posted April 22, 2024 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
It gets me that Leo gets no domicile other than the sun. If you ask me, Mars should have been domiciled in Leo but it doesn't make sense to have two fire signs domicile Mars so they gave Scorpio a freebie. Then again, it made no sense to give Scorpio any planets that it can be domicile in. So Mars made the most sense because it was the only planet that came closest to Scorpio being domiciled.

It is not that Scorpio is one of the best signs for Mars, it is just that none of the other planets made sense for Scorpio so Mars came closest to doing so.

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posted April 22, 2024 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
I have often thought the same thing about Mars in Scorpio. Like it was just an awkward placeholder in lieu of anything else to put there. I get irked when I hear people make the association because I don’t think it really fits. Scorpio aggression comes out of sensitivity and fear, and Mars is about bravery.

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posted April 22, 2024 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I used to worry all the time, about being fair, and I still do. I can't believe I used to feel bad about setting boundaries with people, like my brother-in-law. I felt bad for standing up for myself.

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posted April 22, 2024 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:

I know many good placed mars and non of them are that successful surprisingly.
I often noticed people with good placed mars can go after what they care about, but it’s often not about rs with people and not about many things. And they often act from fear.
And the other placements and areas can suffer because of overly good mars. And they can not go after what they want because they can expect too much. And prefer protect themselves from failure rather than go after.

For example, Scorpio Mars can do everything to protect their crappy job (manipulate, ass kissing, work hard) probably from fear where everybody manipulate him also. And it did not worth it at all. Lack of ability to see the bigger picture didn’t let him to see there was not much to fight for and actually not much competition. And he could do much better at many other places. And he probably wouldn’t advance there anytime soon because of his behavior.

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posted April 22, 2024 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
I’m not sure if I’m following you correctly, but I know people sometimes say Mars is a malefic so it doesn’t technically do “good” if that’s what you mean? Maybe so

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posted April 22, 2024 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
I have often thought the same thing about Mars in Scorpio. Like it was just an awkward placeholder in lieu of anything else to put there. I get irked when I hear people make the association because I don’t think it really fits. Scorpio aggression comes out of sensitivity and fear, and Mars is about bravery.

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We have to challenge Ancient Astrology but something I would say is this, what if the Mars placement and its importance matters based on era? Like in this age of transparency where secrets are not secrets for long, I would think a Scorpio Mars is at a huge disadvantage. If I had to pick a good planet for Scorpio to rule, I would actually go for Venus.

It is a sign associated with the sexual organs so I would say that given the Scorpio obsession with sex, let it actually rule Venus. Venus should not be in a bad place with Scorpio, it should be in a good place with it. However, people back then were prudes so they saw it as not making sense.

Due to intuition, you could have domiciled Mercury in Scorpio as well.

posted April 22, 2024 04:30 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by peregrine:
[b] I have often thought the same thing about Mars in Scorpio. Like it was just an awkward placeholder in lieu of anything else to put there. I get irked when I hear people make the association because I don’t think it really fits. Scorpio aggression comes out of sensitivity and fear, and Mars is about bravery.

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posted April 22, 2024 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
I think exaltation probably only “counts” for something if the rest of the chart isn’t too toxic. But then again, anyone can rise above their chart in theory. Best case scenario, if the whole chart was exalted and nothing afflicted then I think it might look like this:

Sun in Aries - fearless truthfulness on the outside
Moon in Taurus - profound peace on the inside
Mercury in Virgo - hyper awareness of reality
Venus in Pisces - always open to divinity of love
Mars in Capricorn - stays the course, straight and narrow
Jupiter in Cancer - expands consciousness via spreading love (Bhakti!)
Saturn in Libra - realism and idealism are balanced

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Mercury in Virgo can be neurotic! And Moon in Taurus can be plodding! Exalted placements are great but they're not the end-all and be-all of astrology!

posted April 22, 2024 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I love Aries overall as people, met plenty of great ones. However, I think the thing is that Leos are a more "careful" version of Aries. In a way, it annoys me. An Aries will be blindly faithful to you but Leos will pick the bigger picture, their goals, and themselves over you.

The thing is, Aries acts impulsively so it is like putting out the brainstorm of a project to the public. Leos are the final copy but obviously, less authentic than Aries.

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I mean, Leo is the 'The King'! And once you're in the public eye, as a king you have to play the social game a bit! Aries is too independent and will likely like the private sector more!

posted April 22, 2024 07:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Mercury in Virgo can be neurotic! And Moon in Taurus can be plodding! Exalted placements are great but they're not the end-all and be-all of astrology!

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posted April 22, 2024 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
We have to challenge Ancient Astrology but something I would say is this, what if the Mars placement and its importance matters based on era? Like in this age of transparency where secrets are not secrets for long, I would think a Scorpio Mars is at a huge disadvantage. If I had to pick a good planet for Scorpio to rule, I would actually go for Venus.

It is a sign associated with the sexual organs so I would say that given the Scorpio obsession with sex, let it actually rule Venus. Venus should not be in a bad place with Scorpio, it should be in a good place with it. However, people back then were prudes so they saw it as not making sense.

Due to intuition, you could have domiciled Mercury in Scorpio as well.

IMO, if they wanted to balance out the masculine fire energy of Aries with a more feminine Mars, they could have picked an earth sign like Virgo. It is exalted in Mercury but there is no planet it is domiciled in.

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posted April 22, 2024 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I mean, Leo is the 'The King'! And once you're in the public eye, as a king you have to play the social game a bit! Aries is too independent and will likely like the private sector more!

