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ChildofVenus
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posted May 14, 2023 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought transit Saturn in my 7th house was supposed to be a good thing? I thought I was going to meet new people and have healthy relationships. I didn't know transit Saturn in the 7th house meant that I was going to be involved in relationships with people who are having a difficult time. I thought this transit was about eliminating relationships that weren't meant for you. Instead it doesn't seem to be the case. The only good thing that has happened so far is that I started therapy.

I don't like this transit at all and I don't see anything positive about it. I can't believe I have to endure this transit for years.

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posted May 15, 2023 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ChildofVenus, Saturn is known as the karmic teacher and needs time and effort before you get rewards. I don’t know how far along you are into this transit, but with Saturn transits patience and hard work is involved. I think therapy is a very Saturnian thing, it requires effort and some very uncomfortable realizations before you get real growth and are released from certain burdens. Without doubt this will bring you long term benefits.

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posted May 15, 2023 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AnastasiyaEnchanted     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like what was said above, Saturn unfortunately is a harsh teacher and rewards only come with hard work...he is a planet of karma and lessons after all. If he ONLY brought blessings with no contrast then how would we learn to appreciate healthy and good relationships when we never got to experience unhealthy relationships first?

You will probably meet a lot of karmic relationships during this time, people that push your buttons and make you unhappy so that you can learn how to prioritize self-love and eliminate the people who are not worthy of your time. After the lesson is learned you will be rewarded with a discerning mind, strong boundaries, a willingness to put yourself first, and better and healthier relationships

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posted May 15, 2023 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi ChildofVenus, Saturn is known as the karmic teacher and needs time and effort before you get rewards. I don’t know how far along you are into this transit, but with Saturn transits patience and hard work is involved. I think therapy is a very Saturnian thing, it requires effort and some very uncomfortable realizations before you get real growth and are released from certain burdens. Without doubt this will bring you long term benefits.

It just entered my seventh house in February. I get it's about lessons. But I didn't think it meant that the people that I'm involved with would be having a difficult time. But I knew it meant that I needed to learn lessons in regards to dealing with others. I thought maybe I would meet people and form healthy relationships with them. I don't mean romantic relationships I just mean relationships in general.

So far it hasn’t really been that good. I started chatting with a Capricorn guy online who has a lot of Saturn aspects. But he has a lot of obligations to his disabled family members. Because he’s their caregiver. Another guy that I started talking to is wheelchair bound. The Cancer guy is having a difficult time. So it basically seems like all the people I talk to are having personal issues. There is one other guy who’s been trying to meet me for awhile. But he wants a serious relationship and I don’t want that.

I don’t even care about not being romantically involved with anyone. I just wish things weren’t so heavy. Before Saturn hit my seven house I had a good arrangement with the Cancer guy. We would meet up every two weeks no strings attached. Then all of a sudden things changed when Saturn hit my seventh house. He started having all kinds of problems. I’m just using him as an example of what I’m trying to explain.

I don’t know what I was thinking I just thought I’d meet people and in the process learn how to have healthy relationships. I knew I was going to have a hard time with this transit. Because I’ve never been good in regards to dealing with people on a personal level.

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Saturn is in Pisces. The Pisces-Virgo axis is about victim vs savior, without boundaries vs strict routine, mental vs physical healthcare, etc… Is this something you recognize? When I read your reply, it seems like the theme of Virgo and Pisces plays a role in the situations you encounter.
https://psychologicallyastrology.com/2019/05/06/virgo-and-pisces-the-most-sens itive-axis-part-3/

There seems to be a bit of a Pisces theme in your chart. Your Pisces Venus is almost in the last degree and Jupiter (the old ruler of Pisces) is conjunct your north node. With natal Uranus square Venus, you could have a lot of “hot and cold” situations when it comes to relationships. You might struggle to commit yourself to a long term relationship. Pisces Venus loves the romantic concept of love but finds it difficult to root a relationship in reality. With Venus in the 8th house you can crave a “ride or die” partner and at the same time fear the vulnerability this brings.

At some point Saturn will be conjunct your Venus and this could be a situation where you’re asked to show how much you’re willing to sacrifice for love (or any type of “relationship” not necessarily romantic). Not the ideal of love but the relationship as it really is. This will not be easy but could be an important life lesson.

