posted November 17, 2021 06:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
The whole point of an investigation is to find the truth.

It would only be subjective if the person in question allows their personal feelings to cloud their judgement.

But the way to find the truth remains the same - you still need to trace everything to find if it is organic or inorganic.

Which also can mean that the configuration of someone's chart actually doesn't always indicate a person's true star power at all. People can simply be "created" via other means.

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I got what you mean, tbh I find the most sign with organic star power is Leo like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Hulk Hogan is a good example.

posted November 17, 2021 07:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
The whole point of an investigation is to find the truth.

It would only be subjective if the person in question allows their personal feelings to cloud their judgement.

But the way to find the truth remains the same - you still need to trace everything to find if it is organic or inorganic.

Which also can mean that the configuration of someone's chart actually doesn't always indicate a person's true star power at all. People can simply be "created" via other means.

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So an investigation into why Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington have been America’s sweethearts? I still disagree. We don’t need investigations. Not everyone likes Superman, and Christopher Reeve was good-looking, and charming. In my thread about Paul Rudd, there are people who love him, or they’re indifferent.

Of course people can be beloved and magnetic, without having a chart that everyone can agree has star power.

posted November 17, 2021 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
What aspects do you think can give someone extreme star power?

Of course anyone can be a celebrity, or well-known, but these people have star power.

People like Drake, Beyoncé, Michael Jackson and even Donald Trump.

They have obsessive fans, they can break records on the charts or polls, and people generally think they can do no wrong. They are known all over the world.

What in a natal chart do you think can set someone apart from being home-town famous to world famous?

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If this is how we’re judging it, then you can include the former guy (Trump), and Jim Jones. JFK, or Charles Manson.

posted November 17, 2021 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I got what you mean, tbh I find the most sign with organic star power is Leo like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Hulk Hogan is a good example.

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posted November 17, 2021 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
he plays guitar well, can't carry a tune properly though vocally

has had his instagram and **** up before

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posted November 17, 2021 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

Still wanna see him, wanna see, wanna SEEEEEEE !!!

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posted November 17, 2021 06:49 PM            

I need to get some sleep, but I decided to look them up quickly. People I mentioned earlier, who are either extremely popular here - actors, actresses, former politicians - or those who literally had a cult following, people who would do anything for them. Manson wanted to be a star, and sort of got his wish via the murders.

posted November 17, 2021 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I hope this makes sense.

Basically, what makes someone really famous? Plenty of talented people lack star power. Like those on American Idol, they seem to fade away after they win the show. There is just something about certain celebrities that keep people tuning in.

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With trump, a lot of people followed him on social media, despite the fact that they didn't like him, because he was the president, and he was tweeting all the time. People would quote-tweet to dunk on him, or express how outrageous/dangerous something he'd said was. That's one reason I'm amazed that anyone thinks his social media following should have been matched in votes.

I blocked him on all social media, when he was running for president, because I didn't want to get his promoted tweets, or see his quotes all over the place. People gained large followings based on their love or hatred of him. He isn't universally beloved.

Michael Jackson was talented, and I loved him, growing up. I remember Thriller, and Man in the Mirror, loved them both when I was a kid. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jackson,_Michael_(1958)

posted November 17, 2021 07:34 PM            

Queen - Radio Ga Ga (Live Aid 1985) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-0ygW-B_gI

Queen - Live at Live Aid, July 13, 1985 (Full, Uncut Concert) [Best Source Merge] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM9ZG_MtFyk

Freddie Mercury & Brian May - Is This The World We Created? (Live Aid 1985) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riwDo7_GxjM

I loved him, and so did my mum. She couldn't listen to their music after he died, because she would cry.

I'm seeing a lot of Virgo, Capricorn, Saturn. Beyonce is a Virgo, isn't she?

posted November 18, 2021 04:30 AM            

Dangerous but sometimes fame giving star Algol (read until far at the bottom to see the analysed placements) :

http://astrologyking.com/algol-star/

MC in Libra (Libra-energies, for example beauty, fashion, her vibe...visible for everybody),
Neptune (only Neptune) in the 10th :
outerworldly Neptune in public view/her calling (10th house)
trined by the shining (warm, caring, sensitive, motherly Cancer) Sun,

Besides the general *star-placements* she had an interesting yod,
with Jupiter as the goal/focus point
(truth, moral values, openness, generousity, wide, wise, spiritual perspective, humour, happiness),
a Mars-Pluto conjunction (with passion for psychological development fighting for the focus point)
and Mercury (communication, clear logic) at the base-sextile (talents helping to reach the goal).

posted November 18, 2021 05:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I got what you mean, tbh I find the most sign with organic star power is Leo like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Hulk Hogan is a good example.

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Yes agreed!

posted November 18, 2021 06:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
Yes agreed!

Tom Cruise also has extreme star power. I checked his chart and found he has lots of Leo.

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posted November 26, 2021 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
If this is how we’re judging it, then you can include the former guy (Trump), and Jim Jones. JFK, or Charles Manson.

I included JFK (senior or junior), because there is a large crowd of people waiting for them to appear in Dallas, except they’re both dead, so…

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posted November 26, 2021 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Radium:
I have star power. Not boasting!
I have a band, play guitar and was once YouTube famous. I think what you are asking is what gives certain celebrities that "it" factor? Here's my take:

Pluto in 1st (gives a very powerful presence, people feel empowered by you)

Sun/Mars aspects. The tighter degree the better. Mars boosts the Sun's hunger for passion and ambitious drives. These performers have amazing body language and their spirit seems to come through their physical abilities. Kurt Cobain, Tupac and many celebrities have this aspect. Kurt Cobain had it to the exact.

Harmonious Venus aspects shows how well the person relates to their audience and their own projects. Wouldn't necessarily make a great performer but a great artist. They could be very talented but still be a shut in.

Oh yeah and Sun/Jupiter and Venus/Jupiter aspects! Shouldn't have to explain this one.

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Still waiting for your guitar solo...

posted November 28, 2021 10:51 PM            

Beyoncé is: Venus, Pluto, Jupiter dominant.

Drake is: Mercury, Venus, Pluto dominant.

Michael Jackson is: Saturn, Moon, Neptune