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Summer Madness
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posted October 18, 2022 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summer Madness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
I can see how you feel this way. It reads easily in very obvious ways

I can see why you think the 8th house is the end all be all.

Constantly, looping back to the same place.

You are burning off karma in spades!

As a person who believes in karma and reincarnation,
You obviously know that there is no running from Saturn/karma.

Saturn=karma

You definitely have quite a bit of geometry going on and I think it needs to be addressed.

I’m a Venus/ Pallas anaoretic Aquarius so bear with my perspective. I like to work with patterns.

Sometimes it is quite easy to get stuck or fixated when all you can see is dark.

But in darkness you can find light!

In astrology or spirituality you are almost always missing pieces of the puzzle.

Sometimes you have to look for what’s not there. Instead of focusing too much on what’s smacking you in the face.

So let’s look at the chart:

Since this is your chart…it is your story.

I’m listening to the things you are saying and I can see them

We have your obvious stellum, the sun and south node in the same house. Your asc ruler there too. Chiron sitting in your second. Pluto squaring your asc/desc and widely opposing your moon.

These are very prominent!

But let’s also look at some other points as well that are very interesting.

I know most people do not consider points or axis’s in geometric configurations. I am also aware that people tend to be tight with orbs. And lastly point on point theory gets very fuzzy on expression of energy.

With such a huge emphasis on the 8th we must look much deeper at that area and how the aspects will deposit energy.

As you can see your south node lyes in the house of issue. The north node sitting in your 2nd. They both square your asteroid Lilith and widely square your Jupiter. There is a lot of projection from the moons shadows and points. The fact that the actual moon and Mc sits right at the midpoint of asteroid Lilith and the sn is very interesting. And the fact that ic is opposite it is as well. Collimation of karma for sure since Jupiter squares your nodes.

Now how does this actually feel?

You have Jupiter in your Capricorn 5th house.
Do you work a lot?
I am sure loosing your job is very hard..especially being a Virgo ascendant. You probably are very efficient and you have a lot of your identity wrapped up in you work. Or at least that is what’s being projected on you by your ascendant.

Lilith in cancer 11th house.
Do you feel emotionally isolated from the team,collective, groups of friends?
Cast out?
Have you put everything into work and neglected being social?
Has this affected your romantic pursuits?
Do you find that you are acting out the Aries archetype because you care for others burdens and find that you neglect to spend time venus-ing your 2nd house of what you own?
Chiron is there and it needs you to focus in that direction more often.

Pay attention to your 2nd. Healing and your nn are there.

Let’s look back at that 10th house moon. It’s conjunct your Mc in Taurus.
Once again we are seeing Taurus.
Taurus moon on the Mc is asking for you to nurture emotions in your life’s purpose.

The fact that you have Pluto widely straddling the ic on one side and vesta on the other,Opposite your moon tells me that you may have felt exploited in expressing your nurturing emotions in your home life.
Perhaps you’ve been a target for narcissistic people, energy vampires or had difficulty in your relationships with women. Being used or drawn in by guilt into co dependent cycling. Are you being blocked in your use of feminine energy?
The ic is square Juno which is conjunct the descendant.
Possibly loosing one’s self easily in your relationships.
With Pluto squaring even tighter maybe this happens through jealousy or control issues.

Vesta-eternal flame-sacred sexuality opposite moon-emotions.

Are you not able to express your need for spiritual union emotionally?

This also seems to be an undercurrent in your easy aspects:

asteroid Lilith sextiling your Venus.- feeling isolated from the collective while in romantic relationships.

Saturn/mercury/mars sextiling Venus -mental exhaustion and jaded due to the conflicting push/pull energies of your 8th house matters in relation to your values and romantic relationships.

Vertex/Neptune sextiling Saturn/mercury/mars- I’m going to get here in a minute.

Neptune/vertex trining moon/Mc- odd events easily changing your fate and affecting your emotions and life’s purpose. Fogginess to see the point of carrying out the work.

Your pain deserves to be acknowledged.

You are doing very big shadow work and clearing karma.

You must find a way to bridge the gap of your anti-vertex to the moon. They are both moon orientated after all.

Live with intent and conviction in your Venus traits.

You do have Venus in Taurus after all. So use it.

Let’s go back and take a look at that Neptune/vertex sextiling your Saturn/mercury/mars. - the fog of these life altering events makes it even easier to loose track of your mental focus and it feels as though you take one step forward and two back.