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posted May 15, 2023 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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… I don’t know what I was thinking I just thought I’d meet people and in the process learn how to have healthy relationships. I knew I was going to have a hard time with this transit. Because I’ve never been good in regards to dealing with people on a personal level.

I get your point. I struggle with connecting to other people as well. My Taurus Venus is in the 8th house opposite Uranus. I also have Chiron in the 7th house and my Saturn conjunct my 7th house ruler. There seem to be karmic issues there. My Virgo Moon doesn’t help either, it’s square my Mercury and sextile my Uranus. I sometimes feel misunderstood and an outsider.

Sometimes you would just like it to be as easy as it looks like with other people. Being understood and liked for who you are. Someone to laugh at your jokes, no awkwardness. Where’s the manual for this?

I wish I had some good tips. All I have is: get a cat. They don’t care about social skills. And embrace your own uniqueness, you don’t have to be like everyone else.

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posted May 15, 2023 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The transit is a 2-year+ process. Being mentored or counseled is often part of it for younger people. It is a chance to mature in how we relate to others.

With Saturn there are no quick rewards. Work and challenges come before the rewards.

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posted May 20, 2023 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The transit is a 2-year+ process. Being mentored or counseled is often part of it for younger people. It is a chance to mature in how we relate to others.

With Saturn there are no quick rewards. Work and challenges come before the rewards.


I know this transit is about learning to relate to other people in a mature way. I've read that during this transit I may have to support a friend (or if I am in a relationship a spouse). In order to keep harmony in the relationship. Because where ever Saturn is transiting it brings responsibilities to that house.

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This transit is a joy killer, I can confirm that I’m also experiencing it since February. Nothing, no dates, not even opportunities, ugh. People around me are ok, I have a few solid friendships and they are all stable… but romantically, nada. What a lesson, great 🫤

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posted May 30, 2023 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This transit is a joy killer, I can confirm that I’m also experiencing it since February. Nothing, no dates, not even opportunities, ugh. People around me are ok, I have a few solid friendships and they are all stable… but romantically, nada. What a lesson, great 🫤

I don't like this transit at all. I've watched videos on youtube about this transit. Where some astrologers have said some people fall in love and get married during this transit.

I do have an opportunity to date but I've been hesitant about meeting up with this guy. Have you been spending time with your friends?

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There are a lot of possible scenarios - marriage being one of them, so I heard. The common thread is “seriousness”.
I am not spending as much time with my friends as I would like. It feels lonely for sure. Upcoming travels might help with that. Dating wise, part of the reason nothing is happening is that I feel all my options are a joke. I have high standards to begin with, but at other times I was willing to fool around. Now, even though anything would be more fun than being alone, something is not letting me losen up. There’s no joy. I think a lot about two men from the past and feel a lot of heaviness in relation to them. Commitment to the right person would bring me joy. From your posts, it seems that even though you’re not looking for a relationship, you are presented with Saturnian energy in other people and are very much concerned with having meaningful connections which is also a Saturnian thing.

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posted May 30, 2023 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted:

You will probably meet a lot of karmic relationships during this time, people that push your buttons and make you unhappy so that you can learn how to prioritize self-love and eliminate the people who are not worthy of your time. After the lesson is learned you will be rewarded with a discerning mind, strong boundaries, a willingness to put yourself first, and better and healthier relationships

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So true - I am at the end of Saturn in my 7th. I signed with two different agents (I'm an actress) in which I worked with over a year. It wasn't easy, they never sent me roles that I was right for, and one nothing at all. They never listening to my suggestions and or took me seriously or gave me the time. I ended both contracts and even one even a new one today that didn't work out. All very difficult - agents are our lifeline for work. However, I have to believe it is for the best. The right agent will be in my future, I just know it.

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posted May 31, 2023 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I thought transit Saturn in my 7th house was supposed to be a good thing? I thought I was going to meet new people and have healthy relationships. I didn't know transit Saturn in the 7th house meant that I was going to be involved in relationships with people who are having a difficult time. I thought this transit was about eliminating relationships that weren't meant for you. Instead it doesn't seem to be the case. The only good thing that has happened so far is that I started therapy.

I don't like this transit at all and I don't see anything positive about it. I can't believe I have to endure this transit for years.


You want to form healthy relationships, and you thought Saturn transit would magically make that happen? Saturn is not Jupiter. Saturn's gifts come with hard work.

