posted December 14, 2022 07:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Wow. Me thinks perhaps it's been more natural for you to let go of that part of you that wants to remain in "control" or know the outcome? Maybe its been easier for you to trust that all will work out for you and there is noth́ng wrong/amiss with showing a more gentle or vulnerable side to your personality? Etc.

You do have Moon in Pisces and in my experience, this Moon tends to feel a lot safer when trusting the "Universe" or some higher/divine force to intuitively inspire them towards a certain course that others may find puzzling and "not understand".

Because Pisces is not relying on logic but emotions to get them to their destination. And so inspiration is often emotionally felt and clarity had there our side the parameters of intellectual evaluations etc.

Sag Moon is similar. But with Sag, it's like they only "trust" the process based off of them agreeing and somehow "leading" how things unfold.

The fiery nature of wanting to go ahead and continually anticipate or "prophesy" how the current will take them , takes them over and they may get more entangled in intellectual or philosophical discernment of trying to figure out what's happening (and maintain some a level of "control" and safety there), then surrender and "let" things happen like Pisces.

Neptune is transiting your 8th(I assume) since 6th house cusp is Cap? How is it affecting investment planning and things related to the 8th?

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On top of neptune having so much tangible influence in my chart, and having natal moon in pisces, I also have jupiter in a fire sign sitting on my AC

I resonated a lot with what mentioned about how Sag energy operates in this case.

posted December 14, 2022 07:29 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
On top of neptune having so much tangible influence in my chart, and having natal moon in pisces, I also have jupiter in a fire sign sitting on my AC

I resonated a lot with what mentioned about how Sag energy operates in this case.

Neptune has been in my 8th house for a long time. Finance wise, I am where I planned to be, all those years ago. I struggle with greed a bit, and constantly go through periods of purging. I wish I could get a clearer sense of what I want vs what I really need.

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Unbeknownst to you, you nailed it🙆🏿‍♂️ ❤. That's exactly it☝🏿. I think that that is the mantra for the 8th house i.e. " constantly going through periods of purging and wishing one could get clarity or a definitive sense of what one wants vs. what they really need."

posted December 14, 2022 07:29 AM            

I second what Kannon McAfee says - thanks for thinking out loud your deep insights and thoughts!

It takes courage to do that

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It's brought everyone out of their boundaries by the looks of it, lol.

posted December 14, 2022 07:33 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
I'm still reading but wow Aries23Degrees, an amazing share.

I second what Kannon McAfee says - thanks for thinking out loud your deep insights and thoughts!

It takes courage to do that

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posted December 14, 2022 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Unbeknownst to you, you nailed it🙆🏿‍♂️ ❤. That's exactly it☝🏿. I think that that is the mantra for the 8th house i.e. " constantly going through periods of purging and wishing one could get clarity or a definitive sense of what one wants vs. what they really need."

👏🏿 Yes.

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Yes, I think Pluto and the 8th house tend to make you want things that aren't/shouldn't be yours. Meaning you don't necessarily need them, but you just go after them only for the sake of getting to the essence and the bottom of that experience/thing/person. Out of a sheer, obsessive curiosity. Sometimes the results are positive, but you can't always know, unless you experience. And this may well be the onset of getting in that rut I just mentioned.

posted December 16, 2022 07:33 PM            

It coincided with my children growing up, one leaving the house, and me becoming my new identity. Letting go of my child was hard, but honestly it was the finding clarity of who I would now become that was harder. It is sextile my Moon now, and I am finding myself through spirituality and gaining emotional ground. Next it trines my Sun. But the opposition to Mars definitely dissolved boundaries and characteristics of myself that were untrue, or unnecessary. That was a very heavy transit though.

posted December 19, 2022 12:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It can feel like you are going insane. It really can. But it will be alright. It will be❤.

There are days where I feel like I should be locked up somewhere. But then they pass. Look to the transit of the moon. To me it's always when Moon is in cardinal signs Aries,Can,Cap,Lib that I feel the intensity of feelings. I think there is a general connection between the energies of Moon and Neptune somehow. It's like the Moon allows Neptune to flourish.Or visa versa.

In such instances of this mashing up, one can't discern one's own thoughts from the vibrational energy they picked up elsewhere from others.

With the "loss of boundaries is the confusion and unintentional "eavesdropping" into other people's feelings and thoughts. Including media opinions and sentiments-which are seldom ever positive.

