posted January 13, 2022 01:44 PM            

- my Chiron isn't as yours but looking at transits from then, maybe I had it that way. As a 10year old I had a new form of surgery. Only adults had underwent. The series was 3x day surgery treatments. After I did this, it paved the way for other children.

posted January 13, 2022 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I think it might be someone capable of shining light on health issues...

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posted January 14, 2022 07:47 AM            

Maybe there is early childhood trauma that awakens the child to the less than idealistic nature of life? Or a series of unfortunate events that wound the individual deeply and they have to work through?

This could be psychological or physical pain. And through that process of healing, one learns to be empathetic or have patience with those who are in pain. Because they become well aware of the suffering and pain in the world.

With aspects of Chiron to the personal planets Sun-Mars, it could indicate where the sense of pain/loss or wound is from. And where profundity in matters of healing is also borne.

When on the Mc axis, it could be the overarching themes of pain/loss/healing/ charity etc. in ones life or ones "life work" because of the elevated status of the MC. This particularly if in tight aspect to it.

Louise Hay is an excellent example of this aspect. She has Chiron in Sco conj Mc. Chiron is opp Moon. She had a turbulent childhood that involved a rape incident at age 5 by a neighbor. Living within a violent and abuse home in her childhood, Pregnancy in her teens and having to give the baby up for adoption etc.

Through these experiences , she learned to tap into healing therapies and wrote a book "You can Heal your life".

Maria Shriver has Chiron conjunct Mc in Aquarius. And true to her Aqua MC she was honored with the Shinnyo-en Foundation's 2009 Pathfinders to Peace Award, which is bestowed annually to a person who exemplifies the ideals of compassion, harmony and peace.

At the presentation ceremony honoring Shriver, the foundation's chief executive said, "Maria Shriver sees the best in other people – their innate goodness – and inspires them to become their own 'Architects of Change'. In a world that glorifies ambition at any cost, Maria instead teaches character. She is a woman of quiet strength who role-models kindness and charity, and has used her celebrity to help create peace in the world."

Nothing spells Aqua Chiron conj Mc more than that imo.

Sometimes the nature of the MC can show up after your death. This especially if your public reputation is overshadowed by substance abuse or boundary issues(as the MC in Pisces of George Michael's chart indicated).

Nevertheless however, your true nature will come through eventually each time. This no matter how long it takes.

Following Michael's death, various charities revealed that Michael had privately supported them for many years. Those charities included Childline (to whom he had donated "millions" ), the Terrence Higgins Trust, and Macmillan Cancer Support.

Michael also donated to individuals: he reportedly called the production team of the quiz show Deal or No Deal after a contestant had revealed that she needed £15,000 to fund IVF treatment and anonymously paid for the treatment.

Michael once tipped a student nurse working as a barmaid £5,000 ($6,121) because she was in debt. On 3 January 2017, another woman came forward and (with the permission of Michael's family) revealed he had anonymously paid for her IVF treatment after seeing her talk about her problems conceiving on an episode of This Morning in 2010. The woman gave birth to a girl in 2012.

After his death, it was also revealed that Michael had been anonymously paying for an annual Christmas tree erected where he lived in Highgate, as well as funding the Christmas lights, for the previous decade.

He was also the largest funder of Highgate's annual Fair in the Square for those ten years, donating anonymously as "a local resident".

This is the nature of Pisces Mc conj Chiron-do all the charity work anonymously/ in secret. How fitting then is it for it all to come out posthumously?

Other honorable mentions are Marilyn Monroe(and we all know her turbulent childhood)-Chiron conjunct Mc in Taurus. She gave very generously to charity.

posted January 14, 2022 07:57 AM            

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posted January 14, 2022 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Other people see your pain like it becomes public

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posted January 14, 2022 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
To dovetail on what most people's input was on here, I would say that this aspect can highlight pain/wound/healing/compassion/ charity as a big part of your life...

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posted January 14, 2022 11:09 AM            

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posted January 14, 2022 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by InTheStars:
Thank you for the awesome explanation! If I could ask you, how do you think this could manifest as a Libra Chiron (℞ and MC in Sag?

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posted January 14, 2022 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is Chiron in aspect to personal planets?

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posted January 15, 2022 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by InTheStars:
It is also opposite my Taurus Sun at 6° and opposite my Taurus Mercury at 7°. Mercury is retrograde for me.

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So i take it that Libra Chiron in your chart is within the later degrees 27-29 Deg?

When Chiron opposes a personal planet,its effect is more impactful. So when on Mercury and Sun, something about your ability to clarify(Sun) your thoughts or articulate urself (Merc) could be affected by Chiron.

Perhaps there could be learning challenges? Articulation challenges or even sibling relationships that are strained? Mercury rules the specified areas. And when conjunct Sun, they tend to form a part of how one identifies oneself(Sun).

In other words, with Mercury in aspect to the Sun,the articulation of thoughts to convey ones personality is important. The "I think and therefore I am" can apply here as reasoning affects self definition and self definition is through reasoning etc.

So the Chiron may suggest a wound there. This could be an innate belief/thought pattern that one is not "smart" enough like their peers and this affects their self definition(Sun).

So they are shy,reserved in sharing their opinion and a lot less talkative than one would assume-given the conjunction to Merc. But there is typically a lot of back/forth "dialogue" happening in one's head.

Maybe they fear being criticized by others if they speak their mind? Or else they attract the type of people who are domineering and have ABSOLUTE opinions about things and critical i.e black/white points of views that are FINAL?

The other manifestation could be that the native goes all out to "prove" their intelligence by trying to "outdo" or "outsmart" those whom are perhaps more "educated" and "qualified".

The native could be pedantic, do grammar policing or take pride in correcting others/derailing their points because they have more information on the subject being discussed that "catches the opponent out".

The result is that the latter native could be someone whom is not good in conversations because they want ONLY their voices and their thoughts to be the ones that are heard.

They can enjoy "winning" or pointing out other's flaws in their reasoning abilities so that they come across more "intelligent". Typically,they also don't like their opinion being challenged.

Yhe thoroughly annoying Ben Shapiro has Sun in Cap with Asc in Tau. That subdued nature of Tau certainly doesn't come through with him imo.

He has Jup in "righteous" Sag. Its conj his Merc and BOTH form an inconjunct aspect to Chiron in Tau. The man has got something to prove i.e."I am smart. I am reasonable. And don't you forget it."

posted January 15, 2022 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
So i take it that Libra Chiron in your chart is within the later degrees 27-29 Deg?
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posted January 16, 2022 02:02 AM            

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Originally posted by InTheStars:
Again, thank you for the fabulous analysis. I definitely fall in the former camp of hesistation of my thoughts. Perhaps mine isn't doubts of my intelligence, but inhibition of expression, creatively mostly. I'm learning to overcome this in my performing, though, and learning to let go, particularly for the selfless reason of using my art to connect with and possibly heal others.

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posted January 16, 2022 01:42 PM            

I see that too in my case, sure many might as well. glad someone was able to come in and give a complete look at this for you InTheStars .