It's a good thing you started therapy. In order to form healthy relationships, we have to unearth and recognize the things in us that LOVE or draw unhealthy relationships. And that takes work, inner work. And it takes accountability.

How you are going to experience 7th house transit Saturn will have a lot to do with what kind of aspects T Saturn will make to your natal planets as it strolls through your 7th. Positive contacts as in sextile and trine will make things easier. Hard contacts such as conjunction, square, opposition and quinconxes will make things more challenging.

All in all, it is a good transit. I look back at all my hard difficult Saturn transits and I am grateful for the lessons, and especially grateful for those things Saturn denied me, which I thought at the time I desperately needed...

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posted May 31, 2023 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frida:
There are a lot of possible scenarios - marriage being one of them, so I heard. The common thread is “seriousness”.
I am not spending as much time with my friends as I would like. It feels lonely for sure. Upcoming travels might help with that. Dating wise, part of the reason nothing is happening is that I feel all my options are a joke. I have high standards to begin with, but at other times I was willing to fool around. Now, even though anything would be more fun than being alone, something is not letting me losen up. There’s no joy. I think a lot about two men from the past and feel a lot of heaviness in relation to them. Commitment to the right person would bring me joy. From your posts, it seems that even though you’re not looking for a relationship, you are presented with Saturnian energy in other people and are very much concerned with having meaningful connections which is also a Saturnian thing.

Yeah, I get what you mean I don't feel like putting in the effort if it's just going to end up not being serious. The one guy I've been talking to has been trying to meet up with me for almost a year. And there are times when I feel like I want to give it a chance. But I know that I don't really want anything serious with him. So I feel like what's the point? But I would like to have some fun it's supposed to be a date at the zoo. But then I know afterward he'll just keep asking me to go out with him again.

Right now I feel like I just want to be there for my friends who are in need. I'm ok with that I don't mind putting myself out for the people who I care about. But otherwise, I just don't feel like I have the energy for anything else.

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posted May 31, 2023 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You want to form healthy relationships, and you thought Saturn transit would magically make that happen? Saturn is not Jupiter. Saturn's gifts come with hard work.

It's a good thing you started therapy. In order to form healthy relationships, we have to unearth and recognize the things in us that LOVE or draw unhealthy relationships. And that takes work, inner work. And it takes accountability.

How you are going to experience 7th house transit Saturn will have a lot to do with what kind of aspects T Saturn will make to your natal planets as it strolls through your 7th. Positive contacts as in sextile and trine will make things easier. Hard contacts such as conjunction, square, opposition and quinconxes will make things more challenging.

All in all, it is a good transit. I look back at all my hard difficult Saturn transits and I am grateful for the lessons, and especially grateful for those things Saturn denied me, which I thought at the time I desperately needed...


I didn't think it would magically happen no. But I thought I'd meet people who were serious. Which is something that I've read about this transit. Transit Jupiter in my 7th house didn't make anything great happen either. I had that last year and around that time I went on one date with a guy. And that situation ended up being bad. I've read all these wonderful things about how transit Jupiter was going to be a great and happy time for relationships. This one astrologer even told me I could possibly end up getting pregnant at that time. So when transit Jupiter was in my 7th house last year I was excited about relationships. Because I thought it would be great and that maybe I'd start a relationship. But it wasn't and I don't get why people say it's a great transit.

Currently transit Saturn in making a square to my natal Mars and I have Mars in the 10th house.

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posted May 31, 2023 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I didn't think it would magically happen no. But I thought I'd meet people who were serious. Which is something that I've read about this transit. Transit Jupiter in my 7th house didn't make anything great happen either. I had that last year and around that time I went on one date with a guy. And that situation ended up being bad. I've read all these wonderful things about how transit Jupiter was going to be a great and happy time for relationships. This one astrologer even told me I could possibly end up getting pregnant at that time. So when transit Jupiter was in my 7th house last year I was excited about relationships. Because I thought it would be great and that maybe I'd start a relationship. But it wasn't and I don't get why people say it's a great transit.

Currently transit Saturn in making a square to my natal Mars and I have Mars in the 10th house.


i am sorry to hear the 7th transits of planets like Jupiter and Saturn are not living up to your expectations. That probably means you have a chart with natal planets that will be making challenging aspects to any planet transiting in the 7th... Therefore thwarting somewhat the mission of those transiting planets.