I’m aware that people do not like to include the angles in geometric patterns but it is hard to ignore.

This point and even closer your sextiling of Uranus and sun creating a yod pattern to your ascendant.

Having Aquarius Uranus in the fifth sextiling your sun in Aries 8th house. They may jive but they don’t know how to relate to your ascendant.

The ascendant is the apex of the yod.

Your ego (sun) being independent ( Aries) along with your freedom loving uranus in Aquarius are both in the 5th and 8th (romantic) houses. Forming an apex right at the ascendant.

Tho sextiling energies mesh while the ascendant is left in the dust.
The sextiled planets creates pressure on the ascendant (apex).
A yod is a closed formation.
With yods Energies can feel blocked and a feeling of not being able to move forward or express the energies can be stifling. Especially in areas that pertain to the ascendant.
Yod bearers will feel like they are constantly battling for stability in the outward expression of the apex (ascendant).

They will have trouble expressing the apex (ascendant) until it is activated.

This can happen in transits,progressions and synastry.

At the point of activation, the yod bearer will feel a collimation of all these energy’s hitting the apex all at once. It can be very overwhelming.
It is not uncommon to go through a catharsis mentality.
Anxiety,depression,panic and suicidal thoughts can accompany a period called a dark night of the soul..
Large events can lead a person to emotionally surrender to where they feel it is worthless to try and fight back.

This is the time you will need to try to focus on finally expressing your ascendant. (Apex).
Due to the blocked energy in the past you may feel this is impossible and have fear in trying again.

Pluto is currently transiting your Neptune/vertex and approaching your Uranus in the next few years.

Activating this yod.

Triggers your dark night of the soul.

Pluto is a huge transit for change. It wants to release energy.

It comes with a death and rebirth.

But there’s some Neptune fog.

Neptune on vertex is a spiritual pathway.
With transiting Pluto it’s a catalyst for it.

But Transiting Neptune is activating your Saturn/mercury/mars stellum.

It can make this energy even more of a challenge to find expression.

Even more pressure.

So we go back to the apex.

The release point of a yod sits opposite the apex.

This is your descendant/Juno.
It’s the midpoint between your stellum and vertex/Neptune.
That’s interesting.
Juno/descendant also squares national Pluto.
Pluto-change
We see transiting Saturn conjunct the descendant and Juno.
And transiting pluto conjunct the natal vertex/Neptune .

Transiting Saturn is currently sitting at your descendant axis..maybe just past.

This is the cause of you feeling your at your wits end.

All these heavy outer planets are transiting this yod. Stifling your need to break free from a cycle that has hurt you your entire life.

Your ic trining your Saturn/mercury/mars. Both sextiling your Neptune/ vertex. Making it the midpoint of those points.

The home (ic) is in easy aspect to your Pisces stellum. It’s being transited by Neptune. Their midpoint being Neptune/vertex.
Creating even more confusion on how to move forward. But causing events that are still holding you back.

Easy aspects can cause a trap.
A false security that makes it easy to stay in unhealthy patterns.
Neptune tends to do the same.

Then we have the moon/Mc trine Neptune/vertex.
They both sextile Saturn/mercury/mars and transiting Neptune.
Your stellum and transiting Neptune are hitting the midpoint of your natal Neptune/vertex and your moon/ Mc.

The natal moon and Neptune in aspect can make a person very sensitive. You possibly feel very intuitive,feel things with all your senses and it can make a person feel like they are teetering on the verge of revolution or insanity.
With the midpoint of these combined energies hitting your Saturn/mercury/mars stellum and transiting Neptune I’d imagine it would send your mental radar into sensory overload.
Be careful about numbing your senses.
Mars- highs Saturn- lows … dulling your senses (mercury) or creating a fog (Neptune) to dull one’s emotions (moon).
Yet another comfortable trap.

Then we have natal Sagittarius Pluto (4th) Trining Aries sun (8th). They are sextiling Aquarius Uranus (5th conjunct 6th house cusp). Uranus being the midpoint of Pluto and sun.

Pluto in your home (4th) is making a comfortable aspect to your ego (sun) in the house of its natural rulership (8th).
Perhaps that has stifled change. To much comfort with Pluto. Also the fact that the midpoint (Uranus) too is in the sign of its own rulership in the 5th house (ruled by sun) in easy aspect creating a difficulty in utilizing Pluto and Uranus.

