posted May 21, 2022 11:40 PM              

Will note an extreme case. My brother has Libra Sun, early Virgo Asc with Virgo Venus and Mars closely conjunct each other and his Asc with ruling Planet (Mercury) on cusp of Libra and Virgo, and Scorpio Moon.

He had a female friend who was absolutely obsessed with him for a long time (besides whatever karmic connections they had/have, my brother is also very good looking and charming/magnetic person). She has Aries Sun, Asc, and Mars, Sag Moon, and Taurus Venus. As you can see, she has quite a dose of Aries in her chart.

Astrologically, the indicators of her obsessive attraction for him, seem to relate to a combo of his strong Libra (Aries's opposite Sign and opposites tend to strongly attract), combined with his Virgo Asc, Venus, and Mars.

See, both in an archetypal sense, and in their particular case, Aries has an 8th House connection/reaction to Virgo. In their Synastry, all that powerful Aries stuff of hers, was in his 8th House.

I'm of/in the camp, that it tends to be the Planet(s) person, that when it comes to especially the 8th and/or 5th Houses, tends to be more attracted to the House/Asc person than the Asc/House person is to them (unless there are other counter balancing factors from the other side).

In other words, people with very strong Virgo tend to be very attractive to people with very strong Aries, but also don't tend to give them the time of day and don't have much interest, unless there are other things going on.

There is a little bit of that between people with very strong Sagittarius and people with very strong Aries, but it is not so intense/OCD, and there is more innate harmony and mutual affection for each other. This is the more 5th House type of attraction.

For people with very strong Virgo on the other hand, their Achilles heel so to speak (in an archetypal sense) is strong Aquarius (especially Asc) but also Pisces their opposite sign some, and then to a lesser extent Taurus (that 5th House type of attraction/pull).

For folks with very strong Leo, it is Capricorn (especially Asc), Aquarius, and to a slightly lesser extent--Aries.

Meanwhile, the Signs that are very attracted to Aries in an archetypal sense, besides as noted Leo in the above, is Scorpio (big time) and Libra.

These however are also somewhat generalizations and you really need to do whole chart comparisons to really see what is going on. Synastry is far more complex than than the above. These are just some general trends and pointers.

You would think in their case, with his strong Libra and his Scorpio Moon, that he would have been more attracted to her. This is where genetics and body reactions have some say, besides whatever karmic background going on. I think he did have some attraction and sometimes they fooled around (though often in a selfish way on his part, which when I found out, I was disappointed in him about. But he was also quite young and less mature then), but physically speaking, she isn't that attractive either facially or body wise--she has a fairly masculine look to her--not only does she have Aries Asc, but her chart ruler, Mars is also in Aries, and her Sun is also in Aries and her Sun is conjunct her Asc. That is A LOT of Yang energy in relation to her Asc, and that was mirrored in her physical looks.

We were involved for a little while, because I looked past her looks and focused more on her Soul and our energetic connection. We were officially girlfriend-boyfriend for a little while. While I definitely cared about her and had some attraction (more soul/energetic than physical overall), I wasn't in love with her. It was a kind of mutual co-dependent relationship with karmic factors. She broke up with me shortly after my Mom died of cancer.

posted May 23, 2022 03:54 PM            

IMO, I think it really is as simple as similar elements and complementary elements being into each other. People call me controversial for it but I genuinely think that people who go for energy that is not compatible to their chart are usually not in the right state of mind or that attractive physically. For example, lots of Leo men will get with Capricorn women and even water sign women but in so many of those instances, affairs are involved (case in point the Terminator and Bill Clinton, both of whom married Scorpios).

Lots of Astrologers claim that 8th house is the magic sex house but I have not seen this. I mean I have been with women who had strong Pisces and Capricorn energy (since I am a manwhore) and the sex was boring. Meanwhile, any fire sign girl and we are going all night (unfortunately true if she is a Sag).