That does not mean your love life is doomed. It just means you will have to deal with more challenges in that area, and when Saturn is transiting there, don't resist the lessons Saturn is trying to teach to those planets...

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posted June 01, 2023 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 01, 2023 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn transiting the 7th house for some people can involve a two-year clearing of friends from your life who aren't contributing or who don't want to grow up. It results from a change in how you are valuing relationships and how you want to approach them.

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posted June 01, 2023 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Saturn transiting the 7th house for some people can involve a two-year clearing of friends from your life who aren't contributing or who don't want to grow up. It results from a change in how you are valuing relationships and how you want to approach them.


I do feel more serious about my current relationships. I was casually seeing this one guy before Saturn entered my 7th house. And he’s going through a lot right now. I have offered my support to him. But right now I don’t really feel like putting in the effort to start any new relationships. Because it usually doesn’t result in anything worth while.

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posted June 01, 2023 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i am sorry to hear the 7th transits of planets like Jupiter and Saturn are not living up to your expectations. That probably means you have a chart with natal planets that will be making challenging aspects to any planet transiting in the 7th... Therefore thwarting somewhat the mission of those transiting planets.

That does not mean your love life is doomed. It just means you will have to deal with more challenges in that area, and when Saturn is transiting there, don't resist the lessons Saturn is trying to teach to those planets...


Yeah, I guess some people just don’t get all the happiness or whatever is supposed to come with these transits. This guy that I know currently has transit Jupiter in his 7th house and last month he assaulted by his friend. I thought Jupiter transiting the 7th house was supposed to be a good time for all kinds of relationships. But again I guess that’s not the case for some people.

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^^^ CHildofVenus, You may be misunderstanding the 7th house or you have a one side view of it.

In addition to being the house of partners and marriage, the 7th house is also the house of open enemies, as it is the house that is directly OPPOSITE the first house of our bodies.

Oppositions are dualistic in nature. They offer partnership and complementarity, they can also offer conflict and enmity. That is why often our lovers/spouses become our enemies. Love turns to hate.

I have not looked at the chart you posted but I will check it out later.

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Childofvenus, is the above your chart or that of your friend? I don't really have the time to analyze your friend's chart... though I am willing to look at your chart.

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I'm not a pro but when it comes to Jupiter and Saturn transits through houses, I'd say it's more about the general vibe they bring in rather than some specific events. Aspects to planets may trigger events. I wonder what else happened to your friend while Jupiter was in his 7th house? There must have been some good things.
E.g. last time Jupiter entered my 7th house, I ended a long term relationship. It was super painful. The whole time Jupiter was in the 7th I was trying to heal and I was single. Not easy, not fun. But the way I see it, Jupiter helped! Jupiter helped me be optimistic and jump the fence / end the relationship. My one on one relationships with my doctors, my employer etc were all smooth and very supportive. I kept getting contacted for job interviews. I felt supported by people on a day to day basis - in small ways and sometimes big ways. That's so important and I attribute it to Jupiter transiting the 7th.

For starting significant romantic relationships, I think that transits of, and aspects to the rulers of the 7th and 5th house are even more important than general transits through the 7th house. I think transits through the 7th are more about our attitudes in regards to one on one relationships.

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Just here to shamelessly express how much this transits sucks. it will get better, right? ChildofVenus, how are things going for you?
Mars and Venus are currently in Leo - for a while, meaning they are in the 12th house. People keep cancelling dinners/drinks last minute, even a planned trip together, dating life is dead… it’s lonely and it sucks, there I hope it gets better when Saturn turns direct again.

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Just here to shamelessly express how much this transits sucks. it will get better, right? ChildofVenus, how are things going for you?
Mars and Venus are currently in Leo - for a while, meaning they are in the 12th house. People keep cancelling dinners/drinks last minute, even a planned trip together, dating life is dead… it’s lonely and it sucks, there I hope it gets better when Saturn turns direct again.


Yes, it definitely does suck but I did go to a friend's wedding which was nice. I got to see some of my friends that I hadn't seen in a while. But as for dating, it's bad lol I do have one guy that wants to go on a date I'm still undecided about that. I haven't been doing much talking on dating apps like I used to. Does transit Venus and Mars in the 12th house indicate no dating?

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