There is an impression that easy aspects are all good but as you can see how they do not create enough friction to stimulate change.
This can make it comfortable to fall back into comfortable patterns.

Now let us look at your moon/Mc (emotional life purpose) and see how it sextiles your natal Saturn/mercury/mars and transiting Neptune in the 8th ( death and rebirth).

Your emotional life’s purpose (10th) is in easy aspect to your stellum, being aspected by Neptune (fog).

It’s hard to see the emotional change that you you need to survive. It’s affecting your ability to move forward(mars), your mental ability (mercury) and your ability to find balance (Saturn).

Where is the rejuvenation of death and rebirth?

It is creating a revolving door of pain but where is the rebirth? Where do you rise from the ashes?

Look at this aspect again.

The sextile of moon and your Saturn/mercury/mars stellium both trine your part of fortune.

It’s a yod.

Yay another finger of god hitting these tender areas.

Triggering a tension for your emotional need for catharsis. And also blocking it!

So the part of fortune is too another calculated point. Most would tell you this wouldn’t be a proper geometric configuration. But I’m going to tell you why you don’t throw it out.

Your part of fortune sits on your far sun/moon midpoint.
The sun/moon midpoints behaving like an axis with a near and far point.

Your near sun/moon midpoint sits right on the relief point to this yod!

Your sun/moon midpoint also squares your vertex axis.

Your vertex axis is being triggered by transiting Pluto.

The sun/ moon midpoint is a balance of your Devine masculine and Devine feminine.

With the s/m midpoint ( enlightenment) squaring the vertex access ( sudden change of fate/ anticipated fateful choices) you come to a cross roads for change. Especially with Pluto transiting right over it!

Look for the activation on your sun/moon midpoint!!!
A square is a hard aspect.
It stresses change.
The midpoint squaring vertex and transiting Pluto seems like a huge catalyst.

With Neptune on the vertex it can bring spiritual enlightenment.

With part of fortune on the far sun/moon midpoint I see reprieve.

It is extremely obvious how restricting your chart is.
I don’t need to remind you how Saturn can influence this.

But what sign rules your vertex/Neptune?
Capricorn
Capricorn=Saturn
And Saturn is not only restriction.
It’s discipline.
After all the pain you’ve experienced you’ve gained discipline.

Here’s a little secret.
I like to call Saturn the kiss of fate.
When one has disciplined oneself and learned Saturns lessons, you will receive your kiss of fate.
Saturn is the keeper of karma.
Saturn does not restrict indefinitely.
Actually , he’s so true to his promise that you can count that once you’ve learned his lessons, he will not Welsh on the karmic agreement.

The fact that vertex is in Capricorn kinda just shows how he gives you a sudden opportunity to do so.

A transit from Pluto is a huge push.

So what is karma..
What is the end...

There are a lot of popular theories going around.

I cannot tell you for sure.

You have:

Major life transits hitting all these problem areas in your chart

They are doubling their influence in larger geometric patterns connected to you natal ones.

Aries point being the end of a cycle.- your stellum sits right there. Gotta love that sabian symbol too.

Read the sabian for your stellum

The sun/moon midpoint being enlightenment- possible end of karma.

Ever hear theories about burning off karma and wonder what that last incarnation would be like?
It’s probably a real tough one.

The concepts of shadow work
How it integrates our polarization of things we put off or refuse to see.
How sun/moon midpoint is an integration of polarized Devine masculine and femininity

What are the theories of the Devine masculine and feminine integrating?

I hope by now you can smell it.

It’s the wet fart of karma yelling at you.

Focus on your self intigration and the other will come.

You can end the cycle if you can integrate.

2nd house of what you own-venus
North node-2nd house- Venus
Chiron-2nd house-Venus
Sun/moon midpoint - venus
9th house Venus in Taurus- Venus
Moon/Mc- life’s purpose- in Taurus- Venus


Don’t fall directly into the twin flame trap either.
You’d completely miss the point of working on yourself.

I hope this helps.


Thanks for your response.

I want to attach an image of my solar return chart for this year to take a glance at it.

https://i.postimg.cc/0jDstNXw/renew.png
https://i.postimg.cc/8PgD7hsB/renew2.png

This year I have my solar arc/progressed sun in the 29 degree of Aries. In my solar arc chart, solar arc Pluto is at 29 degrees Sagittarius squaring my natal 29 degree Mercury 8th house in Pisces. Next year my solar arc ascendant will be in the 29th degree of Virgo, another critical degree year.

