posted November 11, 2021 06:33 AM            

Would the person be very invested in love, obsessive or overbearing? Caring too much about socializing, beauty etc.? When I say heavily aspected, it means it receives aspects from Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and even Chiron.

posted November 11, 2021 07:42 AM            

something being heavily aspected affects how it functions but it doesn't necessarily make the planet itself extremely strong (could weaken it even) and without dissecting it you can't know what it means

these things aren't all alike, you can't just go "this is aspected 3x and that's aspected 5" then assume function and weight and so on

posted November 11, 2021 09:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i don't understand the point in this question, you have to dissect the individual aspects to understand what it means in the person's chart

something being heavily aspected affects how it functions but it doesn't necessarily make the planet itself extremely strong (could weaken it even) and without dissecting it you can't know what it means

these things aren't all alike, you can't just go "this is aspected 3x and that's aspected 5" then assume function and weight and so on

i have a heavily aspected venus (conjunct ascendant/ketu, opposite moon/rahu/descendant, square mars, trine chiron, sextile mercury, sextile uranus, some minor aspects i forget as well) but it's not going to play out as it would if pluto and saturn are in the mix

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posted November 11, 2021 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
[B]i don't understand the point in this question, you have to dissect the individual aspects to understand what it means in the person's chart

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I know what each and every aspect means by itself, I researched it, but a chart isn't an aspect by aspect separated, but a combination of all in the end. There should be a point in someone's planet being heavily aspected and what it means for said person compared to other planets who are not nearly as aspected. Clearly there's an emphasis on Venus.

This is about bringing all of the aspects into a conclusion. Because a person doesn't just act an aspect by aspect. Anyone can say "Oh Venus - Uranus means that, and Venus - Saturn means that, and Venus - Pluto means that and Venus - Neptune and so on, but what happens when you have all of those (which I mentioned in opening post) in one person's chart, in one mind?

Would a heavy aspected planet make a person focus more on such themes, would they have more knowledge of them, would it be a burden for them etc.? Would it be a mess in a person's mind when it comes to love?

posted November 11, 2021 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by problematique:
I know what each and every aspect means by itself, I researched it, but a chart isn't an aspect by aspect separated, but a combination of all in the end. There should be a point in someone's planet being heavily aspected and what it means for said person compared to other planets who are not nearly as aspected. Clearly there's an emphasis on Venus.

This is about bringing all of the aspects into a conclusion. Because a person doesn't just act an aspect by aspect. Anyone can say "Oh Venus - Uranus means that, and Venus - Saturn means that, and Venus - Pluto means that and Venus - Neptune and so on, but what happens when you have all of those (which I mentioned in opening post) in one person's chart, in one mind?

Would a heavy aspected planet make a person focus more on such themes, would they have more knowledge of them, would it be a burden for them etc.? Would it be a mess in a person's mind when it comes to love?

I want to know how such an emphasis on one planet plays itself in someone's mind all together at the end of the day. Would they be a walking contradiction?

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dissecting something to its individual parts doesnt mean it isnt still part of a whole, can still see it all together

i never said a chart is just aspect by aspect but these details need to be understood to get a clear picture

these questions cant be answered without the individual planets being addressed

a saturnian person with a heavily aspected venus that has saturn in the mix will not function in the ways someone with my heavily aspected venus would

you have to fit the details into the picture there's no blanket you can throw over it to judge these things

house matters too

why would it be a mess if the aspects flowed together well or were friendly planets etc?

you cant separate the parts from the whole but you certainly can see what parts youre looking at to distinguish and understand

a surgeon should be able to recognize what they're cutting out no?

kind of feel like "no **** " on the individual aspects thing but that's like a given a single aspect can have multiple meanings until you see how it fits within the individual

my initial point of it all depends stands

posted November 11, 2021 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
I actually thought while writing, that you might have meant that, but didn't know how much knowledge of astrology you had.
So then it's a different story, the question is not easy to answer, have to think about it...

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Yes, I know it's not easy, because on one hand for example you see Venus-Uranus in their chart and think oh okay, they might run hot and cold and have a unique loving style, somewhat detached, but then on another hand there's a Venus-Pluto, so I guess they could be both detached, but very deep and possessive at the same time. How?

Then there's a Venus-Neptune as well, an idealist in love, a romantic? A detached possessive romantic?

But then there's Saturn aspecting Venus as well, might take love very seriously or be stuck, afraid, wait for their time. Old fashioned.

