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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 07, 2023 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
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I like this👌🏿. It does have hints of Neptune. And I dare say, Moon too.🤔

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posted November 07, 2023 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I’ll share something soon, that I saw on Reddit, a few months ago, that I could relate to Neptune.

I’m also wondering how long Neptune has been semi-sextile my sun.


It will stick around at 25Pis-0 Aries until 2025.So Yeah, it will drag(if your Sun is at any of the latter degrees.

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posted November 12, 2023 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrangeCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Indeed. Very true. There is still attachment to the ego self that is made up of experiences of the past.The Moon/Mars square which is used to thinking that any kind of rattling of its set walls is asking for a "fight", sends a wave of resistance. And I think that that is where the pain is borne from. It can echoe in the body as feeling like a child lost and afraid. Angry and full of hurt.

The resistance of the Mars/Moon mantra is "this is MY pain","these are MY issues", " you don't know how much I have been through" and "I have every right to feel like this because of how wounded I have been thus far" etc.

So whilst Mars/Moon has served me to defend against an early childhood with a threatening environment i.e. a tense
and often intimidating Father etc. It also subconsciously ingrained a defense to keep BOTH the ominous and opportune of life outside.

So it matters not how gentle the demolition of this persona is, i have been so "strong" for so long and so deeply attached to these psychological wounds I carry with me, that I wince at even a mild breeze shaking the walls.

It's appropriate I suppose, because the additional transit of Chiron in Aries in house 1 of self opposes and contra-parallels retrograde to my natal Mars Lib (Asc ruler) would make one feel the palpable " wounded" (Chiron) "self"(Aries) etc.

But we must soldier on. Lots of crying has been happening . This for the child I was and the man I became. It’s not all bad. I think I am releasing long held resentment as to how painful parts of my childhood were. And how they affected my response to life now.❤🙏🏿


I like how erudite your responses are. I’ve read many on several threads and been meaning to say so.

Your chart reminds me of a friend I once had. Aries AC, Chiron on AC. You fortunately have chart ruler Mars in Libra. She has chart ruler Mars in Gemini on 3rd opposite Neptune.

The reason your response resonated with me is because our 15 year almost-daily friendship fell apart when Tr Mars conjunct her N Moon and N Pluto on her DC. Simultaneously she had Tr Neptune square her Venus in Sag, 7th lord.

You have the wisdom to recognise your pain and label it as such. She took her life’s frustrations out on me; projecting pain that others had inflicted on her onto me as well.

Kannon’s reply made me realise that issues brought up during a Neptune transit might unmask hidden self- esteem issues. Previously hidden issues at any rate.

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posted November 13, 2023 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrangeCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tr Neptune is in my 5th, quincunx my Venus Saturn in 10th in Leo.

I was pondering @Aries23degrees comment about experiencing the joys of childhood with Tr Neptune in my 5th. 🤔

I remember when Tr Neptune conjunct my 5th cusp; I had my second child. It was a beautiful time for me. Perhaps more reflective of my Pluto square and then opposition to Sun Jupiter, life was rather challenging after that.

Now I feel like maybe it’s time to let go of some of the responsibilities I’ve had for the past decade. I’ve let go of relationships that have lived past their use-by date. In fact, from martyrdom for and medicalisation of children (another Neptune in 5th theme), I’ve come around to finding peace and solitude in simplifying my life.

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posted November 13, 2023 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrangeCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I am starting to think that semi-sextile aspects/inconjunct aspects(by transit and natal) are not so "minor"🤔

Semi-sextiles are more potent than we have been taught to believe. They act as scaffolding for the planets in the next sign to build on.

I have Sun Jupiter semi-sextile Moon; Sun Moon in mutual reception. I also have Mars, 2nd chart ruler, semi-sextile Pluto, 1st chart ruler. And this same Pluto is also semi-sextile Uranus conjunct AC.

I never realised how much they lean on the planet in the preceding sign. It’s like one of those domino art thingys.

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posted November 14, 2023 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StrangeCat:
I like how erudite your responses are. I’ve read many on several threads and been meaning to say so.

Your chart reminds me of a friend I once had. Aries AC, Chiron on AC. You fortunately have chart ruler Mars in Libra. She has chart ruler Mars in Gemini on 3rd opposite Neptune.

The reason your response resonated with me is because our 15 year almost-daily friendship fell apart when Tr Mars conjunct her N Moon and N Pluto on her DC. Simultaneously she had Tr Neptune square her Venus in Sag, 7th lord.

You have the wisdom to recognise your pain and label it as such. She took her life’s frustrations out on me; projecting pain that others had inflicted on her onto me as well.

Kannon’s reply made me realise that issues brought up during a Neptune transit might unmask hidden self- esteem issues. Previously hidden issues at any rate.