Solar return Asteroid Karma in Sagittarius conjunct natal 4th house Pluto.

Solar return Moon in Sagittarius hovering over natal 4th house.

Solar return ascendant in natal 3rd house.

Solar return Pluto conjunct natal Vertex.

Solar return Uranus conjunct natal asteroid "Destin" (Destiny) in 9th house.


It all seems to indicates a drastic change or transformation, yet nothing has taken place. I'm holding onto some hope since there's two more months left in the year.

As you can imagine with that Saturn/Ascendant ruler conjunction and my ascendant ruler being in the anartic degree in the 8th house my life has been full of restrictions, challenges and setbacks. Whatever my purpose is in life, I'm being blocked from actually accomplishing it. I want to move forward in life but cannot due to all of that 8th house/anaretic/saturn/pluto energy.

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posted October 18, 2022 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars Mercury Saturn conjunction could slow down and cause delays. Especially, Pisces is ruled by Neptune and not direct and action strong.

Mars’s energy when combined with Saturn’s discipline can produce something remarkable. So this is not as bad as it is projected to be. If we are willing to make an effort to understand this energy, we will be able to use it in a positive way.

There is one thing that is common between Mars and Saturn and that is “Fear”. Both these planets cause some kind of fear within us and hence they are coined as malefics.

Saturn is calmly pointing out all the reasons why we may fail and how we may fail if we attempt to get out of it. Saturn wants you to be trapped.

Mars can make mistakes, because mars does not like to think. Whereas Saturn does not and will not allow you to make mistakes.
So if we choose to take the positives of both these energies, we can be successful. It is wise to follow Mars’s lead and get out of the trap, but only after careful thinking with the help of Saturn’s wisdom.


quote:
Originally posted by Summer Madness:
Is it weird that nothing is happening in my life? It's like I'm frozen in time.

This year my Progressed/Solar Arc Sun is in the 29th degree and Solar Arc pluto is in the 29th degree squaring my natal 8th house 29 degree Mercury (my ascendant ruler) by 0 degrees. Seems indicative of a big change, yet nothing



I also feel this way sometimes. I need to start engine, pump up energy before something start to move. I often need to initiate an opportunity.

When it started often I went through circles of barely controllable events and got thrown back out of it wondering if there’s actual progress or I’m learning the same lessons again.

I ponder how some people have things easily coming to them. And some need to work hard to get small positive movements. (Good aspect to nodes?)

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posted October 20, 2022 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lamplighter848     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Summer Madness:
Thanks for your response.

I want to attach an image of my solar return chart for this year to take a glance at it.

https://i.postimg.cc/0jDstNXw/renew.png
https://i.postimg.cc/8PgD7hsB/renew2.png

This year I have my solar arc/progressed sun in the 29 degree of Aries. In my solar arc chart, solar arc Pluto is at 29 degrees Sagittarius squaring my natal 29 degree Mercury 8th house in Pisces. Next year my solar arc ascendant will be in the 29th degree of Virgo, another critical degree year.

Solar return Asteroid Karma in Sagittarius conjunct natal 4th house Pluto.

Solar return Moon in Sagittarius hovering over natal 4th house.

Solar return ascendant in natal 3rd house.

Solar return Pluto conjunct natal Vertex.

Solar return Uranus conjunct natal asteroid "Destin" (Destiny) in 9th house.


It all seems to indicates a drastic change or transformation, yet nothing has taken place. I'm holding onto some hope since there's two more months left in the year.

As you can imagine with that Saturn/Ascendant ruler conjunction and my ascendant ruler being in the anartic degree in the 8th house my life has been full of restrictions, challenges and setbacks. Whatever my purpose is in life, I'm being blocked from actually accomplishing it. I want to move forward in life but cannot due to all of that 8th house/anaretic/saturn/pluto energy.


The links don’t work. Try agin.
I’d love to take a look!

You know these heavy transits are slow rollers. I’d look past this year for sure! Pluto’s just coming in.
Saturn makes you wait for the right time don’t forget that.

Check transits to your venus especially.

You should read a thread iq posted.
“ true freedom : the opposite point of Saturn”

I really,really think he makes some extremely valid points to your position right now.

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posted October 20, 2022 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summer Madness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
The links don’t work. Try agin.
I’d love to take a look!

You know these heavy transits are slow rollers. I’d look past this year for sure! Pluto’s just coming in.
Saturn makes you wait for the right time don’t forget that.

