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plutonianmenace
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posted January 05, 2022 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is all so much to take in!

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OrbitalFire
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posted January 05, 2022 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey HeavenlyLove.. so basically what GalacticCoreExplosionV2 and I were joking about was when you said you read it as Saturn rectum.. we came to think of Uranus because of its similar sounding nature to a certain part of the human body.. in other words it's just a butt joke. Rectum.. urANUS..
Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable but Uranus has been known to be the "butt" of these kind of jokes.. but that's all it was.

@plutonianmenace Kannon's response was great and I learnt alot from it. I don't know why I had it in my head that SR could still be felt 10 degrees separating..
Come to think of it Saturn is currently transiting at 12 degrees Aqua I believe (mine is 11 degrees natal) and i honestly feel sooooo much better.
Was feeling a bit depressed for no reason during my SR but I just realised that I don't feel that way anymore..
Hold out its only 3 degrees away!!
(((Would totally love to see the synastry between HeavenlLove and GCE too)))) haha

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 05, 2022 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Belage
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posted January 05, 2022 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It ends after you learn the lesson it's trying to teach you.

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 05, 2022 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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plutonianmenace
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posted January 05, 2022 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The theme I have noticed so far with my Saturn Return, especially with it going exact in February, is the amount of endings and things coming to a close. I lost a very close family member early last year out of the blue but even then, that was not it. I left a city I had fallen in love with due to how COVID and its restrictions affected it to such a great degree.

I also saw my friend group fall apart as well as losing communication with a close friend I used to hang out a lot with. As someone who forever was an Astrology skeptic, this kind of stuff really makes you think. It's like life is telling me to stop being on the same page because another chapter has to be written.

One thing I have realized since December though is that a part of me on the inside is dying. A lot of people here know me as that bitter dude who talks **** about Scorpios and is frustrated about them being hyped up but I just had an epiphany in a way. It's like I cannot even fathom how I used to be such a bitter, angry, and hateful individual for so much of my life. I kept thinking about how situations could have been better if I had not been that bitter angry guy and how I could have made good things out of less than ideal situations.

Now reflecting back on it, I realize it was my ego that got in the way. If it was not massaged, I grew angry and blamed external circumstances rather than living a life where ego meant nothing. It is as if a death of my ego has happened as a result of everything that has gone on and it is a good thing. I feel a new kind of bliss, one where I do not take myself as seriously and my pride takes a backseat to everything. Maybe this is what they meant when they say one is supposed to humble you.

Then again, it doesn't go exact until February so I have little to say until then.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 05, 2022 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
So in my case, I have to wait until Saturn gets to about 21 degrees in Aquarius before I can breathe easy lol.

I recommend breathing easy all the time. And yes, that's when I'd say your Saturn return will be over. Saturn's effect will continue with its square to your IC/MC and opposition to your Asc. So there's no point living on edge expecting the next shoe to drop because of Satur'sn return or any other Saturn transit. Saturn is only a devil so far as we keep it that way in our minds. It can take nothing from us that is truly ours. It can do no damage that we did not already initiate with choices whose consequences were unforseen.

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
The theme I have noticed so far with my Saturn Return, especially with it going exact in February, is the amount of endings and things coming to a close.

This is actually a feature of Saturn's return for some people that we neglect to talk about sometimes. Actually, it is a bit dependent on how it is positioned in your chart and/or what other transits accompany it. You've had

I love it when people have these epiphanies like you have. Trust me, I've had to deal with losses and anger too since Covid happened. A close friend died and there was no memorial service of any kind. And I had a falling out with a group and closest friend within that group. So I can relate to what you've been going through.

But these epiphanies — they're gold. So keep it and keep the door open for more. Keep that Venus influence strong for its maximum benefits.

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plutonianmenace
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posted January 06, 2022 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for your loss Kannon, yours was of a friend and mines was of my father last year. I still sometimes cannot stop myself from thinking of the times he was here and imagining him being here, it's something tough to get over.

I did the work and my Saturn Return officially ends at the end of March itself so April is when technically, I might be a lot more home free than having to deal with Saturn's upheaval. Then again, Uranus and Saturn square each other all year in two fixed signs and I have a lot of fixed energy in my chart so 2022 in general is supposed to suck for me from what they say. Well suck might not be the right word to use but be more difficult for me than I would like for it to be.

I expect more challenges but at this point, its not like I have any choice than to face them. If I can grow, then I see that maybe when Pluto enters Aqua I can be in a good spot.

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vansio
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posted January 12, 2022 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
My detailed observations have led me to use a 5.5° orb on the applying side. The effect of Saturn drops off quicker on the back end (separating side), but I still consider the 5.5° orb to mark the completion in full of Saturn's return (or any other aspect) because aspects are aggregate in their effects, not singular. So even if Saturn's return effect drops way off after it has separated by say 4°, other planetary transit aspects to natal Saturn will add energy to it until it is out of range (5.5°).

Making a note for myself on this thread.

Transit Saturn reaches 5°applying orb to my natal 9H Aquarius Saturn on February 13, 2022

Exacts on: March 31, August 13 (Rx), December 27

Leaves orb of influence (outermost 5°) by February 2023


Saturn rules my 7th (and 8th) Houses… I wonder what kind of commitment is conjuncting. Most likely.. committing to my immigration, establishing firm (independent) roots here, like property, profession, contracts—it’s a lot of hardwork (albeit, meant for me) to apply such a fixed foundation, alone. The past 7 years I’ve been off and on living abroad: uncertainty, insecurity, foreignness, “homelessness” etc

I guess, relatively, I first moved overseas when transit Saturn was last square-aspect interval my 9H Saturn

Some people glorify the idea of living in a foreign country as exciting: I wouldn’t wish this ongoing process (homelessness, not “belonging” to a culture) on anyone. Or in my case, it’s Saturnian-Aquarian. Not to mention, constantly dealing with the government (appointments) for legal residency.

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