Thank you for this🙌🏿. I think my Moon /Mercury opposition natal divorces me from feelings/instinctive desires being experienced subjectively . The moon (as I have learned)is a very desiring planet. This especially when in Cancer or Tau. Mine is in Cancer.

So, many times I find myself analyzing feelings MORE than feeling them. Looking to articulate what I feel (in a cerebral sense) rather than simply going through the motions of it.

When I re-read my responses on here,it tends to be "giving" Mercury OR air Moon vibes. Not water. The emotional side of the Moon is suppressed or even exiled.

#On your friend.

With her Mars in 3rd,this is someone who can use their words to cut others to the quick.Mars does well in 3rd. And by that I mean that it tends to very combative, argumentative and hostile (competitive). These are all attributes of Mars.

But in friendships or relationships, this nature(if there are not other factors in the chart mitigating it) will be problematic. The native can easily get into fights with others or find that they "compete" with friends and see them as threatening to them. This can create a lot of hostility in friendships.

Mars opposite Neptune may suggest that the native may feel that they are the victim(Nep) of other's cruelty(Mars). And that by defending themselves (Mars) they are protecting their vulnerable selves from exploitation (Nep).

There could be issues pertaining to feeling "bullied" or perceptions of being "taken advantage of"(Nep). This is the real psychological imprisonment of Neptune opp Mars. And so Mars (being the planet of "warrior energy"),will fight to free the "captives".

The problem however, is that one never truly feels "free". The "enemy" (opposition) which is always on the outside can mutate and take on many forms.

Kinda like the "Devil", it can use underhanded tactics i.e. posing as someone that they can trust or let into their inner circle, only to pull a fast one on them(Nep) by catching them offguard.

So they remain forever vigilant and sharp(Mars) of either friend or for. And respond with quick assertion (Mars) at the onset of any perceived covert actions that they believe seek to "undermine" them(Nep).

Such paranoia can be harmful to friendships. If someone is distrustful of even your best intentions, they may end up alienating themselves by seeing you as the "enemy" and responding accordingly to you ( as they would any other threat)🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted November 14, 2023 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StrangeCat:
Tr Neptune is in my 5th, quincunx my Venus Saturn in 10th in Leo.

I was pondering @Aries23degrees comment about experiencing the joys of childhood with Tr Neptune in my 5th. 🤔

I remember when Tr Neptune conjunct my 5th cusp; I had my second child. It was a beautiful time for me. Perhaps more reflective of my Pluto square and then opposition to Sun Jupiter, life was rather challenging after that.

Now I feel like maybe it’s time to let go of some of the responsibilities I’ve had for the past decade. I’ve let go of relationships that have lived past their use-by date. In fact, from martyrdom for and medicalisation of children (another Neptune in 5th theme), I’ve come around to finding peace and solitude in simplifying my life.


It's interesting because I really find the 5th house to be one of the three houses that I am least sure about.

It could be because of my 5th house ruler(Sun) conj Jup/Nep? But it's very hazy there.

Pluto aspecting your Sun/Jupiter would suggest a life perspective shift. So having a child can do that.

I also that the square can give way to other triggers via lunar,Venus or Mars transits. Something about God, Life and other world matters, start to be pondered a lot more (because of the Jupiter involvement).

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posted November 14, 2023 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Semi-sextiles are more potent than we have been taught to believe. They act as scaffolding for the planets in the next sign to build on.

I have Sun Jupiter semi-sextile Moon; Sun Moon in mutual reception. I also have Mars, 2nd chart ruler, semi-sextile Pluto, 1st chart ruler. And this same Pluto is also semi-sextile Uranus conjunct AC.

I never realised how much they lean on the planet in the preceding sign. It’s like one of those domino art thingys.


True. I am still trying to fully understand my own Venus semi-sextile Mars expression.

I noticed that with trans Mars sitting on my natal Ven, a lot of angry feelings surfaced. This similar to my natal Mars conjunct transiting Venus🤔.

I have yet to find a connection between transits of these planets and love. For me, it seems like the period of the transits is very antithetical to love. But am still observing and making notes. Transiting Venus will conjunct natal Mars this month.

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posted November 14, 2023 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrangeCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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True. I am still trying to fully understand my own Venus semi-sextile Mars expression.

I noticed that with trans Mars sitting on my natal Ven, a lot of angry feelings surfaced. This similar to my natal Mars conjunct transiting Venus🤔.

I have yet to find a connection between transits of these planets and love. For me, it seems like the period of the transits is very antithetical to love. But am still observing and making notes. Transiting Venus will conjunct natal Mars this month.


It’s funny that you have angry feelings with Mars conjunct Venus. I would associate angry feelings more with Moon Mars.

It depends on where the conjunction takes place. I note that your Mars is in Libra. The problem with the conjunction there is one of reception. Venus, though dignified, dislikes Mars in Libra. Ideally you’d need Tr Venus to be in Capricorn trining your N Mars to have any “romantic effect.”