Check transits to your venus especially.

You should read a thread iq posted.
“ true freedom : the opposite point of Saturn”

I really,really think he makes some extremely valid points to your position right now.


sorry I have no clue how to upload photos on here.

https://imgur.com/a/Dos8BF5

https://imgur.com/a/35dkNhX

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posted November 10, 2022 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summer Madness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Worst week of my life

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posted November 11, 2022 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the South Node in Aries, request to develop the North Node in Libra, peace, harmony, love, the ruler Venus is in Taurus, in conjunction the Moon in the MC, there is a possibility to find the fulfillment to happiness 💓

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posted February 19, 2023 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summer Madness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 19, 2023 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Summer Madness, I hope you are feeling better.

When you started this thread last year Saturn was square your natal Venus, and at 15S52 declination it was also contra-parallel your natal Moon (+/-16N20) — and it had been there for a while. A double-shot ofSaturn transits in which things are not as bad as they feel.

The purpose (of Saturn opposite/contra-parallel natal Moon) is to rein in your emotional involvements, conserve emotional energy, and come to a clearer understanding of your current needs. It can often accompany a distance or cooling off of the relationship with mother and/or women generally. It can feel isolating and lonely. Those who have the lowest self-esteem tend to have the worst time with this type of double hit to natal Venus & Moon. Saturn feels stern, demanding, negative compared to the sensitive, needful, feeling Lunar nature and the affectionate nature of Venus. The key is to prioritize what it takes to feel good, get your needs met, and tell the negative internal voices to shut up.

During those types of transits Amethyst on the body can be helpful (or Blue Sapphire or Blue Spinel) to neutralize the negative side of Saturn and raise your spirits and gain spiritual perspective. Another approach is to boost the natal planet (Venus = White Danburite/Sapphire/Topaz; Moon = Moonstone, Pearl) until the Saturn transit(s) is over.

While there may be natal factors we could point to that have themes of restriction or difficulties, the biggest tendency indicated (Mercury conjunct Saturn in Pisces) is the tendency for a negative outlook by focusing on the negative (Saturn-Mercury) and emphasizing delays (Saturn-Mars). With these Saturn aspects the most important thing to keep in mind is that things are never as bad as they look.

More importantly, this too shall pass. The culmination of frustrations and difficult experiences when you posted this thread/chart last year coincided with some challenging transits that I'll describe for you ...

1) Pluto conjunct natal Neptune.
This transit marks a period in which your ideals, beliefs, and worldview must change. Not allowing that means certain disappointment. This transit is very important and can have long-lasting effects. It depends totally on how you use it to set new ideals, obtain fresh perspectives, and gain insights into living creatively. I wrote an article about it here: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/plutos-transit-conjunct-parallel-natal-neptune/

2) Neptune conjunct natal Saturn-Mercury-Mars.
This is one of those hard Neptune to Saturn transits in which it is very important to remember that things are not as bad as they appear (or feel). The Neptune process here is to dissolve old life structures, inhibitions, or fears (Saturn) that are holding you back. They may have been appropriate in the past, but aren't anymore. It is a moment in life in which imagination and spiritually creative solutions must overcome old fears, limiting beliefs, and life structures.

The Neptune-Mercury part is there to open up your mind to more than what your old way of thinking and your default tendencies of perception will give you. It is irrelevant what did or did not happen in the past. What is relevant now is what you can create through your perception and willingness to make space in your mind for what has not yet happened.

The Neptune-Mars part neutralizes ego, excess ambition, and has a kind of tranquilizing effect on your physical energies. This is quite a tough triple hit by Neptune to a very key portion of your natal chart. ***Because the Martial drive is so important to our physical energy and feeling of can-do, I think you could benefit from wearing some Carnelian until your fighting spirit is back in full (maybe even for the next several years).

Some very good transits

There are some very good windows of opportunity opened or opening in the following transits:

- Pluto trine natal Moon: this one allows you to be more clear about how you feel so that you can gain a stronger feeling of what you need moving forward. It is better to follow new intuitions during this time than to emphasize old, stale emotions or habits that may be holding you back.

- Pluto sextile natal Mercury-Saturn-Mars: this one helps compensate quite a bit for the Neptune conjunction to these natal planets. What's happening here when considering the plural Pluto transits is the development of depth, greater depth of purpose, etc. Draw from deeper within yourself. The universe supports your efforts in that very well right now.

