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Topic: What in the natal chart gives someone *Star Power*?
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LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 1419 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 28, 2021 08:20 PM
What aspects do you think can give someone extreme star power?Of course anyone can be a celebrity, or well-known, but these people have star power. People like Drake, Beyoncé, Michael Jackson and even Donald Trump. They have obsessive fans, they can break records on the charts or polls, and people generally think they can do no wrong. They are known all over the world. What in a natal chart do you think can set someone apart from being home-town famous to world famous? IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 1419 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 28, 2021 08:21 PM
I hope this makes sense.Basically, what makes someone really famous? Plenty of talented people lack star power. Like those on American Idol, they seem to fade away after they win the show. There is just something about certain celebrities that keep people tuning in. IP: Logged |
plutonianmenace Knowflake Posts: 720 From: Iowa Registered: Feb 2021
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posted October 28, 2021 09:31 PM
Regulus must play a role here.IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 4092 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 29, 2021 07:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by plutonianmenace: Regulus must play a role here.
regulus doesnt necessarily do anything like that my sun is conjunct regulus so is my mother's midheaven IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 29, 2021 08:39 AM
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PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 818 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted October 29, 2021 09:09 AM
My guess would be a strong H1 or H10. With a stellium or north node in these houses. That would indicate someone with a drive to be known or make a name for themselves. Prominent Leo or Sun could also indicate someone who “shines” or likes to be in the spotlight. Venus in positive aspect to the ASC or MC would indicate someone who is easily perceived as charming or attractive. Jupiter in positive aspect to the ASC or MC would probably also indicate someone that gives of a very sociable and outgoing vibe. Also a “jovial” or “larger than life” type of personality. Conjunctions would be the strongest aspects. Neptune rules fantasy, illusions and glamour. Neptune in aspect to ASC/MC or in H1/H10 might indicate someone with a very glamorous image. Harsh natal Neptune to Venus/Mars aspects could also point to “star potential”. Pluto, Black Moon Lilith or asteroid Aphrodite/Adonis in H1 or H10 might indicate “magnetic attraction”. Hard natal Pluto to Venus could also attract attention. Asteroid Apollo has been linked to worship, so having this asteroid in H1 or H10 might indicate someone with a pretty fanatical fanbase.
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HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted October 29, 2021 09:16 AM
Didn't know that about unaspected Sun, does it give a planet possibly more freedom and therefore power, if it's not aspected ?This guy could maybe be famous because of his Pluto conjunct ascendant, 😋 and the stellium there (dangerous but sexy), his Mars/Venus/Moon stellium in Cancer 😍 and some nice aspects, so the unusual combination maybe ? Didn't look at his Europa (to shine), Apollo and Fama (fame) yet.... Any other asteroids Amy, for being a star ? You have been warned, ladies : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r_PwxVm37sA&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D Trailer of the film : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7xFK3GGj4I His chart : http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Reeves,_Keanu Edit : Couldn't read your post before I posted, PlutoWasHere, great info, thank you. I just saw, that his birth time has only a C-rating, but I could imagine it's correct, it's also at 41 minutes, looks exact... IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 7107 From: 𝓗𝓪𝓹𝓹𝓲𝓵𝔂 𝓔𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓯𝓽𝓮𝓻 Registered: Nov 2016
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posted October 29, 2021 03:34 PM
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athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1790 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted October 29, 2021 04:32 PM
Strong 5th house for sure. Moon in the 5th house people: Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Ru Paul, Diego Maradona, Bernard-Henri Levy, Andrea Boccelli, Picasso, Kendrick Lamar, Kristen Stewart to name a few. I know two people with 5th house stelliums and they're also very magnetic (but have no interest in fame) And Libra Midheaven people: Princess Diana, Mother Theresa, Oprah Winfrey, Elton John, Aishwarya Rai, Lenny Kravitz, Goldie Hawn IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 7107 From: 𝓗𝓪𝓹𝓹𝓲𝓵𝔂 𝓔𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓯𝓽𝓮𝓻 Registered: Nov 2016
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posted October 29, 2021 04:53 PM
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athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1790 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted October 29, 2021 04:59 PM
Beautifully said MoonMystic Aqua Moon in a female seems to be quite magnetic to fame interestingly enough (Princess Diana, Marilyn Monroe, Britney Spears, etc)IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: Elysium Registered: Jul 2013
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posted October 29, 2021 08:11 PM
Hi LaceyLeigh there are so many knowledgeable people who know loads on these things like MoonMystic, Plutowas, HeavenlyLove, Athenea, and even mods like Randall but there used to be a gentleman on here named IQ that I believe would make mention of this from time to time. Now I’m not familiar with the cross between Vedic astrology and traditional Astro, but he would speak on Raja yogas and Dhan yogas and their significance in charts. It’s really interesting stuff that deals with house rulers of different houses making aspect to each other and that it’s almost always found in famous or known peoples charts. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 unregistered
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posted October 30, 2021 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: My guess would be a strong H1 or H10. With a stellium or north node in these houses. That would indicate someone with a drive to be known or make a name for themselves. Prominent Leo or Sun could also indicate someone who “shines” or likes to be in the spotlight...