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posted November 14, 2023 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrangeCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Thank you for this🙌🏿. I think my Moon /Mercury opposition natal divorces me from feelings/instinctive desires being experienced subjectively . The moon (as I have learned)is a very desiring planet. This especially when in Cancer or Tau. Mine is in Cancer.

So, many times I find myself analyzing feelings MORE than feeling them. Looking to articulate what I feel (in a cerebral sense) rather than simply going through the motions of it.

When I re-read my responses on here,it tends to be "giving" Mercury OR air Moon vibes. Not water. The emotional side of the Moon is suppressed or even exiled.

#On your friend.

With her Mars in 3rd,this is someone who can use their words to cut others to the quick.Mars does well in 3rd. And by that I mean that it tends to very combative, argumentative and hostile (competitive). These are all attributes of Mars.

But in friendships or relationships, this nature(if there are not other factors in the chart mitigating it) will be problematic. The native can easily get into fights with others or find that they "compete" with friends and see them as threatening to them. This can create a lot of hostility in friendships.

Mars opposite Neptune may suggest that the native may feel that they are the victim(Nep) of other's cruelty(Mars). And that by defending themselves (Mars) they are protecting their vulnerable selves from exploitation (Nep).

There could be issues pertaining to feeling "bullied" or perceptions of being "taken advantage of"(Nep). This is the real psychological imprisonment of Neptune opp Mars. And so Mars (being the planet of "warrior energy"),will fight to free the "captives".

The problem however, is that one never truly feels "free". The "enemy" (opposition) which is always on the outside can mutate and take on many forms.

Kinda like the "Devil", it can use underhanded tactics i.e. posing as someone that they can trust or let into their inner circle, only to pull a fast one on them(Nep) by catching them offguard.

So they remain forever vigilant and sharp(Mars) of either friend or for. And respond with quick assertion (Mars) at the onset of any perceived covert actions that they believe seek to "undermine" them(Nep).

Such paranoia can be harmful to friendships. If someone is distrustful of even your best intentions, they may end up alienating themselves by seeing you as the "enemy" and responding accordingly to you ( as they would any other threat)🤷🏿‍♂️


Everything you say about my friend is true. 🙏

She was bullied at school and at her first job and is always on the look out for a knife in the back. It doesn’t help that she has Jupiter expanding Chiron on the AC or Sun opposite a debilitated, anaretic, retrograde Saturn. Her entire chart is full of oppositions, none of which she can balance.

That we lasted as long as we did is testament to the fact that I’m the person EXACTLY described by her DC. I was her only friend, or closest friend until she started accusing me of things that were simply not true.

She has Moon conjunct Pluto in Libra on the DC, Uranus also aspecting but further away. I’m a Scorpio rising, Cancer Sun, with Uranus on AC. I’m ultra Uranian to the point that she, an Aquarian Sun Merc square Uranus, found me “strange.” But that wasn’t the issue.

Her need to constantly hunt down school mates and work mates from the Jurassic Era and compare herself to them left her feeling disgruntled and me feeling like an unpaid therapist. That was all fine if she knew astrology as well as she thought she did.

She said that her debilitated Sun in Aquarius, L5, was like my exalted Jupiter in Cancer, L5. She projected onto me so much I had to apologise for not getting her youngest son a watch when I bought one for his 2 older brothers. She said that act “****** her off” because it made her feel he was less worthy when she was the one who regretted birthing him. WTF, right?

Then she said that my Mars, L6, in 11th made me see friends as competition! OMG.

So now you know why I broke up with her. I already told her she was no match for the Pluto on her DC. She had the erroneous belief that Mars in Gemini opposite Neptune is quite as strong.

Anyway, I found ancient posts from her here today. It made me think back to fonder times.

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Paranoia can get the worst of people. Its usually exacerbated by a condition of a perceived threat externally that we have not decidedly figured out how to deal with yet, deny the existence of OR can't even define. But know its there. Tough!🤷🏿‍♂️. Sorry about that.❤

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posted January 26, 2024 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coming up for air 😥. Still unhappy. Still lost. Thank goodness I got through 2023. I really thought i was not going to make it🙏🏿

My fear now is that last year took so much from me. If 2024 stays the same, I don't know where i will summon the strength to survive again?

I got an effect from a medication that I started taking for a passing illness. It felt so good😶. I can see how drug-taking can be a Neptune thing. I felt temporarily good 👌🏿

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posted January 26, 2024 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Coming up for air 😥. Still unhappy. Still lost. Thank goodness I got through 2023. I really thought i was not going to make it🙏🏿

My fear now is that last year took do much from me. If 2024 stats the same, I don't know where i will summon the strength to survive again?