- Neptune sextile natal Moon: reinforces the intuition and spiritual potentials of the Pluto transit (to Moon).

- Uranus conjunct natal Venus: this is a great window of opportunity for new friends — if you allow it. It allows fresh perspectives to come in through others, as well as for new slants on relationship, friendship, and life priorities that may come at no other time in your life. Look for these positives in any form, believe them, and act on them in basic ways that say "I'm ready for what's new."

Uranus's transit quincunx natal N.Node for most of the last year or more is asking you to make some adjustments in how you see and understand your future and life direction. Expect change as what liberates you from stagnancy or more of the same.

I don't want to belabor the astrological factors, but wanted to give you some detail because they are significant. Yet this is not by any means the most difficult set of transits. Challenging, confusing, disheartening in some ways — yes — but not as bad as it feels or looks. There is a good thing at work in your life, but it has not yet manifested outwardly, like the proverbial seed in the soil and possibly already sprouting, but still invisible before it breaks the surface.

It's good that I hit that note about self-esteem, because I just did a mini-reading for you from The Crystal Bible and it landed on Rhyiolite, a self-esteem booster and strengthening gem that helps you integrate past and present. It aids self-acceptance while igniting the potential and creativity of the Soul. It helps you remember your strength and bring it back into play here-and-now. It can be obtained very inexpensively on Etsy: http://www.etsy.com/search?q=small%20tumbled%20rhyolite&ref=search_bar ... wear it on the body and use it as a meditation stone.

Peace and healing to you,
Kannon

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posted February 22, 2023 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summer Madness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Summer Madness, I hope you are feeling better.

When you started this thread last year Saturn was square your natal Venus, and at 15S52 declination it was also contra-parallel your natal Moon (+/-16N20) — and it had been there for a while. A double-shot ofSaturn transits in which things are not as bad as they feel.

The purpose (of Saturn opposite/contra-parallel natal Moon) is to rein in your emotional involvements, conserve emotional energy, and come to a clearer understanding of your current needs. It can often accompany a distance or cooling off of the relationship with mother and/or women generally. It can feel isolating and lonely. Those who have the lowest self-esteem tend to have the worst time with this type of double hit to natal Venus & Moon. Saturn feels stern, demanding, negative compared to the sensitive, needful, feeling Lunar nature and the affectionate nature of Venus. The key is to prioritize what it takes to feel good, get your needs met, and tell the negative internal voices to shut up.

During those types of transits Amethyst on the body can be helpful (or Blue Sapphire or Blue Spinel) to neutralize the negative side of Saturn and raise your spirits and gain spiritual perspective. Another approach is to boost the natal planet (Venus = White Danburite/Sapphire/Topaz; Moon = Moonstone, Pearl) until the Saturn transit(s) is over.

While there may be natal factors we could point to that have themes of restriction or difficulties, the biggest tendency indicated (Mercury conjunct Saturn in Pisces) is the tendency for a negative outlook by focusing on the negative (Saturn-Mercury) and emphasizing delays (Saturn-Mars). With these Saturn aspects the most important thing to keep in mind is that things are never as bad as they look.

More importantly, this too shall pass. The culmination of frustrations and difficult experiences when you posted this thread/chart last year coincided with some challenging transits that I'll describe for you ...

1) Pluto conjunct natal Neptune.
This transit marks a period in which your ideals, beliefs, and worldview must change. Not allowing that means certain disappointment. This transit is very important and can have long-lasting effects. It depends totally on how you use it to set new ideals, obtain fresh perspectives, and gain insights into living creatively. I wrote an article about it here: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/plutos-transit-conjunct-parallel-nata l-neptune/

2) Neptune conjunct natal Saturn-Mercury-Mars.
This is one of those hard Neptune to Saturn transits in which it is very important to remember that things are not as bad as they appear (or feel). The Neptune process here is to dissolve old life structures, inhibitions, or fears (Saturn) that are holding you back. They may have been appropriate in the past, but aren't anymore. It is a moment in life in which imagination and spiritually creative solutions must overcome old fears, limiting beliefs, and life structures.

The Neptune-Mercury part is there to open up your mind to more than what your old way of thinking and your default tendencies of perception will give you. It is irrelevant what did or did not happen in the past. What is relevant now is what you can create through your perception and willingness to make space in your mind for what has not yet happened.