Then there's a Venus-Mars aspect, a charmer and a sweet talker, but also Venus-Chiron (the only tense aspect and tightest), pain in love, a wound.

Mercury/Venus as well but this one is farthest away, again, a sweet talker. Maybe a player. Venus-Jupiter, too.

It just mixes many energies all together even tho it's mostly "easier" aspects aka conjunctions and sextiles.

I'm not quite sure if this puts a lot of pressure regarding their love life, or gives them very high expectations on who they fall in love with, because it's someone I kinda have a crush on, but don't trust one bit. And I want to learn more about their loving style and when I saw Venus receiving so many aspects, I kinda didn't know how to put it all together.
They could be all of those things listed somehow, I guess, tapping into energy of all when it comes to their love style and socializing.

posted November 12, 2021 06:02 AM            

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Originally posted by problematique:
Yes, I know it's not easy, because on one hand for example you see Venus-Uranus in their chart and think oh okay, they might run hot and cold and have a unique loving style, somewhat detached, but then on another hand there's a Venus-Pluto, so I guess they could be both detached, but very deep and possessive at the same time. How?

Then there's a Venus-Neptune as well, an idealist in love, a romantic? A detached possessive romantic?

But then there's Saturn aspecting Venus as well, might take love very seriously or be stuck, afraid, wait for their time. Old fashioned.

Then there's a Venus-Mars aspect, a charmer and a sweet talker, but also Venus-Chiron (the only tense aspect and tightest), pain in love, a wound.

Mercury/Venus as well but this one is farthest away, again, a sweet talker. Maybe a player. Venus-Jupiter, too.

It just mixes many energies all together even tho it's mostly "easier" aspects aka conjunctions and sextiles.

I'm not quite sure if this puts a lot of pressure regarding their love life, or gives them very high expectations on who they fall in love with, because it's someone I kinda have a crush on, but don't trust one bit. And I want to learn more about their loving style and when I saw Venus receiving so many aspects, I kinda didn't know how to put it all together.
They could be all of those things listed somehow, I guess, tapping into energy of all when it comes to their love style and socializing.

I'm just trying to get a general vibe.

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just post their chart then, conjunctions aren't easy aspects, and youre asking how aspects will play out with certain planets but not giving those

my venus-uranus sextile doesnt at all act like venus conjunct uranus (i wouldn't call myself detached romantically when i genuinely care and ive seen people with the conjunction have a lot of short lived connections over longterm **** ) my venus-mercury sextile won't act like a square (would not call myself a sweet talker btw) etc and so on

if you can't read the chart and fit things just post it to get actual help

posted November 13, 2021 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
just throwing this out there because it's true for me but venus can also be tied to **** like drug use not just relationships

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posted November 13, 2021 11:25 AM            

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Originally posted by problematique:
Yes, I know it's not easy, because on one hand for example you see Venus-Uranus in their chart and think oh okay, they might run hot and cold and have a unique loving style, somewhat detached, but then on another hand there's a Venus-Pluto, so I guess they could be both detached, but very deep and possessive at the same time. How?

Then there's a Venus-Neptune as well, an idealist in love, a romantic? A detached possessive romantic?

But then there's Saturn aspecting Venus as well, might take love very seriously or be stuck, afraid, wait for their time. Old fashioned.

Then there's a Venus-Mars aspect, a charmer and a sweet talker, but also Venus-Chiron (the only tense aspect and tightest), pain in love, a wound.

Mercury/Venus as well but this one is farthest away, again, a sweet talker. Maybe a player. Venus-Jupiter, too.

It just mixes many energies all together even tho it's mostly "easier" aspects aka conjunctions and sextiles.

I'm not quite sure if this puts a lot of pressure regarding their love life, or gives them very high expectations on who they fall in love with, because it's someone I kinda have a crush on, but don't trust one bit. And I want to learn more about their loving style and when I saw Venus receiving so many aspects, I kinda didn't know how to put it all together.
They could be all of those things listed somehow, I guess, tapping into energy of all when it comes to their love style and socializing.

I'm just trying to get a general vibe.

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Hm I have a heavily aspected Venus:

Sun/Merc/Mars/Uranus/Neptune conj Venus
Moon semisextile Venus
Jupiter quintile Venus
Pluto sextile Venus
Chiron sesquisquare Venus

And both moon and saturn are squaring pluto.