I got an effect from.a medication that unless taking for a passing illness. It felt do good😶. I can see how drug-taking can be a Neptune thing. I felt temporarily good 👌🏿


Same here, and I’m glad that you’re still here. ❤️

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Same here, and I’m glad that you’re still here. ❤️

Thanks teasel

I am not alone. I keep on reminding myself of that. Even as I may weep on my pillows -battling the mental anguish of nocturnal stillness,I am never alone ❤❤❤

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I quit vaping, smoking ciggs, and I haven't smoked weed in a week.

Neptune Pisces trine Saturn Capricorn h9
Neptune trine Juno h6

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posted January 28, 2024 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune just wants you to drown in your own sorrows!

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I was just reading an article about friends versus frenemies. The author said that blood pressure rises when you’re dealing with frenemies, much more than it does with people you’d consider enemies. It makes sense, and reminded me of when I said that it was easier for me to deal with certain people, because it was clear where we stood. I thought that was in this thread.

I wonder if Neptune sextile my moon and Venus, will help at all. I have no interest in anyone who chooses to be a frenemy. At the same time, I don’t see them as enemies. That’s too strong a word, even if they can be cruel. It’s also not like it’s nearly everyone, so I don’t see why they should affect me so much, in the long run.

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Neptune just wants you to drown in your own sorrows!


Or in something else. My mum became an alcoholic, but that happened before the square reached her sun, unless squares can be well activated when it’s still really wide. That’s when a lot of really horrible stuff started happening to me, online and off. I have absolutely no respect for those who mess with people’s heads. Or think that violence is the answer in situations that don’t require it.

Neptune was conjunct my mars, square my moon, Venus, and nodes, and trine Uranus/ascendant.

Neptune was exactly square her sun, when she died. 😔 she had several health issues, bad ones. An aneurysm was the unexpected one, that killed her.

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I quit vaping, smoking ciggs, and I haven't smoked weed in a week.

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Neptune trine Juno h6


Congra!!!🙌🏿

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Neptune just wants you to drown in your own sorrows!


No. 🤣🤣. I don't want that. All that feeling sorry for oneself and expecting to be comforted all the time. No!!!!

I am spending a great deal more time alone. I mean that I am actively avoiding others . That's Neptune.

Another thing is when one celebrates little accomplishments. That's what I did today after I managed to do a booking that i have long put off.

It's about living one day at a time and not trying to see too far ahead into the future. Because it's all so foggy.

The energy levels are not great. So procrastination is a real. I try to break up my workouts to be max 20 minutes.Not an hour(as before).

Like Saturn,I think Neptune wants one to conserve energy.I am doing this a lot by sleeping.Sleep is another Neptunian thing🙏🏿

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Or in something else. My mum became an alcoholic, but that happened before the square reached her sun, unless squares can be well activated when it’s still really wide. That’s when a lot of really horrible stuff started happening to me, online and off. I have absolutely no respect for those who mess with people’s heads. Or think that violence is the answer in situations that don’t require it.

Neptune was conjunct my mars, square my moon, Venus, and nodes, and trine Uranus/ascendant.

Neptune was exactly square her sun, when she died. 😔 she had several health issues, bad ones. An aneurysm was the unexpected one, that killed her.


So much loss Ngxesi (means condolences in Xhosa) to you🙏🏿

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Originally posted by teasel:
Or in something else. My mum became an alcoholic, but that happened before the square reached her sun, unless squares can be well activated when it’s still really wide. That’s when a lot of really horrible stuff started happening to me, online and off. I have absolutely no respect for those who mess with people’s heads. Or think that violence is the answer in situations that don’t require it.

Neptune was conjunct my mars, square my moon, Venus, and nodes, and trine Uranus/ascendant.

Neptune was exactly square her sun, when she died. 😔 she had several health issues, bad ones. An aneurysm was the unexpected one, that killed her.


Wow Neptune does rule alcohol.

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So much loss Ngxesi (means condolences in Xhosa) to you🙏🏿

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I think all of my chakra's were activated on the 2-2 portal day. I've been taking guidance from my TF on what witch craft spells to do.

I'm pretty sure I'm clairvoyant, and developing it.

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Issues of my sexual orientation are coming up again. This area of my life has always been very foggy to me (Neptune).

Sun rules my 5th house cusp.And Nep conj Sun natally. So the current transit of Nep square natal Sun, is bringing those issues up again.

This time the realization that there could be trauma that has informed me that there is a fear of penetrative sex with me.

The epiphany came as I talked to my friend about my likes and dislikes. And how at some point, many of my other acquaintances started to come to the conclusion that I was "asexual". Due mostly to my disinterest in looking for a relationship.

This transit is revealing that there could be a discomfort that I haven't dealt with in terms of that kind of level of intimacy.A discomfort that has me avoid looking for a partner because I think that they'll harshly judge me for it.🙏🏿

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