That is why selective company is so important right now.And sometimes even outright isolation. This because one can be so sensitized to so much, it can be overwhelming and "maddening".

My attraction to water has increased. Either hearing water running or seeing an ocean in pictures or on YouTube. It's been raining a couple of days here where I stay. And so I wonder if the purpose of rain(outside the fauna and flora need for it) also serves as a spiritual absorption of atmospheric negative energy?

Spiritual healers in this country go to flowing rivers to do a "cleanse". But what fills up those waters? Rain. And rain is running water. 🤷🏿‍♂️

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Thank you for making me feel feel better!
Ooo nice!
I've been so isolated and weak, but it was soothing to watch the snow fall out the window today. I really need to get my law of attraction groove back.

When I am this isolated I've had so much time to just think! I've had some mind blowing realizations!

When I got proposed to, my guard was completely down. It was suppose to be Noah's Ark chapel lesson day. but it was also the last day before the schools here shut down from covid. I only had one kid show up that day.

I wore the Noah's Ark sweater from my late grandma. So that made me feel like she was there. I had a thought last night I think. Did she know from beyond that this marriage would be a disaster?

She loved collecting things about the story of Noah's ark. Well it rained so much for my wedding...that there was a state emergency the next day. Now that blew my mind. So I feel like she was also telling me "yikes"

So much rain that is floods is not good luck ladies and gentlemen.

I've been talking to dead grandparents even ones who aren't blood. I know that Pisces can rule old people. I wonder if Neptune has a connection with that too.

posted December 30, 2022 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Thank you for making me feel feel better!
Ooo nice!
I've been so isolated and weak, but it was soothing to watch the snow fall out the window today. I really need to get my law of attraction groove back.

When I am this isolated I've had so much time to just think! I've had some mind blowing realizations!

When I got proposed to, my guard was completely down. It was suppose to be Noah's Ark chapel lesson day. but it was also the last day before the schools here shut down from covid. I only had one kid show up that day.

I wore the Noah's Ark sweater from my late grandma. So that made me feel like she was there. I had a thought last night I think. Did she know from beyond that this marriage would be a disaster?

She loved collecting things about the story of Noah's ark. Well it rained so much for my wedding...that there was a state emergency the next day. Now that blew my mind. So I feel like she was also telling me "yikes"

So much rain that is floods is not good luck ladies and gentlemen.

I've been talking to dead grandparents even ones who aren't blood. I know that Pisces can rule old people. I wonder if Neptune has a connection with that too.

I see the moon is going to be in Scorpio soon. I am so over the fixed sign energy with Uranus and Saturn, and having so much fixed in the middle degrees of my chart. But I notice Scorpio really brings out that "enough is enough" in me. So hopefully it's productive, and less painful this time. I have been easily prone to anxiety like never in my life. So maybe this will help with that.

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posted December 30, 2022 11:27 AM            

I already have Sun-Nep natal and(to put it briefly)I see it as the illumination (Sun)of the subliminal(Nep).The mind tends to be poised towards looking into the subtle and unnoticed. This is not missed as one recognizes(Sun) things hidden i.e. manipulation , brainwashing, secrecy, covert actions or anything concealed(Nep).

But much like Jupiter on Sun, there is danger of overlooking the obvious whilst on this path of trailing the hidden. I have Jupiter conjunct Nep/Sun too.

So i am thinking that this coming Neptune transit will start to quiet the mind to be more receptive of things that are often subtle and not easily recognizable to others.

I am slowly starting to re-acquaint myself to the titles of "Mr Delusional", " Mr not in reality" , " seeing what you want to see" or " there you go being cray cray again".

I know that this is the breaking down of ego attachment to what people think of me(as earlier stated). But it can be so infuriating to know things intuitively and then be ridiculed when trying to articulate them to others.

I guess its part of the Neptune effect on the individual? Its a journey that emphasizes outer isolation so that you hear what is going on within? No distractions? And I guess the feeling of being ostracized by others is a part of that?

Neptune is intuitive "knowing".The Pisces/ Neptune mantra is "I believe". So there is a gnawing feeling that keeps disturbing oneself from doing what others advise i.e. "forget about it", "look at the reality of the situation " or "dont let your imagination run away with you" etc.

As a Neptune influenced person in this transit, you'll find that you spend a lot of time alone. I am already used to this(I have thos placement natally).But i guess for those who are undergoing the transit and are unfamiliar, they may have the unpleasant realization that others avoid them/find them "weird" or it is them that may find themselves purposely avoiding commitments to be with others etc. during this time.