IMO, what I have noticed over and over again is the following:

1. Attractive and confident people get with similar energies. For example, most attractive and cool Pisces women are crazy for Scorpio men and vice versa.

posted May 23, 2022 05:57 PM              

Theoretically, you should be strongly attracted to people with strong Cap. But it doesn't have to be Cap Sun. Actually more likely to be Cap Asc over anything, because that would often put much of your Leo into the 8th.

posted May 23, 2022 11:31 PM            

My chart is heavy Leo energy and for some reason, there is this constant bond I have with Sag women and have had throughout my life. I try to get them out of my life and have gone through great lengths to avoid them but they are always there.

First kiss? Sag woman

Girl I lost my v card to? Sag

First real one night stand? Sag

First girlfriend? Sag

Like I cannot for the life of me explain it.

I cannot keep them out of my life no matter what I do and even when I care less about it, they always find a way in. It's irritating.

posted May 23, 2022 11:34 PM            

Now if you are a Sag rising, then your 9th house is ruled by Leo. Now which sign rules the 9th house? Sag does. So it's like the two naturally rule each other's houses.

posted May 23, 2022 11:46 PM            

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1. Attractive and confident people get with similar energies. For example, most attractive and cool Pisces women are crazy for Scorpio men and vice versa.

2. Ugly and insecure people get with completely different energies since they do not know themselves. For example, the psychotic Sag actresses in Hollywood that rarely get with fire sign men, most of the times they are wasted goods or well past their prime.

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posted May 24, 2022 12:37 AM              

I went through a celebrity list of women allegedly with Cap Rising and picked out the ones that actually looked most Cap to me based on my repeat observation (some of the women on the list looked more Aqua or Sag), as well as a synthesis of various books that talk about this stuff.

Also, could not find a full chart for her, but to me, Morena Baccarin looks like she probably has Capricorn Asc, but with some definite Venus, Moon, and Virgo and the like shading in. (this could be the case with Cap Rising, as Saturn is in Virgo conjunct Virgo Moon, and Taurus Venus could be trine a Cap Asc).

OMG and Good Lawd (!!!), she ticks all my 8th House boxes (Cap [relating to Leo Asc], Gemini [relating to strong Cap], etc) and then some. Also some of my 5th House type boxes with the strong Virgo and Taurus (relating to my strong Cap and own strong Virgo). I really don't think I could get tired of pleasuring that woman if I had the opportunity.

There is a kind of deep knowing, confidence, subtle sexiness, and wry/dry sense of humor in relation to a number of women with Cap Asc.

posted May 24, 2022 12:42 AM            

But I'll say this. Taurus is over my 8H and I'm not super into Taureans. I feel neutral about them. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Also, Virgo Men are quite possibly my least favorite romantically - so their 8H being in Aries has no pull on me. One Aries Woman going nuts over your Virgoan brother doesn't mean this is typical for most Aries Women.

Now I have personally felt deep attraction towards several men when my Moon fell into their 8H - which would be Scorpio & Sag Risings. 🔥🔥 I won't lie about that.

posted May 24, 2022 11:35 PM              

Most of my 8th is Pisces (and beginning of Aries). I do happen to tend to be attracted to people with strong Pisces, but that is because I have SN in Pisces, Mars in Virgo its opposite Sign, the ruler of my 5th and co-ruler of my 8th--Jupiter in Virgo, AND the ruler of my Sun and Mercury and co-ruler of my Desc and Venus--Saturn also in Virgo. Opposite Signs tend to have a strong, more mutual type attraction (vs 8th and/or 5th House stuff).

Also, I have a combo of quite strong Jupiter and Neptune in my chart, so I vibe very well with truly Piscean type people, as I'm quite Piscean like myself (often more than many people I've met with Pisces Sun, Asc, etc). My Scorpio Sun, Cancer and Jupiter Rising friend the other day said that she perceives me most as being like Pisces, and more than my Sun sign Capricorn. She said I'm very dreamy, mystical, fluid, spiritual, very intuitive, and empathic like true Pisces.

posted May 31, 2022 03:05 AM            

I'm of the belief that BOTH sides can feel it. It depends on the two individuals and factors bigger than Astrology - such as physical attraction, maturity levels or even gender.