- Merc conj venus + libra 3H: yes I am a sweet talker, I know what to say.
- Mars conj venus + sag 5H: I like to think I am a charmer--but I see this more as I have a good balance of masculine+feminine qualities.
- Uranus conj venus: I am not hot/cold, but I need excitement. Once I decide to not like someone anymore, I am gone.
- Neptune conj venus: Not an idealist but my head is always up in the clouds. The scariest thing to me is my partner disappointing me. & I don't believe in unconditional love.
- Pluto sext venus: Yes possessive.
- I don't have saturn directly aspecting but its in my 7h and I take relationships very serious.

posted November 13, 2021 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Even if there are multiple aspects, there usually are a couple of strong themes in a birth chart. What houses and planets are most dominant in the natal chart and how does their Venus connect to those?

You also might want to look at their Venus persona chart and check the ASC and Moon in that chart.

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Yes, look for repeating patterns. They often can be found, and often are focal points or themes of the chart. Gives a more overall, over arching gestalt understanding.

posted November 13, 2021 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
just throwing this out there because it's true for me but venus can also be tied to **** like drug use not just relationships

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Yep, Venus seeks after pleasure and comfort, physically and psychologically/emotionally. And like P.W.H. said, values and self worth are also part of her overall symbolism. When these are imbalanced within, it can lead to imbalances without.

posted November 13, 2021 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by problematique:
Yes, I know it's not easy, because on one hand for example you see Venus-Uranus in their chart and think oh okay, they might run hot and cold and have a unique loving style, somewhat detached, but then on another hand there's a Venus-Pluto, so I guess they could be both detached, but very deep and possessive at the same time. How?

Then there's a Venus-Neptune as well, an idealist in love, a romantic? A detached possessive romantic?

But then there's Saturn aspecting Venus as well, might take love very seriously or be stuck, afraid, wait for their time. Old fashioned.

Then there's a Venus-Mars aspect, a charmer and a sweet talker, but also Venus-Chiron (the only tense aspect and tightest), pain in love, a wound.

Mercury/Venus as well but this one is farthest away, again, a sweet talker. Maybe a player. Venus-Jupiter, too.

It just mixes many energies all together even tho it's mostly "easier" aspects aka conjunctions and sextiles.

I'm not quite sure if this puts a lot of pressure regarding their love life, or gives them very high expectations on who they fall in love with, because it's someone I kinda have a crush on, but don't trust one bit. And I want to learn more about their loving style and when I saw Venus receiving so many aspects, I kinda didn't know how to put it all together.
They could be all of those things listed somehow, I guess, tapping into energy of all when it comes to their love style and socializing.

I'm just trying to get a general vibe.

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You can't assume that all these aspects even relate to how they are, behave, feel, etc. Sometimes it can relate to more outer stuff, like others, how others affect them, life situations, etc.

I'll give an example of contradictory mix ups. I have Libra Moon with ruler of same, in Aquarius in the 7th House in very, very close sextile with Sag Neptune in 5th and trine Libra Pluto in the 3rd, and fairly closely square her ruler, Uranus in Scorpio in the 4th.

Up until I met my current partner, my romantic/love life was a mess of attracting intense, erratic, brief connections which usually left me in disappointment and/or pain. Attracted and was attracted to either toxic and/or significantly unbalanced/unhealed people. It was probably a good thing that these connections were brief--less overall and deeper hurt in most cases, kind of like ripping off a band aid quickly (thanks expanded self level?).

Inwardly, I'm a bit of a romantic idealist with definite co dependent type tendencies (Libra Moon and Venus in 7th, nor does Pisces SN in 7th help). Have been that way since younger. But that's my more human and physical side. My deeper side is more concerned with universal and spiritual love and connection (combo of strong Venus, Aquarius, Neptune, and Uranus all mixing together), and that part of me also makes me have a more detached/non attached side (the classic Aquarius and/or Uranus side of things) at times (rather, though my feelings run deep and can be intense, I can also take a step back from them and look at things from a bigger picture perspective that is less personal and more objective). Both for the deeper knowledge, but also because like most humans, I don't like being hurt, and so I have a tendency to keep others at a distance emotionally, and yet, I hunger/long for deeper connection and intimacy with others (that's the very close Pluto trine to the ruler of the Sign its placed in). And deep, open, raw, honest communication is very important to me (Libra Pluto trines Aqua Venus from the 3rd). Communication is one of my more obsessive areas.