In these "alone times"(Nep), things are illuminated (Sun). Things that were obscure and hard to see because of listening to too much "counsel" outside of onesown etc. Are brought into your awareness. If you should explain them to others, you risk being called "delusional". But are they delusions? You won't know and probably won't have the assistance of your intellectual, rational side to discern whether they are or not. This thing of "belief" can indeed be quite daunting to put into practice. This especially if you have been so conditioned and comforted by "proof" etc.

I always think that Neptune-Sun people are a touch more "Piscean" than even the Pisceans themselves. As the life themes are very heavily influenced by Neptune. As I said,there is no filter.No interruption.So always there seems to be confusion (that is if you entertain the noise without). But more clarity (if you go within). One has to trust ones path within. Its a test of faith.

During this transit, it may mean that the the Father is less present in your life? Perhaps they pass on /become ill/ unreliable or the relationship between you and them becomes difficult to define.

There will likely be identity issues because of not being able to clearly define yourself separate from what you feel others influence /expect you to be anymore. This sense of loss of boundaries can perhaps even be a sign of growing psychic inclinations? This especially when you find yourself having vivid dreams. Watch for health issues too as lack of boundaries means lack of defenses to threats.

You get more creative. The Neptune nature may have you recognize the beauty and fluidity of life. And this awareness can have you want to engage with it in a more "open -ended " way . But it will be in ways that you are most naturally inclined to. So you won't suddenly be an artist if you've never held a brush.

So if you were a writer, you may start being inspired to write fantasy stories/ romance. If into music, you'll be writing songs/ poetry. If you have a passion for acting, you will feel a need to engage in amateur acting clubs or related "performance art". Maybe you love designing clothes,painting, photography ? Its usually something that you secretly indulged in and people didn't know about.

Places of retreat increase in relevance and appeal i.e. you move to the country,you camp in the mountains, you jump into a lake or river all by yoursef. Or sit for hours on end watching the sea ebb and flow. The nighttime is important for thoughts and inner connection.

Neutral colours that are not "loud" are comfortable for you to wear. A growing protectiveness of your privacy that includes deleting your search history on the internet or allowing less people to access you via phone or your home.

Your home/place of work has you function better if its an environment that has an element of chaos therein i.e. not too neat or orderly. Maybe you wear beads, sea shells or related neck wear with totems or emblems representing fauna and flora but steer clear of sparkling jewellery?

posted January 10, 2023 05:21 PM            

Water needs structure (earth/Saturn) to become a substantial body. Otherwise, it is a vapor.

Neptune's perceptiveness actually extends beyond what can be labeled as 'known' (Mercury) or more advanced knowing (Uranus) because it deals in what cannot be verified by any outside source or verifier. It is internal, therefore non-objective. Science and our systems of 'knowing' deal in the external, objective-verifiable.

So this is the arena of intuition and how we deal with that in the manner of open-hearted, open-minded self-trust is the precursor to how we handle the Pluto energy. Neptune is training in the Divine Wisdom within that relocates trust to the spiritual, the metaphysical Source present everywhere in a unity-existence. While Uranus deals in the paranormal that can, after some re-defining of terms, be documented or measured in some way, Neptune deals more in the very personal-spiritual. Personal ideals or visions, talking to the dead, dreams and the meaning within them.

Some people with pronounced Neptunian experiences may speak in terms of knowing, so do I. But it is in the vein of the personal, non-verifiable by others. So don't expect them to acknowledge what or why we 'know.'

It is very interesting to me that the Neptunian track within psychiatry / modern psychology was with dream analysis. But as as it became fashionable (according to the now debunked bio-chemical theory of neurosis/mental illness) to drug people instead, modern psychology doesn't seem interested in people's dreams or in using hypnosis, both of the metaphysical Neptunian. Instead, drugs get the emphasis, in which scientific materialism and commercialism conspire to suppress the woo-woo.

Well, the woo-woo is here to stay. It has always been with us. To the extent we come to accept the woo-woo within, we accept ourselves. [mic drop]

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posted January 11, 2023 09:52 AM              

At that moment it felt as if all the existential doubts were eventually answered without a single thought, that is to say, the acquired wisdom was a knowledge in which no intellectual knowledge was needed, everything fell into place intuitively if it should be described but it is impossible to do so.