Strong Leo can also correlate to people getting thrust into the spotlight or getting plenty of focus from others, but not necessarily wanting it, especially if the chart contains a lot of more Yin and/or private type energies. And seems more common with Leo Rising (the body and life pattern) who also has Sun and/or Moon in strong connection with energies like Pluto, Capricorn, Scorpio, Pisces, Neptune, Virgo, etc. It doesn't necessarily denote magnetism, charisma or the like, but a fairly common aspect among famous/celebrity type people is Moon conjunct the MC or in the 10th House. Both symbols have a connection with the public, and the Moon is considered a "light" even though she has no light of her own, but shines the light of the Sun. IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 1419 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 30, 2021 10:34 PM
Thank you all for your insight. I always knew Leo/Pluto played a role in stardom but never thought unaspected Sun or 5th house placements could help too. However, it does make sense because both the sun and 5th house rule Leo. Interesting, almost everyone I mentioned has Leo in their charts somewhere. I guess Leo really loves AND gets attention.IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 1419 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 30, 2021 10:46 PM
I also know someone with Regulus conjunct Ascendant and he has a ton of friends and is never without a girlfriend.IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted November 01, 2021 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonMystic: @HeavenlyLove- Saw it so far back. Forgotten that his makeup was heavy enough to change his complexion. Strangly not long after Matrix came out and I had a rather real-ish dream of him. Which I thought was provoked from The Matrix but looking back it was yet to be released so this film had to be why. That same week my dreams were powerful, the next one was a guy I knew wore an Anubis head. Keanu is more mysterious than many see because he's a living screen legend. I believe he's a powerful "good" side that we will need to look to if we are still in the game of fun lm worship. America has been very much that way so long. There are good and ungood one's, he's to me like Obiwan in the mythos of StarWars. He also was a surprise to me because my late guy who has passed and he were the same ethnicity from the same places too. It was odd when I learned that .
I'm sorry for your loss, my husband has left his body as well, but he is still with me, I can perceive him, they are not just gone...
I will write down that I'll come back to this thread, I find the topic very interesting, since the 'stars' seem to have important tasks in service of humanity/earth/the whole...I have to attend to some urgent things now, sorry.... IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted November 01, 2021 01:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReeseC: Hi LaceyLeigh there are so many knowledgeable people who know loads on these things like MoonMystic, Plutowas, HeavenlyLove, Athenea, and even mods like Randall but there used to be a gentleman on here named IQ that I believe would make mention of this from time to time. Now I’m not familiar with the cross between Vedic astrology and traditional Astro, but he would speak on Raja yogas and Dhan yogas and their significance in charts. It’s really interesting stuff that deals with house rulers of different houses making aspect to each other and that it’s almost always found in famous or known peoples charts.
I'm really not that knowlegeable 😁, but would be interested as well about some 'vedic' insight. I read a few things about my vedic chart and they did answer some open questions, showed something I could'nt totally find back in the tropic chart.
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scorpiogirl Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 04, 2021 09:43 PM
Angular Sun/Moon/Neptune for the magnetism and other-worldliness. Saturn on the Midheaven for a long-lasting legacy (Michael Jackson has that). Moon on the Midheaven to tap into the emotions of the public and have the public's love (Helen Mirren).Also noticed that Pluto on the Ascendant can create a very... dedicated fanbase. Beyonce like you said, Justin Bieber, Benedict Cumberbatch. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 170008 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2021 05:54 PM
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Radium Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted November 16, 2021 07:37 PM
I have star power. Not boasting! I have a band, play guitar and was once YouTube famous. I think what you are asking is what gives certain celebrities that "it" factor? Here's my take:Pluto in 1st (gives a very powerful presence, people feel empowered by you) Sun/Mars aspects. The tighter degree the better. Mars boosts the Sun's hunger for passion and ambitious drives. These performers have amazing body language and their spirit seems to come through their physical abilities. Kurt Cobain, Tupac and many celebrities have this aspect. Kurt Cobain had it to the exact. Harmonious Venus aspects shows how well the person relates to their audience and their own projects. Wouldn't necessarily make a great performer but a great artist. They could be very talented but still be a shut in. Oh yeah and Sun/Jupiter and Venus/Jupiter aspects! Shouldn't have to explain this one. IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted November 16, 2021 08:21 PM
Very interesting Radium, how you express yourself exudes self confidence, so I believe you, but to be very sure, you have to proove it and let us see you playing guitar 🎸🎶 first...😁
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Amoranthaniela Knowflake Posts: 325 From: europe Registered: Dec 2020
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posted November 17, 2021 05:39 AM
There are also people who've gotten famous via underhanded means or have used power from other sources, which is what many celebs have done.I don't call this organic star power. To know if someone has real star power you'd have to investigate their whole life and see if where they are was achieved organically or via manipulation, or just "knowing the right people" who can manufacture an image. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 4092 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted November 17, 2021 06:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by HeavenlyLove: Very interesting Radium, how you express yourself exudes self confidence, so I believe you, but to be very sure, you have to proove it and let us see you playing guitar 🎸🎶 first...😁
he plays guitar well, can't carry a tune properly though vocally has had his instagram and **** up before IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 23912 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2021 06:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Amoranthaniela: There are also people who've gotten famous via underhanded means or have used power from other sources, which is what many celebs have done.I don't call this organic star power. To know if someone has real star power you'd have to investigate their whole life and see if where they are was achieved organically or via manipulation, or just "knowing the right people" who can manufacture an image.
That would be subjective on your part, though. If you don’t like someone, you could decide that they don’t really have “it”. IP: Logged |
Amoranthaniela Knowflake Posts: 325 From: europe Registered: Dec 2020
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posted November 17, 2021 06:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: That would be subjective on your part, though. If you don’t like someone, you could decide that they don’t really have “it”.
The whole point of an investigation is to find the truth. It would only be subjective if the person in question allows their personal feelings to cloud their judgement. But the way to find the truth remains the same - you still need to trace everything to find if it is organic or inorganic. Which also can mean that the configuration of someone's chart actually doesn't always indicate a person's true star power at all. People can simply be "created" via other means. IP: Logged |