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I will say that if becoming king is the ultimate end-goal of life, or if being king by definition means that you do the most good in the world, and if Leo is the king, then yes, the sun should be exalted in Leo. Whether these things are true would involve a lengthy philosophical debate that I personally don’t have the energy for rn lol.

posted April 23, 2024 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
I will say that if becoming king is the ultimate end-goal of life, or if being king by definition means that you do the most good in the world, and if Leo is the king, then yes, the sun should be exalted in Leo. Whether these things are true would involve a lengthy philosophical debate that I personally don’t have the energy for rn lol.

How about this though… what if it’s the Sun that’s the king and Leo is his kingdom, and he’s gotta put on airs while he’s there, but when he’s in Aries he gets to be his true kingly Self? Eh? 🤔

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That last paragraph you wrote; It's never made clear or I haven't read enough astrology books yet!

What do they precisely mean by 'exaltation'? Is the exaltation, or dignity, beneficial to the planet? The person? Or the setting (like how you said that the Sun is the kingdom)?

posted April 23, 2024 02:09 AM            

Sun ascends above the celestial equator heading north at vernal equinox.

posted April 23, 2024 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
That last paragraph you wrote; It's never made clear or I haven't read enough astrology books yet!

What do they precisely mean by 'exaltation'? Is the exaltation, or dignity, beneficial to the planet? The person? Or the setting (like how you said that the Sun is the kingdom)?

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It was just a metaphor. Here’s my take on it. The exaltation benefits the planet/placement. This really only makes a beneficial difference in the personality if the “effect” is strong enough to overcome any other b.s. factors in the rest of the chart. The overarching idea, according to things I have read that make the most sense to me, is that an exalted planet has the potential for the “highest good” or is that planet’s “highest manifestation”.

This obviously has an effect on the environment of the person, not necessarily in the greater whole of society, though of course it could be. Everything has a ripple effect anyway. Of course “highest good” is highly subjective. In any case, I think for this to be true a person must be whole and functioning from a place of authenticity.

posted April 23, 2024 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by GoldenSword:
Sun exaltation in aries is pure astronomy and physics, it does not require any tl;dr's 🤣🤣🤣

Sun ascends above the celestial equator heading north at vernal equinox.

Fire(Sun☀️ ) 🔥🔺️↑ points upward.

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If exaltation doesn’t mean anything other than a physical position then it shouldn’t be included in astrology. Just astronomy.

posted April 23, 2024 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I think Mars heavy people are likely to make too many enemies along the way and lack that calibration needed to succeed. You need drive but you also need aim and strategy. Mars is not strategy, it is action. If you just act and take the "shoot first ask questions later" approach, you are going to make way too many mistakes along the way.

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posted April 23, 2024 12:27 PM            

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The sun is the ego. The ego is the foundation for the self. Aries sun has their foundation in the proper place. Libra sun ego is motivated by a need for the approval of others. Leo sun ego is motivated by a need to substantiate their belief that they are “the best.” The Aries sun is moved purely by animal passion. The direction of that passion is dictated by the rest of the chart. But the Aries sun in itself doesn’t have fruitless ego needs or insecurities that get in the way of its motives. It is self validating. It just goes and doesn’t look back.

Edit to add: “Secure your own mask first, and then assist the child…”

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BINGO!

posted April 23, 2024 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
The Go-getter, the confidence, and the aggression, without malice intent most of the time.

In my opinion, if the Aries is all good (can tame their quick reaction and channel their energy in a good thing), they are the perfect example of LEADER who inspire confidence in people and move them to action. For the progress of human civilization, the sun in Aries is exalted.

They don't actually really think about themselves all the time which Leo does, but what actually matter for them is "go! go! go! go!". They always just pass through life like no body else who wants to take a nap for awhile or do nothing for awhile or enjoying themselve in appearance, luxurious thing for awhile or says "wait, let's take it sloooww for a while". They just want to keep moving even when they are in anger or sad.

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Well said. 👍

I don't mind resting & relaxing. But what I can't deal with is complacency, lack of growth or boredom. F*ck No! If you're not Moving Forward, you're wasting your life away, is how I see it. And I'm here to LIVE. 🔥🔥

Some people are intimidated by Aries Confidence. Which is very telling about THEM. Why? Because we ultimately want you to be confident in & love yourself, too! 💪 So you being threatened by us, is actually very silly. We mean no harm.

posted April 23, 2024 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:

Then take Mars in Capricorn. The true warrior that can overcome adversity and keep going. While a Scorpio Mars is incapable of handling conflict or overcoming adversity, a Capricorn Mars can do it to a great extent.

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Thank you for the love! 🙌

*takes a bow w/ Capricorn Mars Crew*

posted April 23, 2024 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by GoldenSword:
Who ever brings the northern southern hemisphere of earth to astrology discussion ask her/him [b]Why the North Node is aspiration in astrology not the south node?[/B]

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I don’t know the answer to this, but if the answer in some way implies that we should all *aspire* to Aries suns higher qualities, I would actually agree with that. Maybe it doesn’t, just sounded like it might be heading that direction.

posted April 23, 2024 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
I don’t know the answer to this, but if the answer in some way implies that we should all *aspire* to Aries suns higher qualities, I would actually agree with that. Maybe it doesn’t, just sounded like it might be heading that direction.

Edit to add and that’s a VERY interesting connection, if it’s there…

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I didn't mean that. Each individual should pursue THEIR Own NN in the natal chart not the SN so the ascending node is aspiration.
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But you brought another idea to me, universally as humans.. Gemini north node may be exalted for us or maybe Aquarius these should be aspiration universally other than the NN in individual chart.