This feeling of ego or I that is felt in the body has returned and is so strong that it convinces itself that reality or truth is as dictated by thoughts, when these are illusory. They are the thoughts (the clouds) that prevent us from seeing the truth/what we really are (the sky that never disappears).

The transit of Pluto is also happening in the 1st house

posted January 11, 2023 12:35 PM            

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I would describe Neptune as intuitive feeling, envisioning, maybe you could say sensing — but 'knowing' is conventionally too definite a term for the highly subjective perceptions of the Neptunian, watery nature. They need structure, training, direction from someone who has navigated that ocean and knows it well. Or from patient experience and maturity from the dreamer/intuitive themselves.

Water needs structure (earth/Saturn) to become a substantial body. Otherwise, it is a vapor.

Neptune's perceptiveness actually extends beyond what can be labeled as 'known' (Mercury) or more advanced knowing (Uranus) because it deals in what cannot be verified by any outside source or verifier. It is internal, therefore non-objective. Science and our systems of 'knowing' deal in the external, objective-verifiable.

So this is the arena of intuition and how we deal with that in the manner of open-hearted, open-minded self-trust is the precursor to how we handle the Pluto energy. Neptune is training in the Divine Wisdom within that relocates trust to the spiritual, the metaphysical Source present everywhere in a unity-existence. While Uranus deals in the paranormal that can, after some re-defining of terms, be documented or measured in some way, Neptune deals more in the very personal-spiritual. Personal ideals or visions, talking to the dead, dreams and the meaning within them.

Some people with pronounced Neptunian experiences may speak in terms of knowing, so do I. But it is in the vein of the personal, non-verifiable by others. So don't expect them to acknowledge what or why we 'know.'

It is very interesting to me that the Neptunian track within psychiatry / modern psychology was with dream analysis. But as as it became fashionable (according to the now debunked bio-chemical theory of neurosis/mental illness) to drug people instead, modern psychology doesn't seem interested in people's dreams or in using hypnosis, both of the metaphysical Neptunian. Instead, drugs get the emphasis, in which scientific materialism and commercialism conspire to suppress the woo-woo.

Well, the woo-woo is here to stay. It has always been with us. To the extent we come to accept the woo-woo within, we accept ourselves. [mic drop]

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I feel this year and going on to the cusp of 2025, is very important for me. There is a spiritual awakening at hand. It sounds more romantic than it is in experience. Because as i said before on this thread, I do feel like I am progressively being "broken in". So the ego self is being set aside.

posted January 11, 2023 12:46 PM            

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A long time ago I have a Neptune transit on my moon in Pisces, I haven't followed the thread of conversation much but since this transit occurred I had a loss of 'ego' or 'I' for a while, I thought it was a psychological problem It hasn't been bad at all, everything was beautiful and timeless,the feeling of being trapped inside the body dissipated, thoughts and emotions were impersonal, nothing affected me or I was untouched by the events that happened, the illusions of the world also dissipated and there was only unity.

At that moment it felt as if all the existential doubts were eventually answered without a single thought, that is to say, the acquired wisdom was a knowledge in which no intellectual knowledge was needed, everything fell into place intuitively if it should be described but it is impossible to do so.

This feeling of ego or I that is felt in the body has returned and is so strong that it convinces itself that reality or truth is as dictated by thoughts, when these are illusory. They are the thoughts (the clouds) that prevent us from seeing the truth/what we really are (the sky that never disappears).

The transit of Pluto is also happening in the 1st house

Sorry for my English, I use a translator and some sentences can't make sense..

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This was beautiful Franco. Very well said.

Pluto will be in Aqua for the next 20 years though. So it will be busy in your 12th house(whole sign).

I find the transit of Neptune squaring my Jup/Sun and Neptune, challenging the belief systems that i have so readily attached myself to in making sense of the world and the metaphysical.

posted January 11, 2023 02:29 PM            

You have described very well the purpose and best of Neptune's influence. So now it is all a matter of using the experience to form an ideal by which you can live in that sample of unity reality, stretching it out into the rest of your life. It is far easier to do this with a recent experience than to wait and years later wish for it in long hindsight.

Thoughts are not merely transient. They can be used to frame and intention in line with the best of what you know.

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posted January 24, 2023 01:28 PM            

Neptune has been transiting my Ic/Mc axis by sextile and trine respectively. Its no wonder I have been feeling "lost" and just "out of it" for the past 3 years(2020 started this mess).