The Neptune-Mars part neutralizes ego, excess ambition, and has a kind of tranquilizing effect on your physical energies. This is quite a tough triple hit by Neptune to a very key portion of your natal chart. ***Because the Martial drive is so important to our physical energy and feeling of can-do, I think you could benefit from wearing some Carnelian until your fighting spirit is back in full (maybe even for the next several years).

[b]Some very good transits

There are some very good windows of opportunity opened or opening in the following transits:

- Pluto trine natal Moon: this one allows you to be more clear about how you feel so that you can gain a stronger feeling of what you need moving forward. It is better to follow new intuitions during this time than to emphasize old, stale emotions or habits that may be holding you back.

- Pluto sextile natal Mercury-Saturn-Mars: this one helps compensate quite a bit for the Neptune conjunction to these natal planets. What's happening here when considering the plural Pluto transits is the development of depth, greater depth of purpose, etc. Draw from deeper within yourself. The universe supports your efforts in that very well right now.

- Neptune sextile natal Moon: reinforces the intuition and spiritual potentials of the Pluto transit (to Moon).

- Uranus conjunct natal Venus: this is a great window of opportunity for new friends — if you allow it. It allows fresh perspectives to come in through others, as well as for new slants on relationship, friendship, and life priorities that may come at no other time in your life. Look for these positives in any form, believe them, and act on them in basic ways that say "I'm ready for what's new."

Uranus's transit quincunx natal N.Node for most of the last year or more is asking you to make some adjustments in how you see and understand your future and life direction. Expect change as what liberates you from stagnancy or more of the same.

I don't want to belabor the astrological factors, but wanted to give you some detail because they are significant. Yet this is not by any means the most difficult set of transits. Challenging, confusing, disheartening in some ways — yes — but not as bad as it feels or looks. There is a good thing at work in your life, but it has not yet manifested outwardly, like the proverbial seed in the soil and possibly already sprouting, but still invisible before it breaks the surface.

It's good that I hit that note about self-esteem, because I just did a mini-reading for you from The Crystal Bible and it landed on Rhyiolite, a self-esteem booster and strengthening gem that helps you integrate past and present. It aids self-acceptance while igniting the potential and creativity of the Soul. It helps you remember your strength and bring it back into play here-and-now. It can be obtained very inexpensively on Etsy: http://www.etsy.com/search?q=small%20tumbled%20rhyolite&ref=search_bar ... wear it on the body and use it as a meditation stone.

Peace and healing to you,
Kannon

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Thank you for your post. My life consist of all 8th house and Saturn themes. Restriction and hardships. It is very stressful and weighs me down. Based off of my transits happening over the next few years, looks like that will be the case in my future too unfortunately.

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quote:
Originally posted by Summer Madness:
Thank you for your post. My life consist of all 8th house and Saturn themes. Restriction and hardships. It is very stressful and weighs me down. Based off of my transits happening over the next few years, looks like that will be the case in my future too unfortunately.

Look at my chart and you will see the same themes. While it did take a while for me to change my mindset and find healing, I did.

Attitude and outlook are everything. Change is generated by consciousness shift and intention (not blind luck or time). I understand that at not quite 27 you lack some perspective on life, but you can gain it. That's the purpose of studying astrology.

The birth chart is not deterministic. It only reflects the pattern(s) we came in with. The restriction comes from within (often reinforced by guilt or anticipation of negative outcomes). With awareness we can change it. Otherwise, what you're doing is living as a victim of metaphysical circumstance with no power to change anything as if it were written in stone.

Is that really the way you want to live?

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Thanks, Kannon.

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I'm having a very hard time emotionally as of late. Just feel very down. Could it be from transit Saturn squaring my natal Pluto?

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Hi Summer,

sorry you feel bad! Perhaps Saturn squaring Pluto has something to do with how you feel, but I wouldn't get hung up on these transits and start focussing on how you create your own reality by delving into the Law of Attraction or similarly known as the Law of Assumption (taught by Neville Goddard).

After all, we don't really know how astrology works. I don't think anybody can be cursed with a 'bad chart' either. As said before, it just shows us with what patterns you came into this life, but these can be changed!

I see the horoscope as a map of your subconscious mind, so analyzing the symbols we see in your chart can be a helpful tool comparable to psychoanalysis making you aware of what's really inside your subconscious mind so that you can change it/ reprogram it.

I also noticed 2 aspects (I didn't think have been mentioned before) and that is Lilith squaring your nodes and Pluto squaring your AC/DC axis.