As to where all this comes from, well it doesn't come from, nor is it caused by the astrology. Where it actually comes from, are my Spirit and Soul origins, and seemingly past human lifetimes. Not going to bore everyone with all of that, but suffice it to say, when one knows the various origins and experiences, then all the above astro symbolism makes a lot of sense and fits well. Humans/earth and I have had a complicated relationship--I don't particularly want or like being here (I mean, I enjoy the Earth herself quite a bit-except for the whole predator-predation thing-but less so humans), and yet the call to service, to alleviating suffering, to try to shift this level into a lighter and freer state, was and is a powerful one that I cannot ignore.

I don't know the person in question. Sure, I could use my intuitive abilities to try to tap in, but in my mind that's an inefficient use of time (and especially energy) when you know this person, already have a sense of them, and thus have a leg up in delineating and deciphering what these symbols mean for this person.

Also try to break things down into hierarchy of strength/highlighting. Obviously if you have a close conjunction or opposition--that's going to tend to be more highlighted than a wide sextile or the like. Conversely, an extremely close sextile with a Planet that is very highlighted, can be more noticed at times than a wide conjunction or opposition with a Planet that is more in the background.

Always keep in mind their strongest/most highlighted energies/planets independent of specific aspects. And then keep in mind, how you affect them. Particularly Synastry that involves conjunctions with the Asc or placements in the 1st House, can REALLY amplify that person's energy in them when you're around/interacting with them, and that can really range in effect.

Say the person has Leo Mars in the earlier to middle part of the 12th natally, but their Mars is closely conjunct your Asc. Well, clearly, they are natally a bit unconscious (put mildly) to their Mars to begin with, and for you to go "BAM this is your Mars in your face on roids!" could make them uncomfortable and you could see all kinds of the less enjoyable sides of Mars come out and be directed at you. Like anger, ego, pride, sense of separativeness, etc. Heck, you might end up thinking to yourself, "what a selfish brat!", and yet, they might not be that way at all with most others. And in turn, they could bring out some of that within you as well.

Now if they could work through those shadow issues, or even just simultaneously with all the above, you could also bring out intense lust, passion, desire, impetuous energy, or the like in them. You might frustrate them to no end and they have little to no patience for you, but at the same time, they might want to rip your clothes off you and just take you whenever they feel like. And all heightened by both being in the lusty, passionate, ardent and semi romantic sign of Leo.

posted November 27, 2021 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by angryant2021:
Hm I have a heavily aspected Venus:

Sun/Merc/Mars/Uranus/Neptune conj Venus
Moon semisextile Venus
Jupiter quintile Venus
Pluto sextile Venus
Chiron sesquisquare Venus

And both moon and saturn are squaring pluto.

- Merc conj venus + libra 3H: yes I am a sweet talker, I know what to say.
- Mars conj venus + sag 5H: I like to think I am a charmer--but I see this more as I have a good balance of masculine+feminine qualities.
- Uranus conj venus: I am not hot/cold, but I need excitement. Once I decide to not like someone anymore, I am gone.
- Neptune conj venus: Not an idealist but my head is always up in the clouds. The scariest thing to me is my partner disappointing me. & I don't believe in unconditional love.
- Pluto sext venus: Yes possessive.
- I don't have saturn directly aspecting but its in my 7h and I take relationships very serious.

Do you mean you want to know how to tell whether he's into you or not?

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i know he’s into me. i just dont trust him in general. i mostly wanted to see if his approach towards love could be seen from all this… like is it something he puts a heavy emphasis on. is love the most important for him considering such venus or it has nothing to do with that. does it give an overthinker, a romantic soul? or is love a burden?
basically what it means when a planet receives aspects from practically all other planets. since i dont have such an aspected planet in my chart and have no idea what it represents personally. for example; if it were mercury, i’d assume it gives a restless mind, chaos maybe. since i knew a person with a heavily aspected mercury and his mind was out of this world, all over the place, but scary smart. his mind was his tool, an ace up his sleeve.
he’d overhink everything. that was his core.

i dont care if it’s a sextile or a trine or a conjunction, i can google those out individualy what they mean, but the overall energy interests me. the big picture.

posted November 28, 2021 01:21 PM            

You gave an example with Mercury. I know somebody like that. But the other person has more aspects to her Mercury, but they’re all trine and sextile. She doesn’t overthink much and has much easier mind. So it’s not only quantity of aspects, but quality.