I told my friend yesterday how I wish I could find the "reset" button in me . This so I could have renewed energy and strength in facing life. I am beat!

Didn't think that sextiles and trines would have such an impact. I was wrong. I should have never ignored/under estimated them.

Interestingly, I faced a similar time of fear and extreme anxiety etc. When Pluto in Sag was trine my Asc/sextile Dsc. It got more amplified with the semi-sextile/inconjunct aspect to Ic/Mc. That was tough!😔

The current opportunity I am in appeared when transiting Saturn Aqua 20 was sextile my Asc/Dsc axis, trine my Mars and square Venus. Natal Moon was also closely inconjunct trans Sat 20.

Things are picking up as Sat crossed over the Ic/Mc by semi-sextile and inconjunct aspect.

So now that Uranus is at 16 Tau trine my Mercury(ruler of the 6th house of work and on my Mc). It will go forward and when at 17-20, it will sextile Moon, inconjunct Mars and form a semi-sextile, inconjunct aspect with the Asc.

Then it will later trine/sextile the Mc/Ic when it moves past the 20 degree mark.

posted January 24, 2023 10:56 PM            

I think what you are describing w/ Neptune is due to a conjunction, parallel, square, opposition, or contra-parallel, or possible minor aspect, not a flowing sextile or trine. I know you know about declinations. Are you sure there's not a transit there? Neptune is currently 3.7° south. A couple years it was about 5° south. So if you've got a natal point (even a cusp) at around 4° north or south that is where the lostness is, not in a sextile or trine. Those release one's innate capacity with that planetary energy and make it easier to open up and develop. There are even minor aspects in declination (segments of 15° along the declination curve) that can factor in here, in transit or progression.

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posted January 25, 2023 02:42 AM            

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Quincunxes (inconjuncts) are certainly not minor. They just have a narrower orb of influence in transit (about 2° max). Same with semi-sextiles (orb <1°). None of the 30-degree aspects are really minor.

I think what you are describing w/ Neptune is due to a conjunction, parallel, square, opposition, or contra-parallel, or possible minor aspect, not a flowing sextile or trine. I know you know about declinations. Are you sure there's not a transit there? Neptune is currently 3.7° south. A couple years it was about 5° south. So if you've got a natal point (even a cusp) at around 4° north or south that is where the lostness is, not in a sextile or trine. Those release one's innate capacity with that planetary energy and make it easier to open up and develop. There are even minor aspects in declination (segments of 15° along the declination curve) that can factor in here, in transit or progression.

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I checked. There is the trans Neptune 22Pis square natal Jup 23Sag close aspect.And that i have spoken about plenty( which plays a role).

Well, outside of Natal Pluto in Sco 1 @ 3.36 N, there isn't any other planet/ point (by declinations) that is in aspect with Neptune. Not even by progressions 😕

Could the transiting Neptune Pisces 3.42s on natal Pluto 3.36 n contra parallel aspect be that potent? My thinking was always the need for an inner planet Sun-Mars to "sync" the connection. Either by conjunction, square or opposition to natal Pluto.

This is a definite wipe-out for sure. Really awful. I feel like I am slowly losing my mind. The effect has intensified since 2021.

posted July 29, 2023 10:05 PM            

I've completely spiraled for a bit there.

My protection spirit animal warned me leading up to her getting exposed. I had a forehead embrace with a tuxedo cat. Before she called me at 1:50am.

Funny thing is I've even told her that is my protection animal. I even told her about my encounter before she called me.

And she still tried to stop me from living my life...by making things up about me to people.

posted July 30, 2023 06:47 AM            

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Tell me about it Aries23Degrees a fake friend was exposed when it went stationary rx. She was spreading rumors about me and people I've had intercourse with. I've cut her out of my life.

I've completely spiraled for a bit there.

My protection spirit animal warned me leading up to her getting exposed. I had a forehead embrace with a tuxedo cat. Before she called me at 1:50am.

Funny thing is I've even told her that is my protection animal. I even told her about my encounter before she called me.

And she still tried to stop me from living my life...by making things up about me to people.

Neptune is transiting my 11th house.

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Interesting. Neptune in 11th really played out in a classical manner for you 🙏🏿. I am glad that that was revealed.

Your input here had me reflect on some things in my life that Neptune has been doing when in the 11th🤔

Nep Aqu(particularly when it was squaring Sat) was "party time" for me. It was during my Uni days.Sat rules my 10th & 11th.I was drinking(Nep) and partying a lot.