Have you never been highly attracted to a person whose planets fell into YOUR 5th or 8th House? Especially Venus, Moon or Mars?

posted July 24, 2022 01:21 AM            

1. Super confident outgoing types that are sociable and cool. Imagine all of the good traits of a fire sign and yeah, good looking too. Think captain of the cheerleading squad types or the prototypical beautiful woman who fits the ideal mold.

2. The more awkward ones, usually some history of mental health issues, clout chasing, and very fake. Often weird and just flat out odd. The type that people around them say are strange and seem to have a lot of burned bridges and skeletons in their closets. Some can be good looking but it is often in a very trashy sort of a way.

Here is what I have noticed between the two. The former, 1 in particular, end up with Leo men and compatible elements in general very often. Most of the times you do see them with Leos in long-term partnerships. However the latter, they rarely end up with a compatible element (air and fire), in fact these women are likely to end up with a water sign or an earth sign (particularly Taurus).

In the latter scenario, long-term it seems like both lose. I have seen a case where a Taurus who was dating a deranged Sag woman tried his luck with a confident Aries girl that shot him down at the bar in front of everyone, it was hilarious to see. The guy then gets upset and starts a fight with the Aquarius she was dating, only to find that the Aquarius is a black belt in Brazilian Ju Jitsu and practiced Muay Thai for 5 years. Taurus ends up with a broken face and an arm that is really messed up due to the arm bar he was in.

His trashy Sag girlfriend tried to confront the Aries but the Aquarius boyfriend stepped in telling her what had happened, then she threw shade as the couple laughed at the pathetic thing.

posted July 24, 2022 06:54 AM            

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One other theory I do have as to why the less evolved and lower form Sag women are often trash is this. Their neighboring signs are Scorpio and Capricorn. It is likely that the Sag can have a Scorpio Venus, where Venus itself is in detriment. It is no wonder that compared to Aries and Leo women who don't seem to have as much toxic traits, Sag women are often a mess.

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Just because you have more experience with Sag women doesn’t mean Leos and Aries have less toxic traits than Sags. Trust me they can be toxic too and annoying. Aries can be very competitive, jealous and rude. Leos can be very arrogant, aggressive and have a big ego always thinking they the ‘’Alpha’’ of the group or they have the ‘’best’’ of everything and gets very jealous if they don’t or if they aren’t the center of attention. And what you said about how people are drawn to a whole different energy than their own because they are either f’ed up or ugly is complete bs. I have seen tons of attractive stable people be attracted to people that is completely opposite of themselves astrologically. YOU are HEAVY in fire not only with signs but by houses too i bet you have a strong 1st house too? No wonder you are drawn to fire energy in others you have an overload of it plus sag in your 5th. Just because 7th, 8th and the 5th are the relationship houses doesn’t mean you gonna be attracted to all of those houses. Some are more attracted to their 5th and some are more attracted to their 7th and some are more drawn to 1st house energy.

posted October 14, 2022 02:37 AM            

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Was looking through this thread and awwww man, we lost GalacticCore

I am sad now

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posted October 14, 2022 01:20 PM            

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Was looking through this thread and awwww man, we lost GalacticCore

I am sad now

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Same. It's sad.

posted December 03, 2022 10:34 PM            

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Same. It's sad.

BTW - have you finally gotten away from the Sags for a little while? Lol

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Been meaning to get back to this. No luck getting away from them at all. Could be my Sag NN but I went on dates with a few women from dating apps in these past few months, come to find all of them were Sags. Slept with a few and yup, Sags.

I cannot escape them but I have learn to accept their dark traits and not let them bother me anymore. Not all Sag women are bad, most are not bad at all, but the ones who suck really suck. I will go as far as to say that Sag women that are lowly evolved are the embodiment of female narcissism and snobbery, some borderline demonic.