ever witnessed in your time the ways that the media and the news lie? The situations where doctors and scientists have been wrong or paid to promote a certain thing? Like pregnant women smoking cigarettes is beneficial, asbestos, using heroin in a medical setting, so on and so forth. I just don't see how it is such a baffling thing to see people questioning this vaccine and everything going on in the world right now.

Neptune is opposite Neptune in the United States transit chart for this Pluto Return, in the 9th house axis. This aspect alone represents the pure delusion at hand. And either "side" will claim that it is the other that is wrong and delusional.

So I ask you guys, when you take a step outside of the situation and you look at what is going on as a whole, it is obvious which "side" is violently angry and wishing death on the other side for not doing what they say.

And demonizing literally any other medicine that could possibly help cure or prevent covid, is that not suspicious to anyone? Do they not WANT a cure? They scream that they want this to be over and that they think the unvacccinated should literally be murdered or imprisoned for not participating in the human clinical trials (which are ongoing until 2022/2023 via Pfizer and Moderna websites)

Does that sound like a mentally sound group of people?

I am on neither side. I am not a Trump supporter and I have never actually voted. So to be lumped in with a group because people can't think beyond labels and see people as individuals rather than a collective groupthink circlejerk, then we have this division where neither side will ever hear the other one out. Except I think it is very telling to see which sided reacts in anger, fear, and violence.

The United States is crumbling, and until we stop grouping eachother in to sides and this vs that, we will never see eye to eye and come to the one and only common conclusion and that is that the government is not here to serve or protect us. We are all capitalist slaves to this system and as long as we are all arguing amongst ourselves, we will never be able to fight the bigger picture. And by the time most wake up, it will be too late.

posted September 04, 2021 07:05 PM            

I've been in touch with my nonphysical guidance team in a conscious way, for a long time. This relationship started more consciously when I was 12. At the time (rather just prior), I was REALLY into science and technology, had no spiritual beliefs or even inklings at all. I thought the physical reality was all there was. I wanted to be a geneticist when I grew up.

But then something anomalous started to happen to me at age 12 (and I don't mean puberty, but the activation of different hormones and glands may be indirectly related to it). For a period of time, when I would go to bed at night, and while laying down in bed relaxing, I would get these very odd, out of the blue, and very unfamiliar thought/feeling/knowing packets of information that dealt with concepts that were completely unfamiliar and foreign to my conscious mind at the time.

These dealt with things like, everything is fundamentally interconnected, universal Love was the most important thing in the universe, there was something like a female-male energy and polarity in almost everything (which I later associated with Yin and Yang), etc, and perhaps the most persistent of them all--there were going to be major changes in the world during my lifetime that would affect and change everything in the world for everyone.

Anyways, after I developed conscious interest and started to consciously explore these various topics, I started to get more and more guidance downloads about these coming big changes.

This started almost 30 years ago, and over time, the messages have gotten more specific, more tied together, and with some general timing clues within the last 7 or so years.

Anyways, what I have been shown is that right before things get really, really bad in America and in the world with the psychopathic plutocrats and their power/control grabs, the Sun is going to release some CME's or the like that will be strong enough to take down electrical grids.

This will be the complete collapse of civilization. Course this will be hard on and challenging for everyone, and yet, this is the intervention that we need, because this will greatly weaken their power and influence in the world.

People will be forced back to nature and to real community, and in having to work together for our very survival for awhile, a lot of the stupid barriers and separations we have between each other as a species, will come down, and a more universal, spiritual kind of Love will start to blossom in more and more hearts.

I do not know the exact timing of this culmination. Even if I did, I would not ever say publicly because the plutocrats have eyes and ears everywhere and they track certain people that they know have developed skills, and I wouldn't want to give them a specific heads up.

However, I will say that generally, I would not be surprised if this Solar stuff happens within the next few years. The Sun is already waking up big time from its slumber, and with the magnetic field weakening at an exponential rate, it is truly not a question of if, but only when.

Be of good cheer, the probable future after this collapse is actually quite positive and filled with a lot of collective joy, health, and connection. Yeah, we will have to go through heck to get there, but things will improve quite a bit and faster without the meddling of these plutocrats into every aspect of our lives via government, entertainment, corporate media, etc.

People think anarchy is scary and "chaotic", but humans are quite good at self organizing and most are decent to good hearted, and there will be people like you and myself, who will be going around from little to community to community, talking about important spiritual, ethical, ecological, and social principles, and how we cannot let the past repeat itself.

People's psychic/intuitive abilities will be increasing along with the magnetic field changes, and with being forced to go within more. We will be able to recognize sociopaths and psychopaths for what they are and will not let them into positions of undue power and influence like we've been doing for so long.