The interpretation I read of Pluto squaring the Ascendant is interesting but don't know if you think it's fitting for you:

'On the path to healing your underlying traumas and wounds, you easily become distracted by power struggles and the desire to have the last word or the last laugh.
You aren't afraid to exert control and power over others. You may even go to extremes of being manipulative or coercing others... "

But I figured since Pluto is also squaring your descendant, it could also be you're attracting this type of behavior from others...

Lilith squaring your nodes means according to the 12andus site that your sense of purpose and destiny is often at odds with your desire to break free from restrictions.

You may feel stifled by your path and rebel or self-sabotage rather than rising to the occasion. You will have to face fears of restriction and limitation in order to follow your greater destiny. When you experience a crisis of identity, it is usually tied in some way to your sense of purpose and destiny.

By following your destiny, you're also becoming more clear about who you are and what your gifts are.

Now you may see this as 'more proof' that you're cursed, but no, I see this and other aspects in the chart of mere symbols of what you already subconsciously believe in and have your focus on including your outer reality is the result of what you subconsciously manifest and have been manifesting.

The clue to a happier life also lies in your north node of course and I think the Lilith aspect here also shows what you may need to become aware of so you can let it go.

Since there are various interpretations of your nodal axis and Libra has an association with cooperation/teamwork / others, it's interesting to note that Lilith squaring the nodes is in the 11th house which also is associated with other people / larger networks.. so I wonder how this should be interpreted...perhaps you are suppressing emotional(cancer) (taboo) (lilith) issues by trying to blend in larger groups, or by identifying with a group that makes you feel rebellious but you need to find healthy (chiron) ways of cooperating with people (libra) to find self-worth and build up your self-esteem (2nd house). Perhaps the south node in Aries, the 8th could be interpreted as being too strongly (aries) attached / relying upon others in a fixated way to feel secure or similar to your Lilith squaring the nodes, you may act rebellious but it's for the wrong cause because it's just a means to escape your own issues?

Cancer in the 11th may also mean that you are very sensitive to other people's feelings , especially your family but you may have to limit your time around manipulative people and manifest those healthy relationships that will support you in your self-esteem and feeling worthy.

BTW does Mars in the anaretic degree of Pisces gives you a 'very Piscean Mars' or more like a very Aries-like Mars?

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I just noticed something else: the axis of Gemini and Sagitarrius are intercepted including the planets and asteroids in the 4th and 10th house. This means that you'll probably have difficulty accessing and expressing the energies of these signs and planets. Whatever is represented by these signs can be bottled up, repressed and possibly show themselves inappropriately.

To limit this, you need to be conscious of it and work it accordingly. Very often, the way that you express these signs is through their shadow or low energy.

This makes sense too as very often what you're feeling is frustration.

The intercepted signs show a karmic imbalance that has occurred, now to be finally resolved and brought into balance.
The most important thing for a person with an interception to know is that there is no need for feeling like a failure or feeling guilty, which is often the case.

The nature of the interception causes feelings of frustration.

You said that you keep silent around others.. well that I can see symbolized in your intercepted gemini: feeling free to speak is a luxury that only other children get to feel, you have to learn to conquer that with time and age. As you grow, you may find that it is only you who is holding yourself back from saying your thoughts. You still learn that people will hinder others, in order to remain unquestioned and unopposed but that does not have to apply to you anymore.

Your moon intercepted means your emotional nature was denied. You have a hard time getting in touch with your true feelings. Your moon can also represent your mother (including Ceres which is also intercepted) , so you may have had a hard time connecting with your mom and receiving nurturing from her.

Intercepted Pluto may make you feel powerless to the will of others. You have a great desire to be transformed, but it seems like a scary thing.

The astro site (astrology42.com) says that diving into your darkness will help unlock your inner demons and transform. However, not everyone believes that it is necessary to delve into the dark to transform. If you delve into Law of Assumption techniques, you'll see that you can transform without having to re-experience dark **** , so that's what I would recommend. :-)

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Ugh, I truly have the worst chart. So sick of this garbage.

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Right now, I have transit Neptune conjunct my natal ascendant ruler (Mercury in the 29th degree of Pisces in the 8th house) and my 29th degree Pisces 8th house Mars.

Concurrently, I also have Uranus transiting over my natal Midheaven.

Transit North Node is transiting over my natal 8th house.

Unfortunately, life is still not good at the moment.

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